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Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
I have one problem. We are not sure if Karlsson's ankle injuries are adding up and if he'll ever be Norris winner Karlsson again.
- Aaron_85


Very True. I imagine anyone who signs him to an 8 year 12.5M contract will regret it in 4-5 years. He did throw a bottom 5 team on his back and lug them to game 7 double OT of the conference finals last year.

He's still got game.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
Here's how this could happen (although I am far from convinced that it will) :

Salary cap concerns - If Yzerman was in on Tavares, then obviously he had a plan of action in place to fit in Tavares' contract. A Karlsson contract wouldn't be too different from a Karlsson contract in terms of caphit or term. So, how does Yzerman the warlock make it happen?

Buy out Callahan.

Trade Killorn or Johnson.

Sergachev goes to Ottawa as part of the deal - there goes any worry about his next contract.

It's not that outlandish. Vinik has shown he will spend to the max to win, and Yzerman is adept at using his Jedi Mind Tricks to glamour other GM's.

From this Tampa fan's perspective, I'd rather Karlsson go out west somewhere - maybe Dallas or San Jose or Vegas. Karlsson is great, but he has peaked and will likely never put up Norris numbers again while skating on a surgically-altered ankle that is missing a bone. Karlsson himself said his skating has lost a touch. If the cost to acquire Karlsson is Sergachev or Point, I would decline the trade if I was Yzerman. I honestly don't think Karlsson is worth north of $10 or $11 million per season. A few years ago, yes. Now? No.

- GalacticStone

Phoenix. tee hee.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
They mostly just give it to the guy with the most points, not the actual best defenseman. So there's a very good chance that he'll be nominated again.
- GreatGigInTheSky

What else would explain why Tanev hasn't won two or three of them yet?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
Did I see UG call someone Uggie

Get's better in here everyday
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
At some point, you need people who can play defense. Ottawa fans have been telling us how great he is defensively for years.

He isn't. He sucks in his own end.

If Tampa has to give up anything like Sergachev, or not resign someone next season, they will be weaker overall.

- Aetherial


Very true. He's never been good defensively and he is getting worse.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
This hands down. Seriously when will these (frank)s get it into their thick neanderthal skulls that not everything in hcokey has to do with Toronto. Any (frank)ing team that has the assets to acquire Karlsson would make a deal to get him... get off your (frank)ing high horses.
- Smurffin


You and Iggy do realize that you are in a Leafs thread started by a Leafs blogger right?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
Here's how this could happen (although I am far from convinced that it will) :

Salary cap concerns - If Yzerman was in on Tavares, then obviously he had a plan of action in place to fit in Tavares' contract. A Karlsson contract wouldn't be too different from a Karlsson contract in terms of caphit or term. So, how does Yzerman the warlock make it happen?

Buy out Callahan.

Trade Killorn or Johnson.

Sergachev goes to Ottawa as part of the deal - there goes any worry about his next contract.

It's not that outlandish. Vinik has shown he will spend to the max to win, and Yzerman is adept at using his Jedi Mind Tricks to glamour other GM's.

From this Tampa fan's perspective, I'd rather Karlsson go out west somewhere - maybe Dallas or San Jose or Vegas. Karlsson is great, but he has peaked and will likely never put up Norris numbers again while skating on a surgically-altered ankle that is missing a bone. Karlsson himself said his skating has lost a touch. If the cost to acquire Karlsson is Sergachev or Point, I would decline the trade if I was Yzerman. I honestly don't think Karlsson is worth north of $10 or $11 million per season. A few years ago, yes. Now? No.

- GalacticStone


I would agree with this post. As Yzerman has done often - he can work magic with the cap. I am not convinced that Karlsson is worth $11m, just like I was not convinced that Price was not worth $10.5m. Would talke alot of juggling, but not impossible for Stevie Y.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
Very True. I imagine anyone who signs him to an 8 year 12.5M contract will regret it in 4-5 years. He did throw a bottom 5 team on his back and lug them to game 7 double OT of the conference finals last year.

He's still got game.

- Schennski


That was Anderson.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
First
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
What else would explain why Tanev hasn't won two or three of them yet?
- RickJames77


Playing only half a season is his biggest hurdle.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
At some point, you need people who can play defense. Ottawa fans have been telling us how great he is defensively for years.

He isn't. He sucks in his own end.

If Tampa has to give up anything like Sergachev, or not resign someone next season, they will be weaker overall.

- Aetherial

Are you saying Romanuk has been lying this whole time?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
Here's how this could happen (although I am far from convinced that it will) :

Salary cap concerns - If Yzerman was in on Tavares, then obviously he had a plan of action in place to fit in Tavares' contract. A Karlsson contract wouldn't be too different from a Karlsson contract in terms of caphit or term. So, how does Yzerman the warlock make it happen?

