I was in Ahh of how bad everything went. They scored 3 TD's and only gained like 70yrds doing it. Game should have been pretty much out of Hand by Halftime and somehow it wasn't. Blame the 1st half on some bad mental errors and really bad Officiating and the 2nd Half on a Bills Defensive Meltdown.
- Buff36

McDerp is a stain on the underpants of the bald society.

Sorry to say it, because they have been good for us, but Hyde and Poyer are Slow and don't know if they are trying to Hard. But they both bit on a few plays that cost us 2 Touchdowns. Think Safety should be a Priority, atleast 1 in the Draft

He pretty much nailed everything we’ve been complaining about. I’m happy it’s a
National publication too. Maybe something will
finally get done
- lulags

Couple of things stuck out from the Hockey Writers article you posted.

He wrote about Granato changing his system, but can anybody reasonably tell what system Granato even runs?

This also stuck out:

>>> Instead, the night was marred with poor defensive play, poor goaltending, and a derelict offense that could only muster a pathetic 12 shots on goal.

Couple of things stuck out from the Hockey Writers article you posted.

He wrote about Granato changing his system, but can anybody reasonably tell what system Granato even runs?

This also stuck out:

>>> Instead, the night was marred with poor defensive play, poor goaltending, and a derelict offense that could only muster a pathetic 12 shots on goal.
- kingcong39

Pray the offense scores a goal...then turtle into a trap game with suicidal tendencies.

Couple of things stuck out from the Hockey Writers article you posted.

He wrote about Granato changing his system, but can anybody reasonably tell what system Granato even runs?

This also stuck out:

>>> Instead, the night was marred with poor defensive play, poor goaltending, and a derelict offense that could only muster a pathetic 12 shots on goal.
- kingcong39

Should hang that in the Locker room

McDerp is a stain on the underpants of the bald society.
- washedup20

Lot of Stains

20 seconds and 13 seconds, kinda the way it goes for the Bills. I don't know why we are so cursed both teams.

does everyone have their phones ready, it's going to be....


A Good Day ™

Couple of things stuck out from the Hockey Writers article you posted.

He wrote about Granato changing his system, but can anybody reasonably tell what system Granato even runs?

This also stuck out:

>>> Instead, the night was marred with poor defensive play, poor goaltending, and a derelict offense that could only muster a pathetic 12 shots on goal.
- kingcong39

vote a guy off the (frank)ing island

Okposo coming out of the padded room to become the spokesman for Pegula should have been the red flag for all, instead he was welcomed back and celebrated as a quality guy….thats enough to be a leader right? (McDerp as well, 13 seconds etc…)
- washedup20

How some of these guys get tagged as a leader is a real mystery to me. Maybe KA can identity the qualities he sees. I'm sure there will be some qualities that can't be matched.

That's right Pronman, you little b1tch.


Too low
Jack Quinn, RW, Buffalo Sabres
When I watched Quinn in his draft year, I saw the things that made him very appealing. His skill and hockey sense looked excellent and obviously he scored a ton in the OHL. I liked the player but had some doubts about Quinn’s future, about how well his game would translate to the pros and how real his offense was. His skating was just OK, especially given his average size. He was an older/late birthdate prospect without a track record of significant scoring. Typically a player with that profile doesn’t hit in a major way.

This was one case in which you needed to block out what typically happens, because a player is usually not on a team like the Ottawa 67’s, which was loaded and ran over everyone. That Quinn was, at least in his draft season, such an important player on such a dominant junior team should have been a flag that his skill was high-end, even if that wasn’t the case his prior season in Ottawa. It’s an important lesson in context and not talking myself out of high-end skill when it’s clear and evident while watching the player. Right now, Quinn looks like he will be a longtime top-six forward in the NHL.

How some of these guys get tagged as a leader is a real mystery to me. Maybe KA can identity the qualities he sees. I'm sure there will be some qualities that can't be matched.
- Freddie krug

He is a great leader, I can confidently tell you that. What he isn't, though, is effective on the ice.

He has Andrew Ference'd.

That's right Pronman, you little b1tch.


Too low
Jack Quinn, RW, Buffalo Sabres
When I watched Quinn in his draft year, I saw the things that made him very appealing. His skill and hockey sense looked excellent and obviously he scored a ton in the OHL. I liked the player but had some doubts about Quinn’s future, about how well his game would translate to the pros and how real his offense was. His skating was just OK, especially given his average size. He was an older/late birthdate prospect without a track record of significant scoring. Typically a player with that profile doesn’t hit in a major way.

