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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
One thing I have learned over the past couple of years is that the future is not certain. I don’t think St. Louis fans are upset at losing Tage Thompson in the Ryan O’Reilly trade, especially considering they won a Stanley Cup. This is an all-in year for the Jets.
- TheUltimateJet

How about Florida going all in last year and now have no picks for three years and Montreal may win the chance at Bedard with Florida's pick. Do you think they'd be happy trading Ben Chairot for Connor Bedard?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
PLD eligible to re-sign now if he wants to - and "if he wants to" are the key words. PLD was pretty happy with the Jets signing Stenlund. Won't be the key factor obviously but every little thing might help.

Got to believe that Scheif will want to test the waters if he is still here after next season, but that's just my gut feeling. Hopefully if PLD re-signs, Scheif will follow suit. Otherwise we may have some combo of Lucius, Chibrikov and Zhilkin in a couple of years - barring a trade.

Could Perfetti move to the middle?

- grahamzky

i think Lucious is out only true Center prospect.

as for PLD, he will not sign long term here, wont happen. we have to hope PLD's camp sees a rare opportunity to cash in twice!! with the cap expected to go up a lot in the next few years. PLD could sign a 3 year 8-9 mil deal here and then sign a long term deal wherever he wants for possible 11+ after that.

as for Sheif and Helle, if they are not extended this summer, they both have to be moved, can not let them walk for free.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
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jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 6 @ 6:08 PM ET
How about throwing in a third-round pick and grabbing Ryan Merkeley as an excellent prospect for a few years out? .... Or just a change of scenery type trade such as Merkely for Vesalianen.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...-trade-request/280/120184

Also I did like Mikey Eyssimont on the third and fourth lines. Sad to lose him to a team that has put Merkley on the block. Maybe Ves and Eyss would have worked or EYss and a third.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
How about Florida going all in last year and now have no picks for three years and Montreal may win the chance at Bedard with Florida's pick. Do you think they'd be happy trading Ben Chairot for Connor Bedard?
- Ross77


I think there is a difference between going for Chariot as opposed to O’Reilly/Horvat. But we can agree to disagree.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
Further to Vrana.....during Vrana's best seasons with Washington, Arniel was an assistant coach. Scotty knows everything there is to know about Vrana.



Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 7 @ 8:33 PM ET
I think there is a difference between going for Chariot as opposed to O’Reilly/Horvat. But we can agree to disagree.
- TheUltimateJet

Chairot was not the only player they went all in for, Girioux was also acquired, and he fits the oriely/ Horvat bill.
My point was, a lot of teams sell the farm
To go all in and it doesn’t work often.
I think the jets should make some moves, but be careful is all. Dont pull a Florida
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
Chairot was not the only player they went all in for, Girioux was also acquired, and he fits the oriely/ Horvat bill.
My point was, a lot of teams sell the farm
To go all in and it doesn’t work often.
I think the jets should make some moves, but be careful is all. Dont pull a Florida

- Ross77


The question is when to go all-in. Look at the standings in the west, not one team in this conference scares me. This is the reason you go all-in and I say sell the farm this year (trade Lucius and Heinola if you have to). If the Jets do not win the cup then they can trade the Scheifele’s, PLD’s, Hellebyuck’s to rebuild the farm and fast. I am sure there would be lots of teams willing to give up A+ prospects and picks to get those players (even if all those guys are on one year deals). This year it makes the most sense to do so.

The Jets this year have 2 point per game centers (like I always say center depth wins championships). A potential Norris trophy winning defenseman in Morrissey and a potential Vezina trophy winning goalie in Hellebyuck. If this is not the year to go all-in then there will never be a good year to go all-in.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:17 PM ET
The question is when to go all-in. Look at the standings in the west, not one team in this conference scares me. This is the reason you go all-in and I say sell the farm this year (trade Lucius and Heinola if you have to). If the Jets do not win the cup then they can trade the Scheifele’s, PLD’s, Hellebyuck’s to rebuild the farm and fast. I am sure there would be lots of teams willing to give up A+ prospects and picks to get those players (even if all those guys are on one year deals). This year it makes the most sense to do so.

The Jets this year have 2 point per game centers (like I always say center depth wins championships). A potential Norris trophy winning defenseman in Morrissey and a potential Vezina trophy winning goalie in Hellebyuck. If this is not the year to go all-in then there will never be a good year to go all-in.

- TheUltimateJet


The Bruins have only lost 4 games this year as we approach the halfway mark. with a +60 goal differential. To put that in perspective, the 76-78 Habs had the greatest three consecutive seasons ever ( 10,8, & 11 losses respectively) and the Great 95-96 Red Wings only lost 13 games. If the Bruins keep the same pace then they will easily rank as one of the best teams ever.

