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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
Which is absolutely true, but for some reason the market isn’t there right now.

We can huff and puff about Adams not making the trade yet which is fine but I mean nobody else has made that deal yet either.

The exception being Detroit acquiring Debrincant who essentially forced Ottawa’s band to deal him there.

- Swedish_Jesus

This was a perfect off-season to leave yourself leeway contract wise, especially with the cap room the Sabres had. Instead Adams locked up his 4th line and only left himself 1 open contract. There were and still are Teams hurting Cap wise, Adams had the chance to try and squeeze teams and possibly getting a good player by taking on a contract. Instead he squeezed himself and Know has to dump a contract himself possibly.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
Some players are worth the risk of tampering.
- Lunaion

oh my
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Good post


Preseason should really be fun this year.

Any chance you see cozens play other then 2c?

Mitts seems locked in at 3C.

- Boss34


I said it's wide open for a reason. Mitt's isn't a lock to be a C and could be just about anywhere in the lineup. He could be at any of 6 spots and none would be a shock.

Cozens might be close to a lock. Is there any scenario where he's 1C, 1RW, 2 RW, or 3C? Absolutely
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:42 PM ET
This was a perfect off-season to leave yourself leeway contract wise, especially with the cap room the Sabres had. Instead Adams locked up his 4th line and only left himself 1 open contract. There were and still are Teams hurting Cap wise, Adams had the chance to try and squeeze teams and possibly getting a good player by taking on a contract. Instead he squeezed himself and Know has to dump a contract himself possibly.
- Buff36

if the pens ate 2 mil for the 2 years of petry's deal and throw in the typical second round pick and prospect to take him off their hands

petry at 2 years is a much better player than clifton

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
I said it's wide open for a reason. Mitt's isn't a lock to be a C and could be just about anywhere in the lineup. He could be at any of 6 spots and none would be a shock.
- Lunaion

9 spots

any of the 9 spots

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
9 spots

any of the 9 spots

- homiedclown


Don't think we've ever seen him at RW, so I didn't go there.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 5 @ 12:46 PM ET
I said it's wide open for a reason. Mitt's isn't a lock to be a C and could be just about anywhere in the lineup. He could be at any of 6 spots and none would be a shock.

Cozens might be close to a lock. Is there any scenario where he's 1C, 1RW, 2 RW, or 3C? Absolutely

- Lunaion



That's reasonable.

My feeling : they try and force olofsson into Quinn's role.

Pp time and maybe get his trade value up a bit.

Mitts could slide in with both cozens / peterka too.

Feels like
Tage
Cozens
Mitts

To me anyways. Mitts looked solid late last year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
Don't think we've ever seen him at RW, so I didn't go there.
- Lunaion

I thought he played RW for team canada
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
That's reasonable.

My feeling : they try and force olofsson into Quinn's role.

Pp time and maybe get his trade value up a bit.

Mitts could slide in with both cozens / peterka too.

Feels like
Tage
Cozens
Mitts

To me anyways. Mitts looked solid late last year

- Boss34


I think they are done caring about his trade value. Sunk cost at this point, worry about winning.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 12:51 PM ET
I thought he played RW for team canada
- homiedclown


Aren't we talking about Mitts?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 5 @ 12:53 PM ET
I think they are done caring about his trade value. Sunk cost at this point, worry about winning.
- Lunaion


I agree with you, but Adam's isnt thinking that way IMO.

Olo would be traded by now if they weren't worried about return value.

Having olofsson score 28 more = winning
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
I appreciate your post.

2 sides to every discussion.

I honestly think the quinn injury makes management more likely to hold olofsson on the roster.

Sure , I mix in some trolling too....

Didnt you hate , absolutely hate the Quinn pick?

- Boss34

Reply containing “at the time”, “absolutely” and/or “narrative” incoming.

