I understand the need for quality veteran leadership. And I understand why Kyle is here. I think they hoped he'd provide one more year of quality defensive on-ice play.

They just play him more and he delivers less.

The idea is right, the execution was a ground-out to first.

There are some good (young) leaders in that room, and Dahlin will be the next C.
- TheSabresTaco

Then it is time for the collective Core to actually start leading. Now is the time to takeover, not in the upcoming offseason.

But we're here nitpicking the existence and purpose of Kyle Okposo after losing 7-2 against a team with a negative 5v5 scoring rate and shooting 12 times against a bad goalie.

Respectfully, the focus needs to be broadened beyond this mundane topic of a washed up captain.
- TheSabresTaco

I widden the issue by making the case about team's leadership via the Core.
It was quickly brought back to Kyle..by someone

(frank) both teams.

The fact that they brough back the 4th line and signing EJ and Clifton took up spots to improve the team, combined they are 4 of the worst 4 players on the team. A better GM could have read the signals as there were very strong signs
- Clifton and EJ being jettisoned, Okposo absolutely spent the last 1/3 (1/2?) Of the season.
-Jost Is a nuthin burger that could have easily been upgraded.
- IonSabres

Mr. press conference is fearlessly hiding now after a summer of absolute ridiculous hype.

The fact that they brough back the 4th line and signing EJ and Clifton took up spots to improve the team, combined they are 4 of the worst 4 players on the team. A better GM could have read the signals as there were very strong signs
- Clifton and EJ being jettisoned, Okposo absolutely spent the last 1/3 (1/2?) Of the season.
-Jost Is a nuthin burger that could have easily been upgraded.
- IonSabres

I agree, I really do. I just think they have the physical talent to be better. There are teams with lesser talent playing better and it probably has a lot to do with coaching.

the bills and sabres are both underachievers and it starts with their head coaches

Mr. press conference is fearlessly hiding now after a summer of absolute ridiculous hype.
- washedup20

Re Bills,
Gotta hope Belichick gets fired...hire that sumafemale dog in a heartbeat and stop fvckin around with a guy who can't get you there. Offer McD the D-Asst Coordinator position, Billy boys gets HC and DC titles.
2 games is a very small sample admittedly, but the O game planing has been far more cohesive and has purpose to it versus a complete feeling of disjointedness

I agree, I really do. I just think they have the physical talent to be better. There are teams with lesser talent playing better and it probably has a lot to do with coaching.
- TheSabresTaco

With any type of competent FO/Owner this team is a cup contender this season and would've broke the drought last year

With any type of competent FO/Owner this team is a cup contender this season and would've broke the drought last year
- sbroads24

you have problems when your head coach plays a 9th overall pick less than 4 minutes in his only game due to fear of a mistake

I agree, I really do. I just think they have the physical talent to be better. There are teams with lesser talent playing better and it probably has a lot to do with coaching.
- TheSabresTaco

I don't disagree, but with that extension, seems like they are locked in.
I'm not sure who is available, but good lord KA needs to step up and force a change at the Asst Coach level...we'll remember Gerbe telling us in the offseason they were going to be replaced...Donnie must have beat the tar out of the table to retain them.

Speaking of Gerbe...wtf with his predictions...last few have been 0 for few.

Under Kyle's leadership, the Sabres have seen players regress while in Buffalo only to make the playoffs once leaving. This list includes:

- Jack Eichel*
- Ryan O'Reilly***
- Sam Reinhart
- Evander Kane
- Marcus Foligno
- Jake McCabe
- Zach Bogosian*
- William Carrier*
- Evan Rodrigues
- Dmitri Kulikov
- Taylor Fedun
- Derek Grant
- Nicolas Deslauriers
- Alex Nylander
- Hudson Fasching
- Robin Lehner*
- Linus Ullmark
- Marco Scandella*
- Johan Larsson
- Brandon Montour
- Will Borgen
- Marcus Johansson
- Jimmy Vesey
- Conor Sheary
- Colin Miller
- Curtis Lazar
- Wayne Simmonds
- Jonas Johansson
- Taylor Hall
- Eric Staal


* won the stanley cup, *** won awards in the playoffs

Re Bills,
Gotta hope Belichick gets fired...hire that sumafemale dog in a heartbeat and stop fvckin around with a guy who can't get you there. Offer McD the D-Asst Coordinator position, Billy boys gets HC and DC titles.
2 games is a very small sample admittedly, but the O game planing has been far more cohesive and has purpose to it versus a complete feeling of disjointedness
- IonSabres

No more old people. Find a young guy that lets Allen loose. Belichick isn't the right guy for Josh, after last night...all this team is, is Josh.