So, as good a season as the Jets are having , them going all in this season as arguably the NHL's 5th or 6th best team right now , does not actually present great odds of winning so long as the other top teams do a trade or two as well. The three teams that scare me most are the Bruins ( who we lost to on a fluke goal) , the Hurricanes (+364 shot differential...crazy ), and surprisingly the Wild. Devils are also no pushover. The Jets are a -56 shot differential, that's a problem.

I therefore agree with Ross that the type of deal Chevy needs to make is a careful one, something where the overall cost isn't overly painful. Upgrades but without selling the farm and then hope that the team rises to the occasion and the bounces go our way in the playoffs.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 8 @ 4:12 AM ET
The question is when to go all-in. Look at the standings in the west, not one team in this conference scares me. This is the reason you go all-in and I say sell the farm this year (trade Lucius and Heinola if you have to). If the Jets do not win the cup then they can trade the Scheifele’s, PLD’s, Hellebyuck’s to rebuild the farm and fast. I am sure there would be lots of teams willing to give up A+ prospects and picks to get those players (even if all those guys are on one year deals). This year it makes the most sense to do so.

The Jets this year have 2 point per game centers (like I always say center depth wins championships). A potential Norris trophy winning defenseman in Morrissey and a potential Vezina trophy winning goalie in Hellebyuck. If this is not the year to go all-in then there will never be a good year to go all-in.

- TheUltimateJet


The Jets should be buying low on a top 6 forward, and selling Pionk. If you can go 1 for 1 on that, you win.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 8 @ 11:09 AM ET
The Bruins have only lost 4 games this year as we approach the halfway mark. with a +60 goal differential. To put that in perspective, the 76-78 Habs had the greatest three consecutive seasons ever ( 10,8, & 11 losses respectively) and the Great 95-96 Red Wings only lost 13 games. If the Bruins keep the same pace then they will easily rank as one of the best teams ever.

So, as good a season as the Jets are having , them going all in this season as arguably the NHL's 5th or 6th best team right now , does not actually present great odds of winning so long as the other top teams do a trade or two as well. The three teams that scare me most are the Bruins ( who we lost to on a fluke goal) , the Hurricanes (+364 shot differential...crazy ), and surprisingly the Wild. Devils are also no pushover. The Jets are a -56 shot differential, that's a problem.

I therefore agree with Ross that the type of deal Chevy needs to make is a careful one, something where the overall cost isn't overly painful. Upgrades but without selling the farm and then hope that the team rises to the occasion and the bounces go our way in the playoffs.

- jetsnation


Would agree with this assessment - and Ross - check out what's available, make an upgrade, but be careful! We could make a major deal, then have Hellebuyck go down, and then we are in deep "cauca." Lose our MVP and we're "done like dinner."

Yes, it seems we have a pretty good team, but so do, as stated, Boston, Carolina, the Rangers, Leafs, Stars, and let's not forget the defending champion Avs. They will be charging once they get Landeskog back. And there are other contenders. Not a slam dunk for anyone.

My thoughts are wait until near, or at, the trade deadline, and if it still looks good, make a safe trade. Don't be giving up any 1st rounders, but perhaps a prospect - but let's not forget that Tage Thompson was considered a "B" prospect (unbelievable) when traded so scouts can be wrong.

Looks like we're fine down the middle, but a scoring winger or upgrade on the blue-line should be considered. But let's not sell the farm. For every Ryan O'Reilly there is a Kevim Hayes or Claude Giroux, as previously mentioned. Only one team can win The Cup!


Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 8 @ 7:14 PM ET
The Jets should be buying low on a top 6 forward, and selling Pionk. If you can go 1 for 1 on that, you win.
- Rexypoo

There is a rumour that Florida has a standing offer on the table for Reinhardt.
I’d love for that to be Pionk!! Maybe we have to take Gudas (pending UFA) as well or something but I can get on board with;
81-80-27
91-55-Reinhardt
Barron-17-26
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 8 @ 8:54 PM ET
Imagine how good the Bruins would be if they hadn't royally screwed up in the 2015 draft.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
The Bruins have only lost 4 games this year as we approach the halfway mark. with a +60 goal differential. To put that in perspective, the 76-78 Habs had the greatest three consecutive seasons ever ( 10,8, & 11 losses respectively) and the Great 95-96 Red Wings only lost 13 games. If the Bruins keep the same pace then they will easily rank as one of the best teams ever.

