On Bertuzzi when the league made him the poster boy for penalties pushing off it was pathetic. My 2 bits only. On JT he earns what he gets but is does go too far at times when his play should be the focus. On that he has been great & a very good reason we are where we are with others playing great & RT & staff & PA doing a masterful job.
- Nighthawk

No need to explain it to me. I moved on and only bring it up when the tilted comparisons start flowing. People keep rewriting this nonsense to magnify pretty much nothing.

Considering that Petey is nearly 6 years younger, if there's envy, then that's on JTM seeing as he's got nowhere to go but down and Petey still could get better. It's not JTM's fault that he was a late bloomer, but someone who will be on the downside of 30 at the end of their contract will NOT be making as much as a player who's just entering the prime years of their career.
- DariusKnight

This is just common sense. Well said.

Thx.

Huge character win for the guys on Saturday. Hopefully goes a long way to building back the winning ways. What are thoughts on Guentzel as another addition? Lindholm might not turn out to be the best fit but time will tell.

JT is even outscoring EP in NHL24 , the first Canucks player to hit 99 overall
- onesmallleap

How f*cking old are you? 14?

If Miller has a clue, hell understand where he was at 25. He wasn't projecting anything like Petey not even close... he was struggling to get ice time in the top 6, hadn't put up big numbers as a C at all, had a career high 56 points and was averaging less than 15 min a night. He also had been traded already with controversy about being a cancer.

I really hope Miller isn't as petty as the fans are over salaries. If he is, then that is a selfishness the team doesn't need(and I don't think it's an issue). You can't have a vet pissed off about someone getting more than you because your game finally showed up in your 30's.
- boonerbuck

You can have a vet push a younger player to be his very best & make winning a cup the ultimate goal. Not saying Petey isn’t driven for that but he will be expected to be front & centre like any other player in the league with a huge contract. GM’s whether smart or stupid win cups or get fired if they have a poorly spent cap that hamstrings a team. On this JR & PA have navigated the mess they inherited & here we are once again enjoying another juggernaut of a team.

GCG

I really hope Petterson isn't as pouty as his fans are over salaries. If he is, then that is a selfishness the team doesn't need(and I am not sure it's an issue). You can't have a player pissed off about someone getting more than you because that player brings more to the game, than you do.

WTF??? I'm countering the body language argument with an example. How do you do this so often. You are perpetually barking up the wrong trees.

- boonerbuck

Kibitzers geez 🤪

WTF??? I'm countering the body language argument with an example. How do you do this so often. You are perpetually barking up the wrong trees.

- boonerbuck

I will say one thing about projecting players talent. Gaudreau Laine Eriksson PDL. Projections sometimes are mistakes.
- VANTEL

Corrected by firing GM’s 😂

Thx.

Huge character win for the guys on Saturday. Hopefully goes a long way to building back the winning ways. What are thoughts on Guentzel as another addition? Lindholm might not turn out to be the best fit but time will tell.
- ScotlandVonRickens

Guentzel be a nice add but if a bidding war idk. Lindholm would have to be flipped for starters.

One good thing about pulling the trigger getting Lindholm is lots of runway & gives PA more options before the March TDL

I really hope Petterson isn't as pouty as his fans are over salaries. If he is, then that is a selfishness the team doesn't need(and I am not sure it's an issue). You can't have a player pissed off about someone getting more than you because that player brings more to the game, than you do.
- Reubenkincade

When that does in fact happen we will revisit this. They are one goal apart and JTM has more points.

I will say it again, this last part of the schedule is no picnic and teams will be playing tighter hockey and scoring will be down. Penciling anyone in at this point to reach 100 points is cray IMO. Canucks came out of the gate scoring above their weight class but I am not positive it will be like that when the game tightens up.

Corrected by firing GM’s 😂
- Nighthawk

It corrected nothing. The teams still have the bad contracts.

