https://thehockeywriters.com/trades-sabres-gm-kevyn-adams-improve-team/
Interesting!
- Buff36

Konecny trade would be a massive overpay on Buffalo’s behalf. I don’t even think I would trade Casey straight up for Konecny. Boone Jenner- easy pass on that, he is being paid way too much for my liking.
I would pursue Andersson and would not argue with the proposed trade.. except I will not include Strbak. I think he can develop into a player we will want and need in 3-4 years.
That Konecny trade is essentially 3 firsts to get him. I love the way he plays, he would bring much needed grit and passion… but not at that price. Ostlund and a first would be acceptable

Konecny has scored 20 goals 3 times, 30 goals once and is on his way to another 30 goal season. Mitts highest scoring season is 15....bro it's not close.

Mitts being the best player on this crappy team means nothing. It's a massive upgrade on the scoresheet and in personality/intangibles the Sabres need.

You have seen the value of 5 1st round picks these past 2 seasons, it's not as high as you'd imagine outside the top 10.
- washedup20

Travis Konecny 16g 9a in 30 games
Case Mitt 8g 17a in 32 games

One is a better scorer, the other a better playmaker. It's pretty close tbh.

And not to be rude, but I've seen the value of RyJo and Benson, with Kulich and Rosen being better than what we currently have, so I don't mind 1st rounders. I only mind giving them away for free. The difference between Mitts and Konecny is not (2) 1sts. The fact we would entertain paying that for a year and a half of TK is crazy IMO.

Agreed on the mitts trade that one seems to be lopsided a bit for Philly

The andersson trade if its available should have been made yesterday

As far as depth goes im not trading Greenway for it. Im moving out one or all of girgensons jost and olofsson however possible if they can't be in the trade for the depth.
- ieetbred

I think that's what we need. Greenway can play at least. Let's get rid of the guys who can't, we have plenty.

Konecny trade would be a massive overpay on Buffalo’s behalf. I don’t even think I would trade Casey straight up for Konecny. Boone Jenner- easy pass on that, he is being paid way too much for my liking.
I would pursue Andersson and would not argue with the proposed trade.. except I will not include Strbak. I think he can develop into a player we will want and need in 3-4 years.
That Konecny trade is essentially 3 firsts to get him. I love the way he plays, he would bring much needed grit and passion… but not at that price. Ostlund and a first would be acceptable
- Cory1

Wildly inaccurate

Konecny has scored 20 goals 3 times, 30 goals once and is on his way to another 30 goal season. Mitts highest scoring season is 15....bro it's not close.

Mitts being the best player on this crappy team means nothing. It's a massive upgrade on the scoresheet and in personality/intangibles the Sabres need.

You have seen the value of 5 1st round picks these past 2 seasons, it's not as high as you'd imagine outside the top 10.
- washedup20

Good stuff I dont know much about konecny. Doesn't seem so farfetched especially with mitts contract up

What price would you consider moving Greenway, what does he bring that makes him needed?
- washedup20

Im not saying i wouldn't move him just that I wouldn't move him for another one of him

Overpaid but I think he could be a good 4th liner pk guy who can move up when needed. He's nothing special though

Travis Konecny 16g 9a in 30 games
Case Mitt 8g 17a in 32 games

One is a better scorer, the other a better playmaker. It's pretty close tbh.

And not to be rude, but I've seen the value of RyJo and Benson, with Kulich and Rosen being better than what we currently have, so I don't mind 1st rounders. I only mind giving them away for free. The difference between Mitts and Konecny is not (2) 1sts. The fact we would entertain paying that for a year and a half of TK is crazy IMO.
- QuinnFan

One does it consistently every season.

As for the prospects/picks, their potential, which continues to be assumed NHL talent doesn't solve the Sabres problems. I don't understand how they continue to be looked at as the solutions.

Good stuff I dont know much about konecny. Doesn't seem so farfetched especially with mitts contract up
- ieetbred

Mitt's agent is sending Adams, Cozens contract terms everyday. Mitt's isn't going to be cheaper than Konecny after this season.

Wildly inaccurate
- washedup20

In your mind. Casey has a higher ceiling while Konecny is more of a known quantity. Just because the Sabres are playing bad hockey doesn’t mean we start making poor trades. As I said, I would trade Ostlund and a protected 1st for TK…

In your mind. Casey has a higher ceiling while Konecny is more of a known quantity. Just because the Sabres are playing bad hockey doesn’t mean we start making poor trades. As I said, I would trade Ostlund and a protected 1st for TK…
- Cory1

I would bet money that Danny B wouldn't trade Konency for Mitt's straight up.

Mitt's agent is sending Adams, Cozens contract terms everyday. Mitt's isn't going to be cheaper than Konecny after this season.
- washedup20

I like mitts but I imagine he will be moved. If its not a great deal for the team he has to go. A konecny type would be what id look for in return. No more perimeter players

im not even blaming that game on upl.

this team is ass. they can be good, when they feel like it. and because they only play when they feel like it, they're ass.

(frank) this team.
- TheSabresTaco

Individual talent and youthful potential isn't translating to team success, resulting in decreased value of players and prospects.

89 saying there is no internal pressure on anyone and there is no plan to make any changes, only makes the fans the fools for watching. It's remarkable how this continues...the Mayor/Governor should seize the team

Hate to say it, but not a big fan of 2/3 of those trades. Konecny is about equal to Mitts at this point, no sense giving up two more firsts. I don't get the fixation on Boone Jenner either tbh. Andersson trade is good, I'd make that one in a heartbeat. Just not sure if the other two aren't just making changes for the sake of making them. Mitts has been one of our better players, so I'm not sure Konecny improves the overall win record any, if at all. Giving up on (2) 1sts should mean we get a pretty massive upgrade.

