Quinn - games played have value. It's cool that he has those stats....he isn't healthy to play to score those points.

Peterka - Weed, this isn't the first prospect to come in hot only to fade into oblivion as their career continues in Buffalo.

UPL - if you already forgot last half of the previous season...along with a summer of being sold on having a phenom in the system ready to take on #1 role, then I'll take what you're smoking:


- washedup20

Cozens scored 30 goals last year. Now there are calls to trade him, and everyone loves Peterka. There are zero untouchables on this team.

Out of curiosity Washy, what's the bigger plague to the franchise right now:

Busting draft picks we can't develop

OR

Coaching Strategy/Acquisitions to aid these young players
- QuinnFan

The bolded

Quinn - games played have value. It's cool that he has those stats....he isn't healthy to play to score those points.

Peterka - Weed, this isn't the first prospect to come in hot only to fade into oblivion as their career continues in Buffalo.

UPL - if you already forgot last half of the previous season...along with a summer of being sold on having a phenom in the system ready to take on #1 role, then I'll take what you're smoking:


- washedup20

You said his development stagnated. He got better while being hurt. Statement false.

You're predicting he'll fade into oblivion. Cause some guy not named JJ Peterka did.

Plans change. Clearly.

The bolded
- washedup20

This is correct. We don’t even really know what we have because the poop GM can’t put a proper team together, and the poop coach is clearly out of his league.

if we had no coaches behind the bench and the players just did their thing

I bet we would be 10 points better in the standings

Cozens scored 30 goals last year. Now there are calls to trade him, and everyone loves Peterka. There are zero untouchables on this team.

- SoCalPucks

1 down year doesn't define players just like one good year doesn't define a player.

There is massive failure, organizationally...and its 1,000,000,000,000,000% on the front office.

I don't think any player has even come close to reaching their (trigger word) potential, you have two #1 overall dmen who make Kakko and Laff look like better picks.

Rosen - unknown still
Savoie - unknown still
Ostlund - unknown still
Kulich - unknown still

Benson - middle 6 average player...at best for right now
Quinn - band-aid
JJ - having a decent year - what is his role, projection?

R Johnson - mismanaged this season, he hasn't hurt them when he played too much. I don't see a development path for him

Power - Per the Athletic:

Power hasn’t taken the step forward the Sabres were hoping for when they signed him to a seven-year extension worth $8.35 million per season in October. By most advanced metrics, Power is performing at a similar level to what he did as a 20-year-old rookie. The consistency hasn’t been there, particularly when it comes to defending in front of his own net. He still needs to add strength, both as a defender and with his shot. He doesn’t seem as decisive, either. His self-assessment was pretty simple coming out of the break.

“Normally when my gap is good I’m playing good,” Power said. “That’s a big one. And then there’s some little things. Just defending harder and moving my feet a little more. It’s all nothing crazy or nothing mind-blowing. It’s all little things that you have to continue to work at and improve on.”

Levi - completely mismanaged.


That's just the current group.

Under Adams:

Skinner
Tage
Cozens
Mitts
Krebs
Tuch

Sameulsson
Joker

UPL

have all stagnated their development

Adams failures list is too long so only this year, his failures include:

Girgs
Okposo
Olofsson
Greenway
Robinson
Clifton
E Johnson
Comrie

It's a total mess, what is your estimation of how long it will take to fix?
- washedup20

Quite the Blog, lol.

I agree with several points made, the one that I cannot subscribe to is the constant bashing of Draft Prospects...sure, when they fair, it is appropriate to bash, but the level of bashing should reflect the value of the pick..i.e. a 1-OA bashing is different than a 4th rounder. That's one point.

The more significant point is the expected "arrival" of Prospects to the NHL. Here again, different expectations for different Prospects according to their selection position. I would guess that the vast majority of picks take 2 - 4 years after their draft selection to "arrive" in the NHL.
The higher the selection, we should reasonably expect the arrival to occur earlier...vs longer for lower selections.
Another c couple of nuances to differentiate expected arrival timelines are: North American versus European prospects where European news time to adjust to the, smaller ice and faster, heavier game in NA, and the physical attributes of the individual prospect.

You constant critique ignors each if these.

side note, let beane run the sabres draft

at least he gets a 7th round pick this year and a 6th the following year for trading a 6th round pick

1 down year doesn't define players just like one good year doesn't define a player.
- DirtyDan

does 13 down years define an owner?
does 4 down years define a gm?
does 3 down years define a coach?

do we label samuelsson, savoie and quinn as injury prone or is it puck unluck?

do we label samuelsson, savoie and quinn as injury prone or is it puck unluck?
- homiedclown

It depends on where the injury is and what rink they got it in.

