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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
I forgot to add next year's 4M cap rise. This team has 13M going into the offseason with Joker and Mitts totaling 9. Gave Krebs 0.95 and UPL 1.8.
- TheSabresTaco


Sounds like enough to entice Skjei or Pesce, if they're open to the idea.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:10 PM ET
Yeah, have to keep those 4. Greenway, as well as he's played, is more easily replaceable. We will sign all four to long term deals then I hope.
- QuinnFan


I don't see how that's possible. If you extend Mitts + Joker, even bridging them is going to get tough....if they play up to expectations.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sounds like enough to entice Skjei or Pesce, if they're open to the idea.
- QuinnFan


At his numbers, it's 10m for 9 roster spots. Just adding ELC's and cheap deals at that point.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
Skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Peterka-Mitts-Quinn
Greenway-Cozens-Benson/Savoie
LA-Krebs(?)-RRY
Larryx2

Dahlin-Samuelsson
Power-Jokiharju
RJ-Clifton
Darry

Levi
UPL

Signing Mitts for 6, Joker for 3, that roster has 9+M in cap space. One of the rookies, maybe 2 make the team. Kyle you're replacing, Girgensons maybe, Jost maybe. There's more than enough money to maneuver the bottom of the roster.

- TheSabresTaco

that lineup has 1 of our recent 5 first round picks of forwards in the lineup leaving out savoie or benson as well as rosen, kulich and ostlund

you have to find a way to get at least 3 of them in your lineup next fall IMO, maybe all but ostlund

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:16 PM ET
Sorry IMO if Mitts gets into the 7Mill range on a LT I think you have to consider moving him. That's a lot if money tied up on LT Contracts, especially if they don't grow into what we hope.
- Buff36


With Cap going up I think you can fit him in pretty easily. 8.5mil over the next 2 years if CF is correct.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
You're committing long term to a group that struggles to maintain .500 hockey. Wild
- Theguywiththething

this is a good post
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
With Cap going up I think you can fit him in pretty easily. 8.5mil over the next 2 years if CF is correct.
- DirtyDan

then the following summer you have to deal with quinn ryan johnson and peterka

unless adams locks them up this summer

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Mitts is probably closer to 7-8 than 6 IMO. If he keeps the pace obviously. Give him the Cozens/Tage contract.
- DirtyDan


Yeah he's not getting more than Tage. See ya then
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 7 @ 3:29 PM ET
that lineup has 1 of our recent 5 first round picks of forwards in the lineup leaving out savoie or benson as well as rosen, kulich and ostlund

you have to find a way to get at least 3 of them in your lineup next fall IMO, maybe all but ostlund

- homiedclown

Right. It's very difficult to accurately predict what happens with those kids.

Salary will be the least of their problems though.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 3:29 PM ET
Now we're cooking with gas!

https://www.dailyfaceoff....-sabres/line-combinations

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
Yeah he's not getting more than Tage. See ya then
- TheSabresTaco

he would be signing the deal 2 years after tage signed what is now a very friendly team deal


side note at this point what makes power worth more ina cap era than tage or casey


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:32 PM ET
then the following summer you have to deal with quinn ryan johnson and peterka

unless adams locks them up this summer

- homiedclown


I'm skeptical of Quinn. Love him but will he be the same? I think that's a fair question.

What do you guys think Ryjo will command? He was pretty good against the leafs, big play came against one of the worst players in the NHL. Im not sold on him cause of one game.

Peterka 5x5? What do yall think is reasonable for him with a 54pt pace
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yeah he's not getting more than Tage. See ya then
- TheSabresTaco


If I was him and I kept the pace up I'd be asking for the same contract. Not Mitts fault Tage took the low ball.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:34 PM ET


Peterka 5x5? What do yall think is reasonable for him with a 54pt pace

- DirtyDan

no clue

he didn't bridge cozen, power or samuelsson

he may say screw it and lock up peterka and quinn long term this summer and maybe krebs as well
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 7 @ 3:34 PM ET
he would be signing the deal 2 years after tage signed what is now a very friendly team deal

side note at this point what makes power worth more ina cap era than tage or casey

- homiedclown


The quality of his play...?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
no clue

he didn't bridge cozen, power or samuelsson

he may say screw it and lock up peterka and quinn long term this summer and maybe krebs as well

- homiedclown


I doubt they do this.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:36 PM ET
The quality of his play...?
- kingcong39

again casey is a top 5 even strength point scorer in the entire nhl over the last 45 games

1st team all star production at a better clip than even tage
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 3:36 PM ET
I doubt they do this.
- DirtyDan

5 years 15 mil

anchor the larry line


I have seen stranger things with this franchise
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
5 years 15 mil

anchor the larry line


I have seen stranger things with this franchise

- homiedclown


No way he gets 3 milli's. I'd fvckin revolt

Guys worth a league minimum at this point.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 3:39 PM ET
Who scores the 1st goal? Let me guess, John Jason Peterka.

I think Skinner shows the Canes what they're missing out on. The Skinman Cometh tonight.

WOOOOOO! Whether you like the 3ER or hate the 3ER, you better learn to love the 3ER because i'm the best thing going around here . WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:39 PM ET
I'm skeptical of Quinn. Love him but will he be the same? I think that's a fair question.

What do you guys think Ryjo will command? He was pretty good against the leafs, big play came against one of the worst players in the NHL. Im not sold on him cause of one game.

Peterka 5x5? What do yall think is reasonable for him with a 54pt pace

- DirtyDan


Really early to project RJ. Bryson got 2x1.8m. That seems like the minimum, assuming he's a regular next season.

JJ/Quinn will be 4 years from UFA. 5 year deals make no sense. Probably looking at brdiges that might run 3-5m.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 7 @ 3:47 PM ET
With Cap going up I think you can fit him in pretty easily. 8.5mil over the next 2 years if CF is correct.
- DirtyDan


I think you'll have an extremely difficult time finding that room in 2 years.

Also can't forget that with all these first round picks, there's still a lot of bonus money out there. 7.3m next year. They won't all hit, but wouldn't crazy to think 4m might.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:49 PM ET
I think you'll have an extremely difficult time finding that room in 2 years.

Also can't forget that with all these first round picks, there's still a lot of bonus money out there. 7.3m next year. They won't all hit, but wouldn't crazy to think 4m might.

- Lunaion


Fit him now and worry about the cap down the road.

Should be a lot easier to make trades once the caps gone up.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 7 @ 3:52 PM ET
I think you'll have an extremely difficult time finding that room in 2 years.

Also can't forget that with all these first round picks, there's still a lot of bonus money out there. 7.3m next year. They won't all hit, but wouldn't crazy to think 4m might.

- Lunaion


Just created this to give further context to what you're point out:

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4682441

(I potentially estimated slightly high on all the signings, but not by much)
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 7 @ 3:57 PM ET
Just created this to give further context to what you're point out:

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4682441

(I potentially estimated slightly high on all the signings, but not by much)

- kingcong39


You can save the money by not re-signing 3 extras.
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