Tampa doesn't need to trade Kucherov anytime soon even if they acquired Karlsson

his cap hit 4.7 mil this year and that's gold for a team making every attempt to win the Cup now

after the season, yeah, major cap issues trying to get Kucherov to fit

but, it wouldn't make sense for them to trade him now for a package of Ranger prospects
- jimbro83

Karlsson and Kucherov in a 3-way trade is pure 'trade-porn'

How dare they do a rebuild the right way and not listen to the fans who have actually no real idea what the "right" way is.


Holy crap...I could see if it was year 3, or even year two of the rebuild and people were getting ancey, but Year 1 +3 months!!? Chill brotha

There will be plenty of FA's in the future!

Seguin, Wheeler, and on and on and on .

If Gorton builds it....they will come
- rrentz

rebuild TODAY can be worst to first,how bout Dolan is selling off sports teams
and an attractive sell pt is no BAD deals to pass on to new group , wants new owners with a clean slate to get better $$$
we get a non competitive season cause Dolan dosnt want to compete .....

GET OUT YOU PIG BASTARD , YOU HAVE TRIED TO RUIN PRO SPORTS IN BASKETBALL & CAME CLOSE IN HOCKEY ,NOW CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR MONEY HOLE AND INDULGE YOURSELF AT OUR EXPENSE ... NO WINNNIG HOCKEY IN NY

GREAT SEEYA ON THAT REBUILD IN 19--20 ..O MG

stupid deal ? give up Kucherov to get Karllson ?

where the win win for T B ? this is just Porn as i have read

buying up useless contracts ,Thats our teams BIG investment for 18-19

cmon HOssa , Horton ,ANy other LTR deal out there

we got a college bunch of guys ready willing and able to LEARN AT OUR EXPENSE

rebuild TODAY can be worst to first,how bout Dolan is selling off sports teams
and an attractive sell pt is no BAD deals to pass on to new group , wants new owners with a clean slate to get better $$$
we get a non competitive season cause Dolan dosnt want to compete .....

GET OUT YOU PIG BASTARD , YOU HAVE TRIED TO RUIN PRO SPORTS IN BASKETBALL & CAME CLOSE IN HOCKEY ,NOW CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR MONEY HOLE AND INDULGE YOURSELF AT OUR EXPENSE ... NO WINNNIG HOCKEY IN NY

GREAT SEEYA ON THAT REBUILD IN 19--20 ..O MG
- Dundee13

stupid deal ? give up Kucherov to get Karllson ?

where the win win for T B ? this is just Porn as i have read

buying up useless contracts ,Thats our teams BIG investment for 18-19

cmon HOssa , Horton ,ANy other LTR deal out there

we got a college bunch of guys ready willing and able to LEARN AT OUR EXPENSE


- Dundee13

rebuild TODAY can be worst to first,how bout Dolan is selling off sports teams
and an attractive sell pt is no BAD deals to pass on to new group , wants new owners with a clean slate to get better $$$
we get a non competitive season cause Dolan dosnt want to compete .....

GET OUT YOU PIG BASTARD , YOU HAVE TRIED TO RUIN PRO SPORTS IN BASKETBALL & CAME CLOSE IN HOCKEY ,NOW CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR MONEY HOLE AND INDULGE YOURSELF AT OUR EXPENSE ... NO WINNNIG HOCKEY IN NY

GREAT SEEYA ON THAT REBUILD IN 19--20 ..O MG
- Dundee13

- jimbro83

Look, you're the one trying to sell Zib as something he is not. He is very good, imo. I have no problem with him being on the team. Just don't say he's a true 1C.
- gravey914

He is the Rangers #1, whether you want to call him that or not. What I’ve said from beginning, is he’s just hitting his prime and I think he’s capable of putting up at least 60 points if he can finally stay healthy. Having a pure goal scorer with him would help his assist totals. He did score 27 goals last year even missing 10 games. Compare that to all the guys you consider legit #1’s. Zib has a good combo of speed, size and skill. If he was playing with elite wingers he’d have a lot more points

He is the Rangers #1, whether you want to call him that or not. What I’ve said from beginning, is he’s just hitting his prime and I think he’s capable of putting up at least 60 points if he can finally stay healthy. Having a pure goal scorer with him would help his assist totals. He did score 27 goals last year even missing 10 games. Compare that to all the guys you consider legit #1’s. Zib has a good combo of speed, size and skill. If he was playing with elite wingers he’d have a lot more points
- junaka3

Him being the Rangers #1 center has noting to do with him being a bonafide, league wide viewed #1 Center. Not even close. The stats prove otherwise.

