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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Bill Meltzer
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D pairs rotated at practice today. Fwds:

Tippett-Frost-Konecny
Farabee-Laughton-Brink
Foerster-Poehling-Hathaway
Deslauriers-Cates-Lycksell
Gurianov-Couturier-Atkinson

PP1: York, Farabee, Tippett, Frost, Konecny
PP2: Zamula, Foerster, Lycksell, Laughton, B

- wcorvette

it would be awesome to bench the captain at this stage. Wonder how the "room" would react?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
So basically the Flyers are just a dumping ground so the AV’s can clear cap space to load up for a Cup run
- PLindbergh31

Yea, Brière will get his name engraved in the Stanley Cup if AVS win.
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

Mar 18 @ 3:35 PM ET
So basically the Flyers are just a dumping ground so the AV’s can clear cap space to load up for a Cup run
- PLindbergh31



That was the cost of getting the first rd pick. They had to take on cap. Not hard to see.
If Walker was getting you a first just as is, the flyers would have done it w/o taking RyJo back.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
They make a big deal about naming Couturier captain in February, and in March the coach is going to healthy scratch him.

What a dysfunctional organization.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
They make a big deal about naming Couturier captain in February, and in March the coach is going to healthy scratch him.

What a dysfunctional organization.

- Feanor


It’s possible that Couturier is injured or run down by all the ice time he got earlier after being away for nearly 2 years. I know a lot of people made the observation earlier in the year that the Flyers were overplaying him.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 18 @ 4:09 PM ET
It’s possible that Couturier is injured or run down by all the ice time he got earlier after being away for nearly 2 years. I know a lot of people made the observation earlier in the year that the Flyers were overplaying him.
- mikeyo27

I don't believe so. I just don't think he is the same player he was two plus years ago most likely due to the nature of the injury, and the game is just faster now than ever. He is averaging 18 minutes a game this season, and in the past has routinely averaged over 20 minutes a game. Just another narrative to try to throw the coach under the bus IMO.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
It’s possible that Couturier is injured or run down by all the ice time he got earlier after being away for nearly 2 years. I know a lot of people made the observation earlier in the year that the Flyers were overplaying him.
- mikeyo27

6 minutes of ex selke > 6 minutes of ND
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
I don't believe so. I just don't think he is the same player he was two plus years ago most likely due to the nature of the injury, and the game is just faster now than ever. He is averaging 18 minutes a game this season, and in the past has routinely averaged over 20 minutes a game. Just another narrative to try to throw the coach under the bus IMO.
- jd250

coach is a clown for playing him as much as he did early. that's the cost to want to win every game

off double back surgery and out 2 years they should have been very cautious. you now play the long game as he is here for what another 6 years? nah run him into the ground

They had no plan on his minutes or games played. pure stupidity.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
coach is a clown for playing him as much as he did early. that's the cost to want to win every game

off double back surgery and out 2 years they should have been very cautious. you now play the long game as he is here for what another 6 years? nah run him into the ground

They had no plan on his minutes or games played. pure stupidity.

- hello it's me 2050

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
I don't believe so. I just don't think he is the same player he was two plus years ago most likely due to the nature of the injury, and the game is just faster now than ever. He is averaging 18 minutes a game this season, and in the past has routinely averaged over 20 minutes a game. Just another narrative to try to throw the coach under the bus IMO.
- jd250



The speed of the game is not an issue. The issue is that there is no doubt, even not being 100% that Couturier is one of the top 4 centers on the team. If it's a physical issue fine. If not then the coach is just being a jackass.

Did you look at the replay yet?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
It’s possible that Couturier is injured or run down by all the ice time he got earlier after being away for nearly 2 years. I know a lot of people made the observation earlier in the year that the Flyers were overplaying him.
- mikeyo27


o yea, lets say this for the folks with their heads stuck in Torts zipper, there is ZERO chance that all the ice time coming back after 2 years, has kept him fresh for the home stretch.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 18 @ 5:42 PM ET
I really wish that the entire front office and coaching staff of the Flyers would be fired so that some of the geniuses on here could take over!!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 18 @ 5:45 PM ET
I really wish that the entire front office and coaching staff of the Flyers would be fired so that some of the geniuses on here could take over!!
- Phillywhiteout
Coots is obviously playing through some sort of injury. If he's really this worn down and slow that remaining 6 years of that contract are gonna be a hoot! He gave the Bruins that 5th goal the other night. Where the puck was Sanheim on that 4th goal?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 5:54 PM ET
Coots is obviously playing through some sort of injury. If he's really this worn down and slow that remaining 6 years of that contract are gonna be a hoot! He gave the Bruins that 5th goal the other night. Where the puck was Sanheim on that 4th goal?
- Phillywhiteout