This was one case in which you needed to block out what typically happens, because a player is usually not on a team like the Ottawa 67’s, which was loaded and ran over everyone. That Quinn was, at least in his draft season, such an important player on such a dominant junior team should have been a flag that his skill was high-end, even if that wasn’t the case his prior season in Ottawa. It’s an important lesson in context and not talking myself out of high-end skill when it’s clear and evident while watching the player. Right now, Quinn looks like he will be a longtime top-six forward in the NHL.
- TheSabresTaco

Lol.

He is a great leader, I can confidently tell you that. What he isn't, though, is effective on the ice.

He has Andrew Ference'd.
- TheSabresTaco

A great leader would identify he is the issue and generate solution to solve it.

You have a bad hockey player with corporate talking points...he embodies the failed culture of Pegula/Adams. He's like watching Biden walk, you just hope he doesn't die and when its over, everyone breathes a sigh of relief. Pity is not the identity of good leadership.

This guy came back from injury, he's a great leader:

He is a great leader, I can confidently tell you that. What he isn't, though, is effective on the ice.

He has Andrew Ference'd.
- TheSabresTaco

I believe the issue isn't whether KO is a leader, more appropriately it is the lack of trust in The Core's leadership abilities.

Why bringing back, then relying so heavily on him in terms of TOI is a good idea for an obviously spent players speaks volumes to me about the void (small "v" here, not The Void) in effective leadership from Tage, Tuch, Cozens & Dahlin. While Cozens and Dhlin are relatively young in age, they have played hundreds of NHL games each and Tage and Tuch are old enough with hundreds of games.

A great leader would identify he is the issue and generate solution to solve it.

You have a bad hockey player with corporate talking points...he embodies the failed culture of Pegula/Adams. He's like watching Biden walk, you just hope he doesn't die and when its over, everyone breathes a sigh of relief. Pity is not the identity of good leadership.
- washedup20

that's quite an opinion

I believe the issue isn't whether KO is a leader, more appropriately it is the lack of trust in The Core's leadership abilities.

Why bringing back, then relying so heavily on him in terms of TOI is a good idea for an obviously spent players speaks volumes to me about the void (small "v" here, not The Void) in effective leadership from Tage, Tuch, Cozens & Dahlin. While Cozens and Dhlin are relatively young in age, they have played hundreds of NHL games each and Tage and Tuch are old enough with hundreds of games.
- IonSabres

the better argument is, are his leadership skills worth more than the detriment he is on the ice. That's something I'd love to listen to.

the better argument is, are his leadership skills worth more than the detriment he is on the ice. That's something I'd love to listen to.
- TheSabresTaco

Yet his leadership was irrelevant when Eichel/Ror were in Buffalo.

I think we can all agree that the plague on this team isn't just the fact that Kyle is here. It's way, way deeper.

A good team can easily survive a Kyle. And an EJ.

Yet they were irrelevant when Eichel/Ror were here.
- washedup20

Not sure what 5 years ago has to do with today

Not sure what 5 years ago has to do with today
- TheSabresTaco

Kyle wasn't a leader 5 years ago? Did he learn how to become one at ECMC?

I believe the issue isn't whether KO is a leader, more appropriately it is the lack of trust in The Core's leadership abilities.

Why bringing back, then relying so heavily on him in terms of TOI is a good idea for an obviously spent players speaks volumes to me about the void (small "v" here, not The Void) in effective leadership from Tage, Tuch, Cozens & Dahlin. While Cozens and Dhlin are relatively young in age, they have played hundreds of NHL games each and Tage and Tuch are old enough with hundreds of games.
- IonSabres

I understand the need for quality veteran leadership. And I understand why Kyle is here. I think they hoped he'd provide one more year of quality defensive on-ice play.

They just play him more and he delivers less.

The idea is right, the execution was a ground-out to first.

There are some good (young) leaders in that room, and Dahlin will be the next C.

Kyle wasn't a leader 5 years ago? Did he learn how to become one at ECMC?
- washedup20

He was a leader, and fwiw Girgensons stated he was always the leader once he came here.

But we're here nitpicking the existence and purpose of Kyle Okposo after losing 7-2 against a team with a negative 5v5 scoring rate and shooting 12 times against a bad goalie.

Respectfully, the focus needs to be broadened beyond this mundane topic of a washed up captain.