Tampa probably doesn't want spooner...He will need to get paid as well
- rrentz

Still a RFA, could control him for a few years

Still a RFA, could control him for a few years
- nyrangers9479

Yes, but at a price of $4 mill + per year?

Yes, but at a price of $4 mill + per year?
- rrentz

Ya he would probably get around the same as Namestnikov, maybe slightly less.

@joesmithtb: Don’t expect any #TBLightning deal for Erik Karlsson anytime soon, per source. Not saying it won’t happen eventually, but nothing imminent or close.
- airjan23

When will you ever come to your sense to realize that it isn't that the Rangers would not want to have Erik Karlsson playing on their back line? It's simply that this is not the right time to bring him in while during a rebuild which began & was made known through a memo direct to Rangers fans and the NHL world last February. It's even a worse option since it will cost the Rangers a few top prospects, including some just acquired through their rebuild, to trade for him. The trade price would go down only if the Rangers would take on 4 more years of Bobby Ryan's $7.25M.
So during a rebuild, you would want the Rangers for the next & last 3 seasons of Hank's current $8.5M cap hit, have 3 players only in Hank, Karlsson and Ryan, tying up a total of $28M to $30M of their cap space each of those seasons, (that's 35% to 38% of their cap based on this year's cap)???
And you call others here "geniuses"???
Well, we others all are then, which is why you still don't have a clue as to why Karlsson is not a proper fit RIGHT AT THIS TIME 6 MONTHS ONLY INTO A REBUILD, & at a high trade cost, "plus" as well.
- RangerSaver

Rebuild started when we traded Brassard for Zib. Stepan for DeA and Anderson. And at deadline we did what they said they’d do in letter to fans. Dealt some familiar faces and continued adding younger, faster players. I’m sure they tried to deal Zuc as part of that and will probably continue. I’m not advocating trading all the prospects we aquired. Sorry if you’re offended by the “genius” comment but, if you look at possible deals that are being reported, I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least test the waters. 1st of all, EK has a year left on his current contract for 6.50 mil, so your comment about the paying 3 players for 3 years is already off.i don’t get how you conflate the rebuild argument with managing the cap. If all you’re interested in is continually bringing in prospects, cap space won’t be an issue. I don’t want Ryan, but if it significantly reduces the “ask”, then maybe if they retain some salary. As I’ve mentioned, currently, we have 2 D men slated to start on right side with very little experience, and not much behind them for a few years. So right D is a need. If we had a package starting with Zuc, who most likely will be dealt at deadline, and add either Spooner or another roster player, then maybe were not giving up more than 1 prospect and a pick? It’s not about winning next year, (although I still think we’d be very competitive, which is ok during rebuild) It’s about locking up a top 5 dman while developing young guys at same time. As you said, only 3 more years of Hank... also only 3 of Shatty and Staal. One big contract will not hurt us.

Rebuild started when we traded Brassard for Zib. Stepan for DeA and Anderson. And at deadline we did what they said they’d do in letter to fans. Dealt some familiar faces and continued adding younger, faster players. I’m sure they tried to deal Zuc as part of that and will probably continue. I’m not advocating trading all the prospects we aquired. Sorry if you’re offended by the “genius” comment but, if you look at possible deals that are being reported, I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least test the waters. 1st of all, EK has a year left on his current contract for 6.50 mil, so your comment about the paying 3 players for 3 years is already off.i don’t get how you conflate the rebuild argument with managing the cap. If all you’re interested in is continually bringing in prospects, cap space won’t be an issue. I don’t want Ryan, but if it significantly reduces the “ask”, then maybe if they retain some salary. As I’ve mentioned, currently, we have 2 D men slated to start on right side with very little experience, and not much behind them for a few years. So right D is a need. If we had a package starting with Zuc, who most likely will be dealt at deadline, and add either Spooner or another roster player, then maybe were not giving up more than 1 prospect and a pick? It’s not about winning next year, (although I still think we’d be very competitive, which is ok during rebuild) It’s about locking up a top 5 dman while developing young guys at same time. As you said, only 3 more years of Hank... also only 3 of Shatty and Staal. One big contract will not hurt us.
- junaka3

you've put a LOT of energy into trying to convince everyone here that the Rangers need Karlsson and should do whatever it takes to acquire him.