Sanheim played it very poorly as he was up in no mans land. The Forwards on the back check just stood and watched. (Deslauriers and Atkinson). The Flyers attention to detail in the defensive zone has been pretty bad lately.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
I really wish that the entire front office and coaching staff of the Flyers would be fired so that some of the geniuses on here could take over!!
- Phillywhiteout


It always puzzles me why statement like that are made.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
And if the queen had balls, she'd be the king...........
- Letterkenney


Sometimes the queen does have balls.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 18 @ 6:06 PM ET
Sanheim played it very poorly as he was up in no mans land. The Forwards on the back check just stood and watched. (Deslauriers and Atkinson). The Flyers attention to detail in the defensive zone has been pretty bad lately.
- MJL
Pretty bad is being kind. This looks like years past and now their PK is leaving all kinds of passing lanes open.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 18 @ 6:08 PM ET
It always puzzles me why statement like that are made.
- MJL
I just think some of the criticism on here goes over the top. That's all.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Mar 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
Wonder if Torts was even on board with naming Couturier captain. Didn’t he start dropping down in the lineup pretty much immediately after being named captain
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 7:02 PM ET
I just think some of the criticism on here goes over the top. That's all.
- Phillywhiteout


You have the right to that opinion. A reply like that is just simply silly. That's all.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 18 @ 7:05 PM ET
I do wonder if Torts does scratch Coots as captain and the bottom continues to fall out if he is in trouble in the summer. I know the easy answer is "no". Here's where I think it gets murkey. HC usually has control over his staff. Rocky Thompson running the PP has been awful. He is a Torts guy, no guarantee he goes. Does he continue to insert Staal in the top 6, when it looks like the speed of the game is too fast for him down the stretch? Jonesy and Berube are supposedly really good friends. Berube is going to get another HC job in the near future. If Coots gets scratched and is not injury related, I think Torts is not reading the room. Pretty sure the alternate captain who was pretty bad earlier in the season did not get scratched. Going to be an interesting summer.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 18 @ 7:33 PM ET
I do wonder if Torts does scratch Coots as captain and the bottom continues to fall out if he is in trouble in the summer. I know the easy answer is "no". Here's where I think it gets murkey. HC usually has control over his staff. Rocky Thompson running the PP has been awful. He is a Torts guy, no guarantee he goes. Does he continue to insert Staal in the top 6, when it looks like the speed of the game is too fast for him down the stretch? Jonesy and Berube are supposedly really good friends. Berube is going to get another HC job in the near future. If Coots gets scratched and is not injury related, I think Torts is not reading the room. Pretty sure the alternate captain who was pretty bad earlier in the season did not get scratched. Going to be an interesting summer.
- Trox88
Where are folks coming up with this stuff? Torts IS NOT going to healthy scratch Coots! He is battling through some type of nagging injury or fatigue. Berube could be the next HC though and then Torts would move upstairs. Just speculation of course.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 18 @ 7:37 PM ET
I think it's pretty fair to say that if a coach has missed the playoffs or lost in the 1st-round in 13 of the past 16 seasons... it might be a stretch to categorize the guy as a "winner" today.

And yes, he's technically won before but that was literally in a totally different era of on-ice and off-ice rules. And yes he's got a lot of career wins but his actual winning % is not high (he's down around Mike Yeo, John Stevens level).

- Tomahawk



I cant stand Jorts, but I wont fault him for BOB turning into a sieve in the playoffs after Venzia winning campaigns. His Cbls teams lived and died by BOB
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
Where are folks coming up with this stuff? Torts IS NOT going to healthy scratch Coots! He is battling through some type of nagging injury or fatigue. Berube could be the next HC though and then Torts would move upstairs. Just speculation of course.
- Phillywhiteout


Where are people coming up with this stuff? Simple observation as well as a some reporting of the practice lines. Couturier is no doubt not 100% but he's been playing and there are zero reports that he is not healthy enough to play. If he's not in the lineup for the next game. It's basically a healthy scratch. Tortorella is pissed at him for the turnover. It fits a pattern. Demote a player down in lines, cut ice time and then scratch a player.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Mar 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
I don't believe so. I just don't think he is the same player he was two plus years ago most likely due to the nature of the injury, and the game is just faster now than ever. He is averaging 18 minutes a game this season, and in the past has routinely averaged over 20 minutes a game. Just another narrative to try to throw the coach under the bus IMO.
- jd250

Dr JD again
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