Banking on Desmith is no sure thing either though. Goalie market has been the Desmiths of the world. The backups.

Top 4 D market was very limited as well. Dont care for Petry at 6.25. Dont care for Petry at all really.
- DirtyDan

He's only costing the Wings $2.3m

Fantastic, I don't consider anyone Contenders until January. Just to many things can happen.
- Buff36

Well NHL players do consider teams contenders in the offseason... especially at the tail end of their careers.

I'll stick with what the professionals think

Well NHL players do consider teams contenders in the offseason... especially at the tail end of their careers.

I'll stick with what the professionals think
- DirtyDan

Well maybe if the Sabres actually tried to look like they were trying to contend it would be different. Guess those Fantastic Top 5 GM moves so far haven't tilted the tied.

He's only costing the Wings $2.3m
- Hank Balling

"Dont care for Petryat all really"

He's 35. He's really no that good to begin with. Giveaway machine.

Good thing Petry isnt totally making less than EJ for his new team…….
- ImThatGuy

Why give up assets for a guy that sucks when you can just sign a guy that sucks for free though?

Why give up assets for a guy that sucks when you can just sign a guy that sucks for free though?
- QuinnFan

Someone post the charts.

Well maybe if the Sabres actually tried to look like they were trying to contend it would be different. Guess those Fantastic Top 5 GM moves so far haven't tilted the tied.
- Buff36

Where'd this top 5 GM sarcasm come from?

"Dont care for Petryat all really"

He's 35. He's really no that good to begin with. Giveaway machine.
- DirtyDan

Yes those 36 last year were horrible along with those 170 hits and 120 blocked shots

Someone post the charts.
- ImThatGuy

Aye aye, cap'n

You don't know enough to say who was available, then how do you know enough to say Adams did a bad job? You're grading a paper without knowing the questions or answers.
- QuinnFan

The ultimate grade will be where the team finishes in the standings, as it is with every GM, unless the mandate from ownership is to spend as little as possible while still getting fans interested enough to buy tickets.

Someone post the charts.
- ImThatGuy

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/j/johnser01.html

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/p/petryje01.html


For as bad as people are calling EJ and Saying Petry would have been the best top 4 addition this offseason... EJ sure does put up better defensive #'s across the board...

Aye aye, cap'n






- Hank Balling

great signing adams


am I doing this right?

Aye aye, cap'n






- Hank Balling

Bump

ats not a bad one, Had to move Olof for him to fit though no?
- DirtyDan

Yeah, move Olofsson's ass right to the bench, where it was stapled to when closing out last season.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/johnser01.html

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/p/petryje01.html


For as bad as people are calling EJ and Saying Petry would have been the best top 4 addition this offseason... EJ sure does put up better defensive #'s across the board...
- DirtyDan

Exactly what metrics are you looking at? Because those links show the exact opposite.

The ultimate grade will be where the team finishes in the standings, as it is with every GM, unless the mandate from ownership is to spend as little as possible while still getting fans interested enough to buy tickets.
- kingcong39

Aye aye, cap'n






- Hank Balling

Right, two god awful players, even worse...someone actually traded assets for one of them. Eeeek.

I digress though, can you post Joker's and Stillman's chart as well? I would just like to see how awful they are in comparison to our other awful defenseman he'd be jockeying for time with. Truly not sure if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine Stillman is within striking distance of that level. No?

Yes those 36 last year were horrible along with those 170 hits and 120 blocked shots
- Buff36

The 603 the 6 years before mean nothing? Seems to me Pittsburgh kept the puck off his shtick

Touche on Quinn, agreed on JJ but the point is there is a very low chance those players are moved as they have been brought up like core players.

A significant amount of forwards and defensemen are considered the core here, moving any of them would surprise us all.

The its just a 4th line replacement and its only 1 year excuses are what losing teams use to justify failing at maximizing each position. With the amount of money spent on players that will be used as depth this season by Adams, it was an overpayment and safe, not what was needed.

To me that indicates that his team fails to properly assess those positions.
- washedup20

Another symptom of bad team management is already slotting players into positions high in the lineup before they have proven that they deserve it.

I am a big Peterka fan, but why do JJ and Quinn deserve to be written into the top 6 in permanent ink?

Aye aye, cap'n






- Hank Balling

bump

Another symptom of bad team management is already slotting players into positions high in the lineup before they have proven that they deserve it.

I am a big Peterka fan, but why do JJ and Quinn deserve to be written into the top 6 in permanent ink?
- kingcong39

Cause that's what happened last year and last year is the only year that means anything going into next year.

"okay Jeff, dont pass the puck before the red line.. dont pass at all really, just give the puck across to Marcus and he'll do everything from there"

Right, two god awful players, even worse...someone actually traded assets for one of them. Eeeek.

I digress though, can you post Stillman's chart as well? I would just like to see how awful they are in comparison to our other awful defenseman he'd be jockeying for time with. Truly not sure if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine he's within swinging distance of that level. No?
- QuinnFan

how is clifton's fancy stats compared to petry?

bump
- homiedclown

Now lets see the raw #'s.

Another symptom of bad team management is already slotting players into positions high in the lineup before they have proven that they deserve it.

I am a big Peterka fan, but why do JJ and Quinn deserve to be written into the top 6 in permanent ink?
- kingcong39

Good point, well said.

Now lets see the raw #'s.
- DirtyDan

Every metric you look at shows EJ as one of the worst defenseman in hockey.

He’s shot. He’s got nothing left.

Colorado fans who love him have said he shouldn’t be anything more than a 7th d-man.