I know all this but knowing JTM I have to think he is sitting in the room thinking to himself "Look at the little fu
- VANTEL[/b]cken puke making all that money. Like the music video Money For Nothing by Dire Straits.

Why? Points are close, goals are the same, atoi are almost identical with the edge going to Petey, Miller only has a few more PP points... Miller is much better at faceoffs but Petey will improve being 6 years younger. Petey has 3 more gwg. More 5v5 points last I saw...

Miller makes more than Petey... so if he's sitting there stewing over Petey making less than him when everything is so close, then Miller is a cancer(which I don't buy).

Wow... and you are projecting Petey's contract as "money for nothing"?


edit: Dont know why it's all bold. Only bolded in your quote.

When that does in fact happen we will revisit this. They are one goal apart and JTM has more points.

I will say it again, this last part of the schedule is no picnic and teams will be playing tighter hockey and scoring will be down. Penciling anyone in at this point to reach 100 points is cray IMO. Canucks came out of the gate scoring above their weight class but I am not positive it will be like that when the game tightens up.
- VANTEL

I am just having fun with Booner, as that was part of his previous comment, with the names changed as well as a few words.

So early season ppl had Petey in the MVP running. Still the case or who leads now?

Kucherov & MacKinnon & then there is McD back in the convo. I’ve JT in the mix. Hughes leads the Norris still. Helly the Vezina by a clear margin. Selke is up for grabs.

Why? Points are close, goals are the same, atoi are almost identical with the edge going to Petey, Miller only has a few more PP points... Miller is much better at faceoffs but Petey will improve being 6 years younger. Petey has 3 more gwg. More 5v5 points last I saw...

Miller makes more than Petey... so if he's sitting there stewing over Petey making less than him when everything is so close, then Miller is a cancer(which I don't buy).

Wow... and you are projecting Petey's contract as "money for nothing"?


edit: Dont know why it's all bold. Only bolded in your quote.
- boonerbuck

Nah having a little fun. I can see Miller being a grumpy old fuck next year after the contract.

I am just having fun with Booner, as that was part of his previous comment, with the names changed as well as a few words.
- Reubenkincade

The joke doesnt fit though. It's like a knock knock joke that opens up with who's there...

How f*cking old are you? 14?
- boonerbuck

Wow ! Your as protective/ sensitive about EP as Nucker with Kesler , lol

I am just having fun with Booner, as that was part of his previous comment, with the names changed as well as a few words.
- Reubenkincade

I was pretty sure you posted with sarcasm but was not 100%. I was wondering WTF

/Cam Robinson/

I have no idea if Elias Pettersson wants to sign in VAN or move on

What I do know is that history tells us there's very little chance of winning a deal where you move the best player out

So basically, the Canucks better win the Cup this year or sign EP. Or both. Or cry forever

Ruby's got that one down pat.

Wow ! Your as protective/ sensitive about EP as Nucker with Kesler , lol
- onesmallleap

Posters and bobbleheads are in the mail.

Nah having a little fun. I can see Miller being a grump old fuck next year after the contract.
- VANTEL

Well they should trade him if you are right. A 32 year who only reached the status he gets credit for late in his career has no business being a douche to the young players who reached that level at 24 over money.... money he agreed to.

I don't think he's that maggoty though.

When that does in fact happen we will revisit this. They are one goal apart and JTM has more points.

I will say it again, this last part of the schedule is no picnic and teams will be playing tighter hockey and scoring will be down. Penciling anyone in at this point to reach 100 points is cray IMO. Canucks came out of the gate scoring above their weight class but I am not positive it will be like that when the game tightens up.
- VANTEL

Add in the despised +/-….

3rd JT +28 gets the tougher match ups
7th Petey +14 needs top 6 wingers

1st Hronek +34
2nd Hughes +32

It corrected nothing. The teams still have the bad contracts.
- VANTEL

You know what I mean lol

Wow ! Your as protective/ sensitive about EP as Nucker with Kesler , lol
- onesmallleap

You lie like a child, rationalize like a child, and talk like a child.