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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:43 PM ET
Blackhawks say Perry being cut is completely unrelated to him sleeping with bedards mom.
- joshs

if it was any team other than the hawks, I would believe them

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
So Greenway comes back, does rosen sit in 12-6? Do they both sit in 11-7?
- TheSabresTaco

10-8

bench rosen and kulich
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:45 PM ET
No you're right on that. But why is Don in the position that playing 11-7 makes them a better team?
- TheSabresTaco

2 johnsons are better than 1


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
almost everyone said karlsson was bad in his own end and don't get him

has anyone checked the stats for the pens goalies this year vs last year?

2.60 gaa .922 save percentage this year

3.21 gaa .907 save percentage last year
SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks
Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA
Joined: 03.20.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:01 PM ET
Props to him for slowly, beginning to attempt to dig himself out of the hole he voluntarily jumped into.
- washedup20


That’s what Bedard’s mom said.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:12 PM ET
@Hockey_Robinson
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11h
NHLer's post-hip resurfacing surgery:

• Nicklas Bäckström: 47GP, 22 PTS
• Carl Hagelin: 0 GP, 0 PTS
• Ryan Kesler: 0 GP, 0 PTS
• Ed Jovanovski: 37 GP, 5 PTS

- Lunaion

Sounds like a 2mil per projection. Maybe he will bang Lucas Raymond’s Mom for some street cred
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:13 PM ET
almost everyone said karlsson was bad in his own end and don't get him

has anyone checked the stats for the pens goalies this year vs last year?

2.60 gaa .922 save percentage this year

3.21 gaa .907 save percentage last year

- homiedclown

Has anyone also noticed Mitts is pacing Eichel this year 👀
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
Has anyone also noticed Mitts is pacing Eichel this year 👀
- lulags

people think he will sign for 6 mil


it's gonna be 7.5 to 8 per IMO
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 28 @ 10:18 PM ET
people think he will sign for 6 mil


it's gonna be 7.5 to 8 per IMO

- homiedclown

Especially with Cozens auditioning for season 11 of the walking dead this year at 8mil per
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:24 PM ET
people think he will sign for 6 mil


it's gonna be 7.5 to 8 per IMO

- homiedclown


Casey are his representatives gonna be paid well. Buffalo Sabres have some very intriguing decisions looming in the near future. I think the ceiling for CM37 is much, much higher than some here believe. Is TT and his salary the starting point or is it higher? Casey has been our most productive and consistent forward this year
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 28 @ 10:40 PM ET
almost everyone said karlsson was bad in his own end and don't get him

has anyone checked the stats for the pens goalies this year vs last year?

2.60 gaa .922 save percentage this year

3.21 gaa .907 save percentage last year

- homiedclown


Right on que, Karlsson just got burned in OT to finish -2 on the night
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
Contradicting statements from the team and perry suggest otherwise
- ieetbred


I’m hearing he was spotted snorting gorilla fingers of Bedards mom’s landing strip..
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:55 PM ET
Casey are his representatives gonna be paid well. Buffalo Sabres have some very intriguing decisions looming in the near future. I think the ceiling for CM37 is much, much higher than some here believe. Is TT and his salary the starting point or is it higher? Casey has been our most productive and consistent forward this year
- Cory1


At 25, he's most likely close to his peak.

Pierre-Luc Dubois got 8x8.5m. It's a reasonable comp. I'd guess he'd come in below that, but you never know who is going to fight for their $.
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 28 @ 11:03 PM ET
At 25, he's most likely close to his peak.

Pierre-Luc Dubois got 8x8.5m. It's a reasonable comp. I'd guess he'd come in below that, but you never know who is going to fight for their $.

- Lunaion


I agree with you on everything except I think Casey has a ways to go to reach his potential. He has obviously taken his training seriously and the results are there. I still think he is a wildcard and see him getting better and better for the next few years. I think your numbers are reasonable for term and $
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 28 @ 11:04 PM ET
At 25, he's most likely close to his peak.

Pierre-Luc Dubois got 8x8.5m. It's a reasonable comp. I'd guess he'd come in below that, but you never know who is going to fight for their $.

- Lunaion


I think the Reinhart bridge in Florida ironically enough is a good comp.

$7M per for 3 or 4 years, take your pick and can still get a big contract afterwords at age 28/29.



Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 28 @ 11:09 PM ET
I think the Reinhart bridge in Florida ironically enough is a good comp.

$7M per for 3 or 4 years, take your pick and can still get a big contract afterwords at age 28/29.

- Swedish_Jesus


It's fair, but it's Florida and he's not a C. Bumps things up significnatly.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 28 @ 11:19 PM ET
It's fair, but it's Florida and he's not a C. Bumps things up significnatly.
- Lunaion


Mitts’ only leverage is asking for a trade, which I guess is entirely possible. His QO offer will be low due to his existing contract and he could always go to Arb and push himself to UFA but I think the allure of a 3 year deal at Tage’s AAV shade over $7M per could be what the doctor ordered

Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Nov 28 @ 11:28 PM ET
At 25, he's most likely close to his peak.