As for the 60 point remark, he would have need 13 points in the 10 games he missed to reach that mark.

Him being the Rangers #1 center has noting to do with him being a bonafide, league wide viewed #1 Center. Not even close. The stats prove otherwise.

As for the 60 point remark, he would have need 13 points in the 10 games he missed to reach that mark.
- tomburton99

We are still talking about Zib ?

We are still talking about Zib ?
- rrentz

Unfortunately, yeah.

Unfortunately, yeah.
- tomburton99

Zib isn't exactly a rookie anymore, so his potential is pretty much what he has shown thus far through 4+ seasons. Of course he might put up #1 C numbers, but he hasn't done so yet, and until he actually does, he can't be considered #1 C...Why is this so hard to understand?

Zib isn't exactly a rookie anymore, so his potential is pretty much what he has shown thus far through 4+ seasons. Of course he might put up #1 C numbers, but he hasn't done so yet, and until he actually does, he can't be considered #1 C...Why is this so hard to understand?
- rrentz

Players at his age usually start to peak right now. So I expect him to exceed the 47 points he put up last year and his career high of 51. But to say he's a #1 center because he's on the Rangers 1st line, is asinine.

Again, nobody is saying Zib should be moved. He's got a decent cap hit and the term on his deal is good. I just don't expect him to be a 65+ point player.

Zib isn't exactly a rookie anymore, so his potential is pretty much what he has shown thus far through 4+ seasons. Of course he might put up #1 C numbers, but he hasn't done so yet, and until he actually does, he can't be considered #1 C...Why is this so hard to understand?
- rrentz

What don’t you understand? His 27 goals is comparable to other 1c’s. If he had an elite scorer playing with him, his point totals would be comparable too!!

Tampa doesn't need to trade Kucherov anytime soon even if they acquired Karlsson

his cap hit 4.7 mil this year and that's gold for a team making every attempt to win the Cup now

after the season, yeah, major cap issues trying to get Kucherov to fit

but, it wouldn't make sense for them to trade him now for a package of Ranger prospects
- jimbro83

They might look at it as everyone will know they’re tight on the cap if not over and HAVE to trade Kucherov, lower return. If they could get a return of roster players that are cost controlled, maybe Skjei Buch ++ they might be willing. Tricky situation

What don’t you understand? His 27 goals is comparable to other 1c’s. If he had an elite scorer playing with him, his point totals would be comparable too!!
- junaka3

I (we) get that, but I don't want to get raped for Kuch, just to see if Zib truly is a number 1 C. Anyone will play better w/ elite talent on their wings.......just ask Nam., but at what cost does NYR attempt to do that in first 3 months of rebuild.

What don’t you understand? His 27 goals is comparable to other 1c’s. If he had an elite scorer playing with him, his point totals would be comparable too!!
- junaka3

Have to agree with this.

Have to agree with this.
- Fenrir

I do too, but it's tough to say when the right time is to bring that guy(s) in.

Players at his age usually start to peak right now. So I expect him to exceed the 47 points he put up last year and his career high of 51. But to say he's a #1 center because he's on the Rangers 1st line, is asinine.

Again, nobody is saying Zib should be moved. He's got a decent cap hit and the term on his deal is good. I just don't expect him to be a 65+ point player.
- tomburton99

What don’t you understand? His 27 goals is comparable to other 1c’s. If he had an elite scorer playing with him, his point totals would be comparable too!!
- junaka3

Just want to chime in my two cents here: RE Zib being a 1C

I see what Tom is saying about Zib not being a true 1C. Compared to someone like Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos etc., Zib is clearly not a "top" 1C, no disagreement here.

However, there are 31 teams now in the NHL. That means you now have 31 1Cs in the league. If healthy, Zib is clearly in that top 31, he may be around the 25-30 range, but he IS a 1C.

New blog up

I do too, but it's tough to say when the right time is to bring that guy(s) in.
- rrentz

Re-assess at the TDL or after next season when some of these guys are UFAs.