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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
You wouldn't notice him here. No way am i giving a 1st and take a 5.8 cap dump for him.
- Mentalorgasm5

Brayden Point
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 1:32 PM ET
pretty sure Ottawa would want gourde in return, plus another couple of pieced from tampa, maybe even sergachev or foote, plus.

that's where the sabres might come into play with a first and a player like Nylander who might be of interest to them

- Michael Pachla


What I don't understand is why Ottawa needs to water down their return for Karlsson by getting another team to eat some money from Tampa. They have plenty of cap space to do it themselves.

So this is all because Melnyk is a cheap ass?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:32 PM ET
pretty sure Ottawa would want gourde in return, plus another couple of pieced from tampa, maybe even sergachev or foote, plus.

that's where the sabres might come into play with a first and a player like Nylander who might be of interest to them

- Michael Pachla

if we are giving up a first and stinklander

we need Anton Stralman(rental) and Point IMO
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
What I don't understand is why Ottawa needs to water down their return for Karlsson by getting another team to eat some money from Tampa. They have plenty of cap space to do it themselves.

So this is all because Melnyk is a cheap ass?

- jcragcrumple

I dont think it's about being cheap

he offered Karlsson 80 mil

honestly the contract should be 10-11.5 so it wasn't low balled
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
Throw Girgensons to Tampa, and Larsson to Ottawa

To Tampa

Karlsson
Girgensons

To Buffalo
Callahan
Gourde

To Ott:
TB 1st
TB 2nd
St. Louis First
Larsson
Tampa prospect

- jcragcrumple



Last thing we need is Callahan.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
I dont think it's about being cheap

he offered Karlsson 80 mil

honestly the contract should be 10-11.5 so it wasn't low balled

- homiedclown


Why involve another team then? Ottawa could easily take Callahan or anyone else. Unless Callahan is refusing to waive to go there, which, yep, that checks out
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
What I don't understand is why Ottawa needs to water down their return for Karlsson by getting another team to eat some money from Tampa. They have plenty of cap space to do it themselves.

So this is all because Melnyk is a cheap ass?

- jcragcrumple


apparently...there were reports that the team was bleeding money (and had been for years) and might be up for sale
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
if we are giving up a first and stinklander

we need Anton Stralman(rental) and Point IMO

- homiedclown

modified ntc for stralman...and i'd take point but I don't think they'd want to part with him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
Last thing we need is Callahan.
- dadeadhead

agreed


if we are helping make it happen, we are getting quality back


AND F@CK THE SENS
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
agreed


if we are helping make it happen, we are getting quality back


AND F@CK THE SENS

- homiedclown



Twice........,
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
I dont think it's about being cheap

he offered Karlsson 80 mil

honestly the contract should be 10-11.5 so it wasn't low balled

- homiedclown

generally viewed as an offer he knew karlsson wouldn't accept but large enough to placate the fanbase
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
modified ntc for stralman...and i'd take point but I don't think they'd want to part with him
- Michael Pachla

if they want to add a top 3 d man in the entire nhl


they are going to have to part with good stuff

a lot of good stuff
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:39 PM ET
agreed


if we are helping make it happen, we are getting quality back


AND F@CK THE SENS

- homiedclown


we don't need to eff the sens, they're doin a pretty good job of it themselves
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
generally viewed as an offer he knew karlsson wouldn't accept but large enough to placate the fanbase
- Michael Pachla

doughty got 11


Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
if they want to add a top 3 d man in the entire nhl


they are going to have to part with good stuff

a lot of good stuff

- homiedclown


yup
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
Looking at a few rosters, I would look to a few teams that have a lot of room to add contracts and send 3 players for one type of deal.

WPG 16 players signed 30 contracts (7 RFAs to sign)

CGY 18 players signed 35 contracts (8 RFAs to sign)

NYR 16 players signed 37 contracts (7 RFAs to sign)

Of the 3, Calgary has the least amount of cap space available and Winnipeg has the most. Obviously the NYR are the worse team out of the 3 and may be looking for a combination of vets and younger pieces to rebuild on the fly (Lunqvist is getting too old for a full rebuild.)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
Last thing we need is Callahan.
- dadeadhead


I thought Gourde was an RFA, not a UFA. I retract any and all offers that may or may not have ever existed
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
doughty got 11
- homiedclown

I get it, but they knew he wasn't going to sign that to stay in ottawa
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
We dont necessarily need to be a part of a 3 way trade.

We could just as easily work something else out after the dust settles
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
we don't need to eff the sens, they're doin a pretty good job of it themselves
- Michael Pachla



So.......

Fvckem
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
we don't need to eff the sens, they're doin a pretty good job of it themselves
- Michael Pachla

gonna be fun watching them, the habs and the islanders battle for last in the east
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
I get it, but they knew he wasn't going to sign that to stay in ottawa
- Michael Pachla

honestly that team will be moved to Quebec within 3 years anyhow
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
gonna be fun watching them, the habs and the islanders battle for last in the east
- homiedclown




Price will keep the habs respectable.

Islanders still have good players


Ottawa is a tire fire.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
honestly that team will be moved to Quebec within 3 years anyhow
- homiedclown


The Bettman will never let that happen. Houston or Kansas City will get a team before Quebec gets a sniff
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
honestly that team will be moved to Quebec within 3 years anyhow
- homiedclown

I thought Carolina was headed there?
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