So, as good a season as the Jets are having , them going all in this season as arguably the NHL's 5th or 6th best team right now , does not actually present great odds of winning so long as the other top teams do a trade or two as well. The three teams that scare me most are the Bruins ( who we lost to on a fluke goal) , the Hurricanes (+364 shot differential...crazy ), and surprisingly the Wild. Devils are also no pushover. The Jets are a -56 shot differential, that's a problem.

I therefore agree with Ross that the type of deal Chevy needs to make is a careful one, something where the overall cost isn't overly painful. Upgrades but without selling the farm and then hope that the team rises to the occasion and the bounces go our way in the playoffs.

- jetsnation


The teams mentioned here are all Eastern Conference teams. If the Jets make the finals, the all-in trade is definitely worth it. Anything can happen in a 7 game series, especially if these Eastern teams end up beating each other up along the way.

I think we are in agreement that the west is weak!
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
Tough game for the goalie……. can’t expect a win with a .727 game. Would you pull the goalie after 4? It was obvious it was shaping up to be bad game for him……. I think he should have been yanked after 4.

Good bounce back game for Gustafson…. a few games in the presser likely was good for him to see the game from above.

Pastor_Matt
Joined: 03.05.2018

Jan 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
Tough game for the goalie……. can’t expect a win with a .727 game. Would you pull the goalie after 4? It was obvious it was shaping up to be bad game for him……. I think he should have been yanked after 4.

Good bounce back game for Gustafson…. a few games in the presser likely was good for him to see the game from above.

- Old Flopper
I would have pulled him, but not surprized he wasn't pulled.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:17 PM ET
Tough game for the goalie……. can’t expect a win with a .727 game. Would you pull the goalie after 4? It was obvious it was shaping up to be bad game for him……. I think he should have been yanked after 4.

Good bounce back game for Gustafson…. a few games in the presser likely was good for him to see the game from above.

- Old Flopper


No, I wouldn't have yanked him -- unless he wanted to come out.

If he didn't want to come out, leave him, he was playing in front of his home state fans and would have been embarrassed.

Don't want to pee him off, he has been/is our MVP for several seasons and will bounce back. But we need a happy goalie going forward if we are to have any success.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
Are we getting Hellebuyck tonight?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
Are we getting Hellebuyck tonight?
- lacaprup


Hopefully!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 3:10 PM ET
There is a rumour that Florida has a standing offer on the table for Reinhardt.
I’d love for that to be Pionk!! Maybe we have to take Gudas (pending UFA) as well or something but I can get on board with;
81-80-27
91-55-Reinhardt
Barron-17-26

- Ross77


I heard the rumour first from you Ross - but seeing lots of it out there now. I agree that Pionk would be a better trade for the Jets. Florida might prefer Dillon - and that would work for me if Gudas were part of the return along with Reinhart.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 12 @ 6:59 PM ET
If I could pick one single player I'd absolutely love to see on the Jets in a trade deal that could really make the difference and make the Jets SERIOUS cup contenders it would be RW Timo Meier ( a former Ehlers linemate ). I understand that he would be seriously expensive as every contending team would want him but this guy is great at every aspect of the game and would be perfect on RW with Ehlers and left and take your pick of Scheif or Dubois at center. Throw Perfetti on the third line and suddenly we have an unreal lineup.

The jets have a 1st round draft pick and lots of prospects to offer.

I just drool at the thought.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jan 12 @ 7:53 PM ET
If I could pick one single player I'd absolutely love to see on the Jets in a trade deal that could really make the difference and make the Jets SERIOUS cup contenders it would be RW Timo Meier ( a former Ehlers linemate ). I understand that he would be seriously expensive as every contending team would want him but this guy is great at every aspect of the game and would be perfect on RW with Ehlers and left and take your pick of Scheif or Dubois at center. Throw Perfetti on the third line and suddenly we have an unreal lineup.

The jets have a 1st round draft pick and lots of prospects to offer.

I just drool at the thought.

- jetsnation


He is a point per game player on a weak team........ would be a great addition.

6 1 220. Last year of his 6 mill cap hit contract but actual is 10?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 13 @ 7:16 AM ET
I sat 13 rows up from Hellebuyck's blueline last night. I'm not telling any of you something you don't know: this guy is fantastic. So calm, so big, so good.

I'm real jealous.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
He is a point per game player on a weak team........ would be a great addition.

6 1 220. Last year of his 6 mill cap hit contract but actual is 10?

- Old Flopper


I think we should get both Meir and Karlsson.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 13 @ 3:32 PM ET
I think we should get both Meir and Karlsson.
- TheUltimateJet


So how are you making cap room? Not just this season, but going forward.
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