But, no matter what, still doesn't change the fact that the Rangers aren't interested in trading what it would take to get him.

dude, that's the bottom line, they aren't doing it.

you've put a LOT of energy into trying to convince everyone here that the Rangers need Karlsson and should do whatever it takes to acquire him.

But, no matter what, still doesn't change the fact that the Rangers aren't interested in trading what it would take to get him.

dude, that's the bottom line, they aren't doing it.
- jimbro83

I think that’s a mistake. Again, I’m looking at what maybe other teams are offering... and wondering if we can do it without sacrificing future. Is rebuild done in 2 years? are we wasting 2 years of prime for guys like Zib, Hayes and Kreider.
I don’t know what people think they’d get just for taking on the almost 6 mil salary of Cally, but it ain’t going to be much. Seem to miss the point also that by helping Tampa we might never get past them inplayoffs for about the next 5 years.

I think that’s a mistake. Again, I’m looking at what maybe other teams are offering... and wondering if we can do it without sacrificing future. Is rebuild done in 2 years? are we wasting 2 years of prime for guys like Zib, Hayes and Kreider.
I don’t know what people think they’d get just for taking on the almost 6 mil salary of Cally, but it ain’t going to be much. Seem to miss the point also that by helping Tampa we might never get past them inplayoffs for about the next 5 years.
- junaka3

Ottawa wants Heiskanen from Dallas, and the Rangers don't have one single prospect better than him.

You want to trade Chytil in a package for Karlsson? I sure don't.

Doesn't really matter though. The Rangers aren't interested.

Ottawa wants Heiskanen from Dallas, and the Rangers don't have one single prospect better than him.

You want to trade Chytil in a package for Karlsson? I sure don't.

Doesn't really matter though. The Rangers aren't interested.
- jimbro83

Exactly.

NYR doesn't have any prospects to package that we should be willing to give up for EK at this stage in the game. I get if NYR was a player or two from contention, but that simply isn't the case at this time. WHy not wait til, at least next offseason b4 any big name FAs are signed?

I think that’s a mistake. Again, I’m looking at what maybe other teams are offering... and wondering if we can do it without sacrificing future. Is rebuild done in 2 years? are we wasting 2 years of prime for guys like Zib, Hayes and Kreider.
I don’t know what people think they’d get just for taking on the almost 6 mil salary of Cally, but it ain’t going to be much. Seem to miss the point also that by helping Tampa we might never get past them inplayoffs for about the next 5 years.
- junaka3

#StickingToThePlan #LoseForHughes

I think that’s a mistake. Again, I’m looking at what maybe other teams are offering... and wondering if we can do it without sacrificing future. Is rebuild done in 2 years? are we wasting 2 years of prime for guys like Zib, Hayes and Kreider.
I don’t know what people think they’d get just for taking on the almost 6 mil salary of Cally, but it ain’t going to be much. Seem to miss the point also that by helping Tampa we might never get past them inplayoffs for about the next 5 years.
- junaka3

fair points

Exactly.

NYR doesn't have any prospects to package that we should be willing to give up for EK at this stage in the game. I get if NYR was a player or two from contention, but that simply isn't the case at this time. WHy not wait til, at least next offseason b4 any big name FAs are signed?
- rrentz

most NY fans dont have the stomach for a rebuild

Ottawa wants Heiskanen from Dallas, and the Rangers don't have one single prospect better than him.

You want to trade Chytil in a package for Karlsson? I sure don't.