Would you take all 3?
- QuinnFan

I would do the Andersson trade for sure, the Konecny one I would try to tweak a bit. But I do like 2 out of 3 of them.

One does it consistently every season.

As for the prospects/picks, their potential, which continues to be assumed NHL talent doesn't solve the Sabres problems. I don't understand how they continue to be looked at as the solutions.
- washedup20

Mitts has been pretty consistent since he broke through a couple years back, but okay.

If you aren't going to wait more than a year or two, for mid 1st rounders to develop, they won't be solutions. But I'm sure you see what RyJo and Benson are doing out there. Kulich is currently leading the AHL in scoring. Rosen is right behind him. If you expect solutions to only come from outside the org, IMO, we're fooked.

I would do the Andersson trade for sure, the Konecny one I would try to tweak a bit. But I do like 2 out of 3 of them.
- Buff36

That's fair. TK is a good player, I'm just not sold on paying that for a rental. I'm really hoping something like that Andersson trade is coming, we could really use a guy like him to steady Power.

I would bet money that Danny B wouldn't trade Konency for Mitt's straight up.
- washedup20

The way the Flyers are playing and the culture Jones, Briere, and Torts are building is a huge difference for them. I don’t even think the Flyers would want to part with TK at this point. A three for one trade would not be beneficial for Buffalo

The way the Flyers are playing and the culture Jones, Briere, and Torts are building is a huge difference for them. I don’t even think the Flyers would want to part with TK at this point. A three for one trade would not be beneficial for Buffalo
- Cory1

I agree that they wouldn't trade him now.

The NHL is not going to do Adams any favors, the cost to acquire help only increases the more his plan fails. That's business, potential be damned.

Konecny trade would be a massive overpay on Buffalo’s behalf. I don’t even think I would trade Casey straight up for Konecny. Boone Jenner- easy pass on that, he is being paid way too much for my liking.
I would pursue Andersson and would not argue with the proposed trade.. except I will not include Strbak. I think he can develop into a player we will want and need in 3-4 years.
That Konecny trade is essentially 3 firsts to get him. I love the way he plays, he would bring much needed grit and passion… but not at that price. Ostlund and a first would be acceptable
- Cory1

Konecny brings things Mitts doesn't, I agree its a overpay but what are you signing Mitts to Cap wise. I wouldn't do the Jenner trade. But Konecny brings things we could use. Really depends on what you are willing to pay Mitts

That's fair. TK is a good player, I'm just not sold on paying that for a rental. I'm really hoping something like that Andersson trade is coming, we could really use a guy like him to steady Power.
- QuinnFan

He's not a rental, he is signed next year.

24/25 season lineup most likely:

Benson Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn
Skinner Mitts Savoie/Kulich
Rosen Krebs Greenway

Dahlin Samuelsson
Power Joker
R Johnson Clifton

Levi/UPL

That roster is younger than this seasons and has a lot of individual potential. 3 rookies, 3 sophomores, 14 vets...3 of them with playoff experience, all in support roles.

What would be your expectations for that group? Plan to have the same GM, and coaching staff.

Why is Tampa doing this?
- washedup20

Because they are going to get desperate very soon.

Your response tells me not only is it a fair trade, but also, the exact trade we need and I honest to god think Tampa Bay might need to shake it up, too.

Not many other teams on the outside looking in when it comes to what assets they could send back.

Vancouver would have been perfect but they came out with their asses on fire this season.

24/25 season lineup most likely:

Benson Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn
Skinner Mitts Savoie/Kulich
Rosen Krebs Greenway

Dahlin Samuelsson
Power Joker
R Johnson Clifton

Levi/UPL

That roster is younger than this seasons and has a lot of individual potential. 3 rookies, 3 sophomores, 14 vets...3 of them with playoff experience, all in support roles.

What would be your expectations for that group? Plan to have the same GM, and coaching staff.
- washedup20

Fire Granato yesterday. Bring in Berube. Trade Skinner. Trade Jokiharju for a top 4 vet D for the short term.

24/25 season lineup most likely:

Benson Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn
Skinner Mitts Savoie/Kulich
Rosen Krebs Greenway

Dahlin Samuelsson
Power Joker
R Johnson Clifton

Levi/UPL

That roster is younger than this seasons and has a lot of individual potential. 3 rookies, 3 sophomores, 14 vets...3 of them with playoff experience, all in support roles.

What would be your expectations for that group? Plan to have the same GM, and coaching staff.
- washedup20

First two forward lines are fine. Savoie is a question mark for me. If Adams could put together a trade to get a top 4 defenseman and Savoie was a big part of it… I’m all for it. I think Kulich’s game is more NHL ready. I would also throw in Krebs as a sweetener. He is a spare part at this point and not the kind of 4th line center we need. Get a 4th line center with size and grit who plays sound 200’ hockey and can win faceoffs.
R. Johnson would be in my top 4 d men, move Jokiharju to 3rd pairing or trade him in a package to to another top 4 dman.
Dahlin-R. Johnson
Power- trade/FA
Clifton-Samuelsson- Jokiharju… pick two, trade the other

Fire Granato yesterday. Bring in Berube. Trade Skinner. Trade Jokiharju for a top 4 vet D for the short term.
- DirtyDan

They will not do any of that.

Because they are going to get desperate very soon.

Your response tells me not only is it a fair trade, but also, the exact trade we need and I honest to god think Tampa Bay might need to shake it up, too.

Not many other teams on the outside looking in when it comes to what assets they could send back.

Vancouver would have been perfect but they came out with their asses on fire this season.
- Jet Jaguar BD

you sweet summer child