Pierre-Luc Dubois got 8x8.5m. It's a reasonable comp. I'd guess he'd come in below that, but you never know who is going to fight for their $.

- Lunaion



It's gotta come in way lower than this number. Dubois was much better early on in his career and had posted 3 seasons of 25+ goals. Casey may not get to 20 this year.

Obviously not taking away anything from his game, which has been great. But we know that perhaps the single biggest needle mover in contract talks is goals. That's how Cozens got his 7 mil, he was on pace for like 30 goals when he signed I think.

I can't think of a better career comparable right now for Mittelstadt than Dylan Strome. Nearly identical ppg in his last year in CHI vs. Mittelstadt last year. And he signed a 5x5 after 36 pts in 36 games. I think Casey will get more than this but his deal will likely be closer to Strome's than Dubois'.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 28 @ 11:28 PM ET
Mitts’ only leverage is asking for a trade, which I guess is entirely possible. His QO offer will be low due to his existing contract and he could always go to Arb and push himself to UFA but I think the allure of a 3 year deal at Tage’s AAV shade over $7M per could be what the doctor ordered
- Swedish_Jesus


He's not that far from UFA and arb is a huge threat. I think that's a lot of levarage.

Like I said before, you just never know who is going to fight and who might settle. Difference now is that they are very limited in what they can give out. Can't imagine they want their hands tied when Tuch and Benson are up for new deals in a couple years.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 28 @ 11:30 PM ET
For the most part, the out of town scoreboards have really fallen in the Sabres favour the last few nights.

The Eastern conference is mid, unfortunately the Sabres are too at the moment.

If they can find consistency though, they can without a doubt take a wildcard spot
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 28 @ 11:33 PM ET
He's not that far from UFA and arb is a huge threat. I think that's a lot of levarage.

Like I said before, you just never know who is going to fight and who might settle. Difference now is that they are very limited in what they can give out. Can't imagine they want their hands tied when Tuch and Benson are up for new deals in a couple years.

- Lunaion


Bridge I think is enticing to both the team and the player for the points you alluded to.

Sabres have committed term to Tage, Cozens, Power, Dahlin and have Peterka, Quinn, Benson who will command $$$$ within the next couple of years. Another long term deal restricts flexibility.

On Mitts end, pocket $21M over the next three years and continue to play like this you can be looking at $10M plus on a long term deal either by the Sabres or someone else in free agency at that point with the rising cap.

All depends on what the player and their reps think
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 28 @ 11:37 PM ET
It's gotta come in way lower than this number. Dubois was much better early on in his career and had posted 3 seasons of 25+ goals. Casey may not get to 20 this year.

Obviously not taking away anything from his game, which has been great. But we know that perhaps the single biggest needle mover in contract talks is goals. That's how Cozens got his 7 mil, he was on pace for like 30 goals when he signed I think.

I can't think of a better career comparable right now for Mittelstadt than Dylan Strome. Nearly identical ppg in his last year in CHI vs. Mittelstadt last year. And he signed a 5x5 after 36 pts in 36 games. I think Casey will get more than this but his deal will likely be closer to Strome's than Dubois'.

- Michael Ghofrani


I know it's on the high side, but I think you're pushing it with Strome on the low side. There's a number of guys in that 7'ish range who aren't really goal scorers.

Term is a huge part of it too, of course. Like I said last post, handing out another 7/8 year deal might be difficult. If you just want to buy a year or 2 of UFA, cost should come down a bit.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 28 @ 11:43 PM ET
Bridge I think is enticing to both the team and the player for the points you alluded to.

Sabres have committed term to Tage, Cozens, Power, Dahlin and have Peterka, Quinn, Benson who will command $$$$ within the next couple of years. Another long term deal restricts flexibility.

On Mitts end, pocket $21M over the next three years and continue to play like this you can be looking at $10M plus on a long term deal either by the Sabres or someone else in free agency at that point with the rising cap.

All depends on what the player and their reps think

- Swedish_Jesus


I think most guys in his shoes want the long term deal. Watching everyone else land one makes it awkward here.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 28 @ 11:43 PM ET
For the most part, the out of town scoreboards have really fallen in the Sabres favour the last few nights.

The Eastern conference is mid, unfortunately the Sabres are too at the moment.

If they can find consistency though, they can without a doubt take a wildcard spot

- Swedish_Jesus


That's a bit optimistic
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Nov 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
I know it's on the high side, but I think you're pushing it with Strome on the low side. There's a number of guys in that 7'ish range who aren't really goal scorers.

Term is a huge part of it too, of course. Like I said last post, handing out another 7/8 year deal might be difficult. If you just want to buy a year or 2 of UFA, cost should come down a bit.

- Lunaion


Yeah agree on both fronts, but I picked Strome because the sudden nature of his turn around kinda reminded me of Casey after years of not living up to the hype.

Id have to look back on those players but the history on those 7 mil guys also matters quite a bit too as far as leverage is concerned.

I think the EH twins had him projected at 6 years and a bit under 6 mil for an 87.5 mil cap. Im not sure you can get him at that number for 6 years but 4 maybe?
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