Doesn't really matter though. The Rangers aren't interested.
- jimbro83

This is a blog where fans can give opinions. Whether you think Rangers will or won’t is irreverent. From what I’ve read, probably not.... but none of the comments have come directly from management . That said, no I’m not giving up Chytil. And from what I’ve read, Ottowa is looking for players that can play now. Heiskanen and Tampa’s Sergachev have been mentioned. Would you put Skjei in that category? Considering we’re still stuck with Smith and Staal, and have Hajek,Lindgren,Rykov and Day coming, would you be willing to trade DeAngelo, Skjei and Howden? I think that’s comparable to other deals I’ve seen reported. DeAngelo would be a young puck moving dman to help replace EK. Skjei is already a top 4 guy a little upside left. Howden a solid center prospect, who is behind Chytil and Anderson and maybe doesn’t get a chance unless we move Zib or Hayes. Keep in mind that as part of rebuild we’ll probably look to move Zuc at next deadline and can probably get a return similar to what we got for Nash. Or maybe he’s included in deal for Karlsson. Anyways, my point is we can add Karlsson without hurting rebuild. Theres not many teams that win a cup without a stud player... whenever rebuild is complete, having a 2 time Norris trophy winner on team will still be a good thing. Let’s not forget that we still have a decent team. When letter went out, we where 3 points out of playoffs. Kreider was out and Shatty was hurting. Dealing 3 players who weren’t going to be back was a good decision. We’re in a good place right now.

most NY fans dont have the stomach for a rebuild
- jimbro83

I know...every team who has "success" in cap era HAS to go through this. It's impossible not to. Might as well do it the right way. If it is done the correct way the rebuild will be quicker and the team will be better foranyore years. Gotta build from within before anything else is done

This is a blog where fans can give opinions. Whether you think Rangers will or won’t is irreverent. From what I’ve read, probably not.... but none of the comments have come directly from management . That said, no I’m not giving up Chytil. And from what I’ve read, Ottowa is looking for players that can play now. Heiskanen and Tampa’s Sergachev have been naked I’ve seen. Would you put Skjei in that category? Considering we’re still stuck with Smith and Staal, and have Hajek,Lindgren,Rykov and Day coming, would you be willing to trade DeAngelo, Skjei and Howden? I think that’s comparable to other deals I’ve seen reported. DeAngelo would be a young puck moving dman to help replace EK. Skjei is already a top 4 guy a little upside left. Howden a solid center prospect, who is behind Chytil and Anderson and maybe doesn’t get a chance unless we move Zib or Hayes. Keep in mind that as part of rebuild we’ll probably look to move Zuc at next deadline and can probably get a return similar to what we got for Nash. Or maybe he’s included in deal for Karlsson. Anyways, my point is we can add Karlsson without hurting rebuild. Theres not many teams that win a cup without a stud player... whenever rebuild is complete, having a 2 time Norris trophy winner on team will still be a good thing. Let’s not forget that we still have a decent team. When letter went out, we where 3 points out of playoffs. Kreider was out and Shatty was hurting. Dealing 3 players who weren’t going to be back was a good decision. We’re in a good place right now.
- junaka3

I don't think NYR will be "stuck" with Smith. He's going to be food this year. He learned his lesson, and with Prentice training him and a new baby in family he will be motivated to get career back on track

This is a blog where fans can give opinions. Whether you think Rangers will or won’t is irreverent. From what I’ve read, probably not.... but none of the comments have come directly from management . That said, no I’m not giving up Chytil. And from what I’ve read, Ottowa is looking for players that can play now. Heiskanen and Tampa’s Sergachev have been mentioned. Would you put Skjei in that category? Considering we’re still stuck with Smith and Staal, and have Hajek,Lindgren,Rykov and Day coming, would you be willing to trade DeAngelo, Skjei and Howden? I think that’s comparable to other deals I’ve seen reported. DeAngelo would be a young puck moving dman to help replace EK. Skjei is already a top 4 guy a little upside left. Howden a solid center prospect, who is behind Chytil and Anderson and maybe doesn’t get a chance unless we move Zib or Hayes. Keep in mind that as part of rebuild we’ll probably look to move Zuc at next deadline and can probably get a return similar to what we got for Nash. Or maybe he’s included in deal for Karlsson. Anyways, my point is we can add Karlsson without hurting rebuild. Theres not many teams that win a cup without a stud player... whenever rebuild is complete, having a 2 time Norris trophy winner on team will still be a good thing. Let’s not forget that we still have a decent team. When letter went out, we where 3 points out of playoffs. Kreider was out and Shatty was hurting. Dealing 3 players who weren’t going to be back was a good decision. We’re in a good place right now.
- junaka3