These details matter so we can justify the long development plan for them to join the Sabres as ineffective middle 6 perimeter players.

Quite the Blog, lol.

I agree with several points made, the one that I cannot subscribe to is the constant bashing of Draft Prospects...sure, when they fair, it is appropriate to bash, but the level of bashing should reflect the value of the pick..i.e. a 1-OA bashing is different than a 4th rounder. That's one point.

The more significant point is the expected "arrival" of Prospects to the NHL. Here again, different expectations for different Prospects according to their selection position. I would guess that the vast majority of picks take 2 - 4 years after their draft selection to "arrive" in the NHL.
The higher the selection, we should reasonably expect the arrival to occur earlier...vs longer for lower selections.
Another c couple of nuances to differentiate expected arrival timelines are: North American versus European prospects where European news time to adjust to the, smaller ice and faster, heavier game in NA, and the physical attributes of the individual prospect.

You constant critique ignors each if these.
- IonSabres

For the bolded, all of these are 1st round picks. They are all small, perimeter players who require substantial line support to reach their potential.

For the 2nd half of your post, that's mismanagement by the organization setting these players up for failure, which has happened to every player who played in Buffalo, only to leave and thrive.

None of the drafted players will ever be as good as Eichel...and Eichel couldn't even break through here.

Out of curiosity Washy, what's the bigger plague to the franchise right now:

Busting draft picks we can't develop

OR

Coaching Strategy/Acquisitions to aid these young players
- QuinnFan

Ownership
management
coaching
fans
Girgensons

You said his development stagnated. He got better while being hurt. Statement false.

You're predicting he'll fade into oblivion. Cause some guy not named JJ Peterka did.

Plans change. Clearly.
- DirtyDan

Adams doesn't agree with this statement. Being forced into something, isn't a plan.

Adams doesn't agree with this statement. Being forced into something, isn't a plan.
- washedup20

Doesn't someone always force a plan to be changed?

Whether it be an emerging player or one that isnt doing as good as once thought. Thats the business

Quite the Blog, lol.

I agree with several points made, the one that I cannot subscribe to is the constant bashing of Draft Prospects...sure, when they fair, it is appropriate to bash, but the level of bashing should reflect the value of the pick..i.e. a 1-OA bashing is different than a 4th rounder. That's one point.

The more significant point is the expected "arrival" of Prospects to the NHL. Here again, different expectations for different Prospects according to their selection position. I would guess that the vast majority of picks take 2 - 4 years after their draft selection to "arrive" in the NHL.
The higher the selection, we should reasonably expect the arrival to occur earlier...vs longer for lower selections.
Another c couple of nuances to differentiate expected arrival timelines are: North American versus European prospects where European news time to adjust to the, smaller ice and faster, heavier game in NA, and the physical attributes of the individual prospect.

You constant critique ignors each if these.
- IonSabres

Pretty Spot on! I am at 3yrs especially the higher the pick. But it also shows that you Can't build a Team just from Draft picks, it just isn't reasonable with the Time it takes most of these kids to Develop. Sabres didn't start with a Old Team and they have a lot of good Prospects and not many spots. Especially at Forward.

do we label samuelsson, savoie and quinn as injury prone or is it puck unluck?
- homiedclown

1 of these guys is not like the others.

Doesn't someone always force a plan to be changed?

Whether it be an emerging player or one that isnt doing as good as once thought. Thats the business

- DirtyDan

No

Adams hasn't budged on his plan going on 14 months now, so you're ignoring reality with this post.

The bolded
- washedup20

Agreed. Until this is fixed, we may not know how well development is going. There's definitely room for improvement either way though, so I get where you're coming from.

Ownership
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coaching
fans
Girgensons



- jochfr

The Girgensons got me. Well played guy. Well played.

No

Adams hasn't budged on his plan going on 14 months now, so you're ignoring reality with this post.
- washedup20

We're talking about the netminder not the team plan bub.

Pretty Spot on! I am at 3yrs especially the higher the pick. But it also shows that you Can't build a Team just from Draft picks, it just isn't reasonable with the Time it takes most of these kids to Develop. Sabres didn't start with a Old Team and they have a lot of good Prospects and not many spots. Especially at Forward.
- Buff36

The Sabres have potential in the system...that's it. Fans are hoping that translates to helping the Sabres win. Potential has been in abundance for 13 years now though...with nothing but hope still.

Ownership
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coaching
fans
Girgensons



- jochfr

It will come for you! Girgensons is God here.

We're talking about the netminder not the team plan bub.





- DirtyDan

The plan as far back as February last season was to give the net to Levi. They started this season giving him the first 4 games. Then went to Comrie...only then to go to UPL.