Under Kyle's leadership, the Sabres have seen players regress while in Buffalo only to make the playoffs once leaving. This list includes:

- Jack Eichel*
- Ryan O'Reilly***
- Sam Reinhart
- Evander Kane
- Marcus Foligno
- Jake McCabe
- Zach Bogosian*
- William Carrier*
- Evan Rodrigues
- Dmitri Kulikov
- Taylor Fedun
- Derek Grant
- Nicolas Deslauriers
- Alex Nylander
- Hudson Fasching
- Robin Lehner*
- Linus Ullmark
- Marco Scandella*
- Johan Larsson
- Brandon Montour
- Will Borgen
- Marcus Johansson
- Jimmy Vesey
- Conor Sheary
- Colin Miller
- Curtis Lazar
- Wayne Simmonds
- Jonas Johansson
- Taylor Hall
- Eric Staal


* won the stanley cup, *** won awards in the playoffs
- washedup20

My mind is bottled.

@LLysowski
Sabres’ lines/pairs at the morning skate:

Skinner-Mittelstadt-Tuch
Benson-Cozens-Peterka
Rosén-Jost-Olofsson
Kulich-Krebs-Okposo

Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - Ryan Johnson
Clifton - Erik Johnson
Bryson - Jokiharju

UPL in the starter’s net

@LLysowski
Sabres’ lines/pairs at the morning skate:

Skinner-Mittelstadt-Tuch
Benson-Cozens-Peterka
Rosén-Jost-Olofsson
Kulich-Krebs-Okposo

Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - Ryan Johnson
Clifton - Erik Johnson
Bryson - Jokiharju

UPL in the starter’s net
- Lunaion

Great season so far congratulations on the call up, to make sure we get the best look at your abilities we are gonna play you with okposo and Krebs.

If I got that message I’m heading back to Rochester on my own.

Great season so far congratulations on the call up, to make sure we get the best look at your abilities we are gonna play you with okposo and Krebs.

If I got that message I’m heading back to Rochester on my own.
- Shadman306

@LLysowski
Victor Olofsson is back on the top power-play unit. Neither Kulich nor Rosén are with the second group.

@LLysowski
Victor Olofsson is back on the top power-play unit. Neither Kulich nor Rosén are with the second group.
- Lunaion

I'm convinced.
I think Donnie is sabotaging the year as a giant FU signal to Adams for this BS roster he assembled. I mean, what the hell is Adams going to do, fire him? Not happening.

Hey Kevin, thanks for bringing back/in 5 god-aweful players and no frigging Goalie except a college kid. Here ya go MFer.

@LLysowski
Sabres’ lines/pairs at the morning skate:

Skinner-Mittelstadt-Tuch
Benson-Cozens-Peterka
Rosén-Jost-Olofsson
Kulich-Krebs-Okposo

Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - Ryan Johnson
Clifton - Erik Johnson
Bryson - Jokiharju

UPL in the starter’s net
- Lunaion

This collective just needs to realize conviction/compete and all problems will be solved.

I don't disagree, but with that extension, seems like they are locked in.
I'm not sure who is available, but good lord KA needs to step up and force a change at the Asst Coach level...we'll remember Gerbe telling us in the offseason they were going to be replaced...Donnie must have beat the tar out of the table to retain them.

Speaking of Gerbe...wtf with his predictions...last few have been 0 for few.
- IonSabres

Not true, I've had many Good Days ™ since

Kulich and Rosen should at the very least be getting a look on the same line here but nah 2nd game in a row they will be split

At least UPL is starting as he should be

Also it is borderline criminal at this point not to sit Clifton

What in the frank kind of promises did the GM make for him? FFS

Gameday all, take your medicine before puckdrop:

Kulich and Rosen should at the very least be getting a look on the same line here but nah 2nd game in a row they will be split

At least UPL is starting as he should be
- ieetbred

They aren't on special teams either.

i mean they didn't

the offseason sucked and kyle was probably reason 8 in the pecking order
- TheSabresTaco

No he was reason one. The first thing that sucked about the offseason was him being resigned before free agency even began

It was a clear and obvious precursor to the non moves that followed

He is a great leader, I can confidently tell you that. What he isn't, though, is effective on the ice.

He has Andrew Ference'd.
- TheSabresTaco

Just because the players allegedly like him doesn't make him a great leader

Plenty of guys do things the right way that aren't leaders. He is a loser in the nhl and everything about his time in Buffalo is loser poop