OMG, you are still trying to convince me, LMAO

This is a blog where fans can give opinions. Whether you think Rangers will or won’t is irreverent. From what I’ve read, probably not.... but none of the comments have come directly from management . That said, no I’m not giving up Chytil. And from what I’ve read, Ottowa is looking for players that can play now. Heiskanen and Tampa’s Sergachev have been mentioned. Would you put Skjei in that category? Considering we’re still stuck with Smith and Staal, and have Hajek,Lindgren,Rykov and Day coming, would you be willing to trade DeAngelo, Skjei and Howden? I think that’s comparable to other deals I’ve seen reported. DeAngelo would be a young puck moving dman to help replace EK. Skjei is already a top 4 guy a little upside left. Howden a solid center prospect, who is behind Chytil and Anderson and maybe doesn’t get a chance unless we move Zib or Hayes. Keep in mind that as part of rebuild we’ll probably look to move Zuc at next deadline and can probably get a return similar to what we got for Nash. Or maybe he’s included in deal for Karlsson. Anyways, my point is we can add Karlsson without hurting rebuild. Theres not many teams that win a cup without a stud player... whenever rebuild is complete, having a 2 time Norris trophy winner on team will still be a good thing. Let’s not forget that we still have a decent team. When letter went out, we where 3 points out of playoffs. Kreider was out and Shatty was hurting. Dealing 3 players who weren’t going to be back was a good decision. We’re in a good place right now.
- junaka3

I’d give them Skjei but nothing else. And that’s not good enough.

This is what they’re gonna want:

Skjei
Chytil or Anderson
Non protected 1st next year

So now how do you feel?

most NY fans dont have the stomach for a rebuild
- jimbro83

It’s not about having a stomach for this. I like what they’re doing, but you still have to balance it out. Letter to fans was about building a cup contender. Gorton is on record saying they will still be looking to put a team on the ice that’s goal is to win games. They’re not tanking just to maybe get another high pick.

It’s not about having a stomach for this. I like what they’re doing, but you still have to balance it out. Letter to fans was about building a cup contender. Gorton is on record saying they will still be looking to put a team on the ice that’s goal is to win games. They’re not tanking just to maybe get another high pick.
- junaka3

I dont think you read the letter

OMG, you are still trying to convince me, LMAO
- jimbro83

he's actually doing a good job...

and he's able to speak his opinion without the tossers chiming in with their weak bullying

he's actually doing a good job...

and he's able to speak his opinion without the tossers chiming in with their weak bullying
- 21peter

the only problem is that convincing me isn't going to change anything

It’s not about having a stomach for this. I like what they’re doing, but you still have to balance it out. Letter to fans was about building a cup contender. Gorton is on record saying they will still be looking to put a team on the ice that’s goal is to win games. They’re not tanking just to maybe get another high pick.
- junaka3

Karlsson will be making 12 million until he’s 37. We’d be getting only a few years left of his prime before the decline which would likely cost us some of our guys down the road when it comes time to sign them. He has an injury history that will catch up to him sooner than later. If we lost in the SCF last year and he was the missing piece, maybe. But we’re much more than 1 player from being legit contenders.

the only problem is that convincing me isn't going to change anything
- jimbro83

I doubt that convincing you is his main target though

I doubt that convincing you is his main target though
- 21peter

the main target doesn't read this blog

or does he?

the main target doesn't read this blog

or does he?
- jimbro83

you better believe it