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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
Maybe two ways to look at it, he’s from Rochester so it wouldn’t stun me to see Buffalo, NYR, NYI, Devils and maybe Boston on his list.

Or he’s 35 and put just teams he thinks has a shot at a cup on his list, not a lot of contenders with cap space and room in their bottom 6 for Callahan though.

- smellmyfinger

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
Maybe two ways to look at it, he’s from Rochester so it wouldn’t stun me to see Buffalo, NYR, NYI, Devils and maybe Boston on his list.

Or he’s 35 and put just teams he thinks has a shot at a cup on his list, not a lot of contenders with cap space and room in their bottom 6 for Callahan though.

- smellmyfinger

Buffalo or jersey sounds more likely
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
Funny when discussing guys on the move how they want to go to a contender. Nobody ever looks at guys on a contender and think do they really want to leave and go to a loser?
- junaka3

Buddy, this is where all this talk comes. Please, please.

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Tampa Bay and Ottawa continue to work on an Erik Karlsson trade. The NYR may be involved as Lightning need cap room. Callahan back to NY?

6:58 PM - 5 Jul 2018
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jul 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
Maybe two ways to look at it, he’s from Rochester so it wouldn’t stun me to see Buffalo, NYR, NYI, Devils and maybe Boston on his list.

Or he’s 35 and put just teams he thinks has a shot at a cup on his list, not a lot of contenders with cap space and room in their bottom 6 for Callahan though.

- smellmyfinger

I don’t know why we’d take him, he’s making almost as much as Karlsson next year. Why not just try and get Karlsson? Accumulating draft picks doesn’t appeal to me.. as Jan said, how long does this rebuild last? Future picks won’t see nhl until at least 3-4 years from now, with no guarentee they ever develop into anything. Do people realize Kreider is only a year younger Karlsson? Core guys on our team: Zib, Kreider, Hayes,Fast,Namestikov are all 25-27 years old. Are we going to just waste their prime years? If so, why aren’t we asking Staal and Hank to waive their ntc’s. How about moving Shatty and Zuc
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
I don’t know why we’d take him, he’s making almost as much as Karlsson next year. Why not just try and get Karlsson? Accumulating draft picks doesn’t appeal to me.. as Jan said, how long does this rebuild last? Future picks won’t see nhl until at least 3-4 years from now, with no guarentee they ever develop into anything. Do people realize Kreider is only a year younger Karlsson? Core guys on our team: Zib, Kreider, Hayes,Fast,Namestikov are all 25-27 years old. Are we going to just waste their prime years? If so, why aren’t we asking Staal and Hank to waive their ntc’s. How about moving Shatty and Zuc
- junaka3

What about when Karlsson is making 12 million next year and for the next 8 years until he’s 37
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
The point of taking Callahan back is to put him on the 4th line and get a good prospect in return, not to make the team better this year.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don’t know why we’d take him, he’s making almost as much as Karlsson next year. Why not just try and get Karlsson? Accumulating draft picks doesn’t appeal to me.. as Jan said, how long does this rebuild last? Future picks won’t see nhl until at least 3-4 years from now, with no guarentee they ever develop into anything. Do people realize Kreider is only a year younger Karlsson? Core guys on our team: Zib, Kreider, Hayes,Fast,Namestikov are all 25-27 years old. Are we going to just waste their prime years? If so, why aren’t we asking Staal and Hank to waive their ntc’s. How about moving Shatty and Zuc
- junaka3


Well I don't want Cally for another go around, but taking Cally will give us assets, trying to get Karlsson for 1 year would be losing assets. It makes no sense trying to get Karlsson for 1 year and losing assets when they really aren't going to be competitive. If Karlsson doesn't re-sign it means you gave up some good player/picks for 1 year of nothing. Makes no sense
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don’t know why we’d take him, he’s making almost as much as Karlsson next year. Why not just try and get Karlsson? Accumulating draft picks doesn’t appeal to me.. as Jan said, how long does this rebuild last? Future picks won’t see nhl until at least 3-4 years from now, with no guarentee they ever develop into anything. Do people realize Kreider is only a year younger Karlsson? Core guys on our team: Zib, Kreider, Hayes,Fast,Namestikov are all 25-27 years old. Are we going to just waste their prime years? If so, why aren’t we asking Staal and Hank to waive their ntc’s. How about moving Shatty and Zuc
- junaka3



Because it’s free assets for cap space. Callahan’s contract lasts two more years, you think the Rangers come close to cap ceiling before then?
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
Buddy, this is where all this talk comes. Please, please.

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Tampa Bay and Ottawa continue to work on an Erik Karlsson trade. The NYR may be involved as Lightning need cap room. Callahan back to NY?

