His cap hit is 12.6 per year. The highest cap hit In The league and is making 16 mil a year for the first three years of that deal.

I call BS.
- ImThatGuy

It's also buyout proof and all in signing bonuses.

Team friendly my ass.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/639892

His cap hit is 12.6 per year. The highest cap hit In The league and is making 16 mil a year for the first three years of that deal.

I call BS.
- ImThatGuy

If AM and his 85pts in 74 games is worth 13.25, what is Mac worth at 111 in 3 less games? 14? 15?

He took less, yet again. He could've easily milked COL for more on his last deal too. AM took every penny both times. That extra change makes a difference.

If AM and his 85pts in 74 games is worth 13.25, what is Mac worth at 111 in 3 less games? 14? 15?

He took less, yet again. He could've easily milked COL for more on his last deal too. AM took every penny both times. That extra change makes a difference.
- RhinoFan

Nate followed Crosby in taking less to have a better team around him

It's also buyout proof and all in signing bonuses.

Team friendly my ass.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/639892
- kingcong39

You're under the impression he couldn't have gotten the same deal as AM despite being the better producer both in the regular season and playoffs?

Nate followed Crosby in taking less to have a better team around him
- washedup20

Right and these guys are at the top of the game. We aren't even talking about all the vets that take significantly less to come or stay on teams like that. I just used Mac as an example because he literally said he took less...

You're under the impression he couldn't have gotten the same deal as AM despite being the better producer both in the regular season and playoffs?
- RhinoFan

Since you are using comparisons, his new deal pays him more than what the best player in the sport makes.

How is that team friendly if it made him the highest paid player in the sport at the time he signed the deal, when he's not the best player in the sport?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid

Weird we haven't heard even a peep on that. Whatever is going on is being kept very quiet.
- Buff36

Boss had it right...they're waiting until closer to Training Camp.
Might have Power wrapped up by then as well?

Since you are using comparisons, his new deal pays him more than what the best player in the sport makes.

How is that team friendly if it made him the highest paid player in the sport at the time he signed the deal, when he's not the best player in the sport?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid
- kingcong39

You're skipping over the fact McDavid signed that deal in 2018, when Mac was making $6.3M. McDavid will get $15-17M on his next deal. Their career contract totals aren't even going to be close, so I'd say that's probably a bad comparable.

Since you are using comparisons, his new deal pays him more than what the best player in the sport makes.

How is that team friendly if it made him the highest paid player in the sport at the time he signed the deal, when he's not the best player in the sport?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid
- kingcong39

Because the other deal you refer to was signed before 5 seasons ago, at 1.4% of Cap more (than McKinnon's recent) at the time of the signing ? Gee, I wonder if that matters?

You're skipping over the fact McDavid signed that deal in 2018, when Mac was making $6.3M. McDavid will get $15-17M on his next deal. Their career contract totals aren't even going to be close, so I'd say that's probably a bad comparable.
- RhinoFan

Mac signed at 15.27% of the cap last year.

Because the other deal you refer to was signed before 5 seasons ago, at 1.4% of Cap more (than McKinnon's recent) at the time of the signing ? Gee, I wonder if that matters?
- IonSabres

Neither deal (Mac or Matthews) is team friendly, despite the spin the user with multiple logins is attempting to apply to it.

Mac signed at 15.27% of the cap last year.
- kingcong39

I think you're approaching this as if I am saying they are "signing for little" instead of "signing for less". None of the top players are signing for half or something.

And as I said, we aren't even talking about all the vets that sign for contenders on actual vet minimum contracts either. That happens every year.

Neither deal (Mac or Matthews) is team friendly, despite the spin the user with multiple logins is attempting to apply to it.
- kingcong39

Sorry it hurts your butt.

I think you're approaching this as if I am saying they are "signing for little" instead of "signing for less". None of the top players are signing for half or something.

And as I said, we aren't even talking about all the vets that sign for contenders on actual vet minimum contracts either. That happens every year.
- RhinoFan

You are approaching it as if Matthews could not have asked for and gotten even more than he got, when he could have.

Sorry it hurts your butt.
- RhinoFan

I'm hoping you don't pick a player I like with the track record of the two players you have picked so far.

One left, and the other sustained a serious injury.

this is a weird conversation, no less to get fired up about.

Take 5, here's our top 3 U23 stash. Some questionable player ranks but whatever.

https://theathletic.com/4...ospect-pipeline-rankings/

I'm hoping you don't pick a player I like with the track record of the two players you have picked so far.

One left, and the other sustained a serious injury.
- kingcong39

Be careful, I'll change my name to CongFan and you'll have a protruding bone fractor or torn ACL by day's end.

Agree to disagree my friend, ain't no big thang.

this is a weird conversation, no less to get fired up about.

Take 5, here's our top 3 U23 stash. Some questionable player ranks but whatever.

https://theathletic.com/4...ospect-pipeline-rankings/
- TheSabresTaco

I like seeing Benson that high. Also, an interesting factoid, he comes from a long line of Carnies.

https://buffalonews.com/s...ee-a479-0bfd247fb646.html

https://theathletic.com/4...ospect-pipeline-rankings/
Quality and Quantity, now where do they all fit.

I like seeing Benson that high. Also, an interesting factoid, he comes from a long line of Carnies.

https://buffalonews.com/s...ee-a479-0bfd247fb646.html
- RhinoFan

Be careful, I'll change my name to CongFan and you'll have a protruding bone fractor or torn ACL by day's end.

Agree to disagree my friend, ain't no big thang.
- RhinoFan

Yes, please do not change it, for Jerry Korab's sake.

https://theathletic.com/4794167/2023/08/24/buffalo-sabres-nhl-prospect-pipeline-rankings/
Quality and Quantity, now where do they all fit.
- Buff36

They SHOULD begin to be integrated into the lineup this season, towards the 2nd half I imagine.
Then, they push out guys like Mitts before his higher-priced contract begins to negatively impact the Cap flexibility...like Quinn was supposed to push OloMinus21 out the door.
Soon, Benson pushes Skinner out ...maybe a buyout after the 24-25 season, after playing his 1st season lower inthe line-up.

That is how to keep the contender window open for an extended period.

Is there actual proof of that?
- ImThatGuy

Stamkos.

Last year, Bergeron and Krejci.

Sports Illustrated is no longer a credible organization… absolute bafoonery from them here #BillsMafia

https://twitter.com/TheBi...ByVZfRI-x9324pqltH1Q&s=19

They SHOULD begin to be integrated into the lineup this season, towards the 2nd half I imagine.
Then, they push out guys like Mitts before his higher-priced contract begins to negatively impact the Cap flexibility...like Quinn was supposed to push OloMinus21 out the door.
Soon, Benson pushes Skinner out ...maybe a buyout after the 24-25 season, after playing his 1st season lower inthe line-up.

That is how to keep the contender window open for an extended period.
- IonSabres

Nice, I like your thoughts. Thing that worries me is there are a lot of them, he will have to move a good prospect or 2. I just hope that the right evaluations are done and aren't rushed because of how many.