I got a charity you can donate that money to. Let me know if you want my paypal and I’ll PM it to you.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 5 @ 1:04 PM ET
I thought the tone of the clown's post was disingenuous, but please see my post above.
- TheSabresTaco


I did see your post after I posted mine as it appears we were both writing at the same time.
It clears up much of what seemed like in your previous post that you were 100% on the same page so far this offseason as Adams a tions to date.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
sharks got duclair for next to nothing

he would have fit perfectly on cozens wing given the quinn injury

- homiedclown


Duclair is another one dimensional winger though.

He doesn’t fit the 200 foot mold that we would need.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
This was a perfect off-season to leave yourself leeway contract wise, especially with the cap room the Sabres had. Instead Adams locked up his 4th line and only left himself 1 open contract. There were and still are Teams hurting Cap wise, Adams had the chance to try and squeeze teams and possibly getting a good player by taking on a contract. Instead he squeezed himself and Know has to dump a contract himself possibly.
- Buff36


Sending Bryson down frees up another ~$1M.

We have roughly $7M-8M available, I don’t think he’s closed himself off of anything.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
I agree with you, but Adam's isnt thinking that way IMO.

Olo would be traded by now if they weren't worried about return value.

Having olofsson score 28 more = winning

- Boss34


Don't think you can read that into KA's actions. No way selling at the deadline is on his mind right now.

VO cost them games last year. Really not arguable.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Sending Bryson down frees up another ~$1M.

We have roughly $7M-8M available, I don’t think he’s closed himself off of anything.

- Swedish_Jesus

What do you mean, most teams can't take on another contract, Sabres really can't unless they can dump one. He can't take on a extra contract if need be to get said player.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
Don't think you can read that into KA's actions. No way selling at the deadline is on his mind right now.

VO cost them games last year. Really not arguable.

- Lunaion


Sabres record Olofsson played last season:

38-32-5

81 points in 75 games...For a full 82 game season that comes out to 88.5 points

In those 38 games they won he scored in 15 of those games. In those 38 games he was a +1.

Victor Oloffson in the lineup does not equal winning. In other words, 13 goals in the 37 losses, and a minus 24 in those losses.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Aren't we talking about Mitts?
- Lunaion

yes the 2018 world jrs held in buffalo

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Let's talk this out.

I'd like to wager starts or wins for levi.

Friendly bet, but something fun.

- Boss34



“ The average number of regular-season games for Cup-winning goalies since then is 44, though that includes Matt Murray playing 13 NHL games in 2016 and not the 31 games he played in the American Hockey League before winning the Cup for the first time as a late-season call up in Pittsburgh.”

https://www.nhl.com/news/...f-bound-teams/c-303785014

Let’s bet the phenom plays the Stanley cup winning average, 44.

He has to win 32 of them.

Bet total $500, with $100 deposit to stripes for good faith, individual wins pays out $250.

Let me know what you think.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sabres record Olofsson played last season:

38-32-5

81 points in 75 games...For a full 82 game season that comes out to 88.5 points

In those 38 games they won he scored in 15 of those games. In those 38 games he was a +1.

Victor Oloffson in the lineup does not equal winning. In other words, 13 goals in the 37 losses, and a minus 24 in those losses.

- Stripes77


GF% (5v5)
Bryson 33%
VO 39%
Girgs 42%
Peterka 43%
Fitz 44%
Jost 44%

Even when you include the PP, he barely gets back to even.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:55 PM ET
Duclair is another one dimensional winger though.

He doesn’t fit the 200 foot mold that we would need.

- Swedish_Jesus

his 2 way game is miles ahead of olofsson which is the current plan B

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
yes the 2018 world jrs held in buffalo
- homiedclown


OK, you said Team Canada. Got a little confusing.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
Reply containing “at the time”, “absolutely” and/or “narrative” incoming.

I got a charity you can donate that money to. Let me know if you want my paypal and I’ll PM it to you.


- Hatboro_Swords


Good post
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
OK, you said Team Canada. Got a little confusing.
- Lunaion

brain freeze/senior moment

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