6:58 PM - 5 Jul 2018

- tomburton99

Buddy, they’re rumors. My question is if Cally has any say, why would he want to leave Tampa?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don’t know why we’d take him, he’s making almost as much as Karlsson next year. Why not just try and get Karlsson? Accumulating draft picks doesn’t appeal to me.. as Jan said, how long does this rebuild last? Future picks won’t see nhl until at least 3-4 years from now, with no guarentee they ever develop into anything. Do people realize Kreider is only a year younger Karlsson? Core guys on our team: Zib, Kreider, Hayes,Fast,Namestikov are all 25-27 years old. Are we going to just waste their prime years? If so, why aren’t we asking Staal and Hank to waive their ntc’s. How about moving Shatty and Zuc
- junaka3

The rebuild just started for crying out loud. It doesn’t happen over night.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
What's the latest, have we signed Cally to an extension yet?
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
What about when Karlsson is making 12 million next year and for the next 8 years until he’s 37
- nyrangers9479


Oh stick your FACTS up your Arse!!! LOL
You are ruining his argument
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
Buddy, they’re rumors. My question is if Cally has any say, why would he want to leave Tampa?
- junaka3

He has a limited no trade clause, he has very little say, he's coming home and I don't mind it as long as we get Taylor Raddysh and a pick back, (frank) take Coburn too, aid the 'Lose for Huges" and still provide a good leadership mentor with Cally, win win
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
Well I don't want Cally for another go around, but taking Cally will give us assets, trying to get Karlsson for 1 year would be losing assets. It makes no sense trying to get Karlsson for 1 year and losing assets when they really aren't going to be competitive. If Karlsson doesn't re-sign it means you gave up some good player/picks for 1 year of nothing. Makes no sense
- mdw7413

Obviously nobody is trading for Karlsson without agreeing on extension. Teams make money in playoffs. There’s no trophy for having most picks and prospects.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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Jul 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
What's the latest, have we signed Cally to an extension yet?
- KreiderBomb


Kuch is on the Rangers private plane to Teterboro . Cally is taking the train
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Buddy, they’re rumors. My question is if Cally has any say, why would he want to leave Tampa?
- junaka3


Its not his choice.. if they want to trade him they have the right to, so long as the team that they are trading him to is on his list.

Pretty sure Gretzky didn't want to go to the St. Louis Blues..... but he wound up there

Do you think Tavares wanted to go to the Maple Le.... oh forget that.. bad example.. #ChildhoodDream
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
Kuch is on the Rangers private plane to Teterboro . Cally is taking the train
- mdw7413


Express or Local?
Is this him in the white shirt in the background?
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
He has a limited no trade clause, he has very little say, he's coming home and I don't mind it as long as we get Taylor Raddysh and a pick back, (frank) take Coburn too, aid the 'Lose for Huges" and still provide a good leadership mentor with Cally, win win
- KreiderBomb

My original post: has anyone heard has he given a list! He has a 16 team no trade list. If he doesn’t want to go , he would just need to have Rangers on that list.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
Obviously nobody is trading for Karlsson without agreeing on extension. Teams make money in playoffs. There’s no trophy for having most picks and prospects.
- junaka3

Pittsburgh, built through the draft. Chcuago, built through the draft, Washington, built through the draft. LA built through the draft.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Obviously nobody is trading for Karlsson without agreeing on extension. Teams make money in playoffs. There’s no trophy for having most picks and prospects.
- junaka3


So you think just getting Karlsson puts the Rangers as a cup favorite?

The Rangers have tried over the last decade to get the best player at the TDL or UFA. It hasn't got them a cup and depleted their farm system. I had no problem with it when they were going for it, but at a certain time every team has to go through a rebuild to replenish the team. Thats what they are doing now, and I have no issue with it. If you aren't a patient person, probably not going to be the best time to be a Rangers fan.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Someone tell me how is a rebuild is taking to long if it only started 6 months ago?
Ok if you wanna give me the Stepan trade its 18 months ago. But regardless, have some patience for (frank)s sake Jesus
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Express or Local?
Is this him in the white shirt in the background?

- MiloslavHorava

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
So you think just getting Karlsson puts the Rangers as a cup favorite?

The Rangers have tried over the last decade to get the best player at the TDL or UFA. It hasn't got them a cup and depleted their farm system. I had no problem with it when they were going for it, but at a certain time every team has to go through a rebuild to replenish the team. Thats what they are doing now, and I have no issue with it. If you aren't a patient person, probably not going to be the best time to be a Rangers fan.

- mdw7413

You’ve subtlety bashed Nash, congrats and welcome to the club
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Someone tell me how is a rebuild is taking to long if it only started 6 months ago?
Ok if you wanna give me the Stepan trade its 18 months ago. But regardless, have some patience for (frank)s sake Jesus

- Slimtj100

It really is amazing people can't grasp this.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jul 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
Obviously nobody is trading for Karlsson without agreeing on extension. Teams make money in playoffs. There’s no trophy for having most picks and prospects.
- junaka3


If we stop worrying about picks and prospects then in 7-10 years we are right back into another rebuild.
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