Buy out Callahan.

Trade Killorn or Johnson.

Sergachev goes to Ottawa as part of the deal - there goes any worry about his next contract.

It's not that outlandish. Vinik has shown he will spend to the max to win, and Yzerman is adept at using his Jedi Mind Tricks to glamour other GM's.

From this Tampa fan's perspective, I'd rather Karlsson go out west somewhere - maybe Dallas or San Jose or Vegas. Karlsson is great, but he has peaked and will likely never put up Norris numbers again while skating on a surgically-altered ankle that is missing a bone. Karlsson himself said his skating has lost a touch. If the cost to acquire Karlsson is Sergachev or Point, I would decline the trade if I was Yzerman. I honestly don't think Karlsson is worth north of $10 or $11 million per season. A few years ago, yes. Now? No.

- GalacticStone



I think it can be done... but it makes your team worse maybe now, definitely in a year or two. I am not even trolling. I honestly think that his contract and his defense are going to hurt whoever signs him.

Just like how we may not like the JT contract much in a couple years, although he IS familiar with both ends of the ice.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
Did I see UG call someone Uggie

Get's better in here everyday

- Garnie

You may have seen an unreasonable facsimile.
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
Did I see UG call someone Uggie

Get's better in here everyday

- Garnie


Oh hi.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
Oh hi.
- Unholy-Goalie


Oh this UG.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
I think it can be done... but it makes your team worse maybe now, definitely in a year or two. I am not even trolling. I honestly think that his contract and his defense are going to hurt whoever signs him.

Just like how we may not like the JT contract much in a couple years, although he IS familiar with both ends of the ice.

- Aetherial

That super duper Isles fan begs to differ.
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Oh this UG.
- Garnie


#freeHOHO
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
That was Anderson.
- GreatGigInTheSky


19 games 18 points...isn't too shabby....EK is better with 1 skate on then Jake
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
#freeHOHO
- Unholy-Goalie

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
19 games 18 points...isn't too shabby....EK is better with 1 skate on then Jake
- Garnie


That's good for sure, but the only reason they won games was Anderson.

Also Lundqvist sucked ass in that series.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Here's how this could happen (although I am far from convinced that it will) :

Salary cap concerns - If Yzerman was in on Tavares, then obviously he had a plan of action in place to fit in Tavares' contract. A Karlsson contract wouldn't be too different from a Karlsson contract in terms of caphit or term. So, how does Yzerman the warlock make it happen?

Buy out Callahan.

Trade Killorn or Johnson.

Sergachev goes to Ottawa as part of the deal - there goes any worry about his next contract.

It's not that outlandish. Vinik has shown he will spend to the max to win, and Yzerman is adept at using his Jedi Mind Tricks to glamour other GM's.

From this Tampa fan's perspective, I'd rather Karlsson go out west somewhere - maybe Dallas or San Jose or Vegas. Karlsson is great, but he has peaked and will likely never put up Norris numbers again while skating on a surgically-altered ankle that is missing a bone. Karlsson himself said his skating has lost a touch. If the cost to acquire Karlsson is Sergachev or Point, I would decline the trade if I was Yzerman. I honestly don't think Karlsson is worth north of $10 or $11 million per season. A few years ago, yes. Now? No.

- GalacticStone


Yzerman could have traded Johnson before his NTC kicked in July 1st, I believe that was reported to be the likely relief. As posted a lot of times on this thread take a look at all of the NTC/NMC that Tampa has. Who is going to waive to goto Ottawa?

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning

Also, I believe the buyout period is over, isnt it?


I tend to agree with your assessment of Karlsson.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
This hands down. Seriously when will these (frank)s get it into their thick neanderthal skulls that not everything in hcokey has to do with Toronto. Any (frank)ing team that has the assets to acquire Karlsson would make a deal to get him... get off your (frank)ing high horses.
- Smurffin


I have no idea what team you root for, but statistically speaking, there is a good chance that you cheer for some piss-ant small market team that would not even exist without revenue sharing from teams like the Leafs.

If that is the case, you should be thanking these guys, not trolling them.

Bye felicia.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
That's good for sure, but the only reason they won games was Anderson.

Also Lundqvist sucked ass in that series.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I don't think he's the end all to be all....but he'd be our best D hands down.
Schennski
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
That was Anderson.
- GreatGigInTheSky


I didn't watch a lot of it but I listen to a ton of Ottawa sports radio as I'm in my car most days. They gave most of the credit to Karlsson.

Anderson went 11-8 with a 2.34 and a .922. That's good but not Conn Smyth good.
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