The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

Oh...

The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

Ok, now that you've clarified your position on wake and bake, we can proceed with the debate under more realistic conditions... so my response to you is, Purple. Monkey. Dishwasher. Oreos. Do you see the connection? Cool.

2 50+ point defensemen.
- Steven_Seagull

The problem is those two are prone to defensive lapses and it gets REALLY shallow after those two.

The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

Oh my, is this guy for real?

Trade for Chris Tanev

Brandon Sutter, Chris Tanev & Ben Hutton for Nazzy Kadri !!!
- LeftCoaster

Kadri and Marleau on the 3rd says otherwise.

Um, no

Ok, now that you've clarified your position on wake and bake, we can proceed with the debate under more realistic conditions... so my response to you is, Purple. Monkey. Dishwasher. Oreos. Do you see the connection? Cool.
- gravyface

The problem is those two are prone to defensive lapses and it gets REALLY shallow after those two.
- LeftCoaster

The problem with that is they are still on the ice more for than against

Kadri and Marleau on the 3rd says otherwise.

Um, no
- burn

I was under the impression Marleau and some guy named Hyman would play top six with the other ladies you have up there?

The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

Have you seen the Sens defence group after Karlsson leaves>?

The problem with that is they are still on the ice more for than against
- burn

Rielly was -4 and he had 52 points.

Kadri and Marleau on the 3rd says otherwise.

Um, no
- burn

Point would be Leafs 4th line center.

Rielly was -4 and he had 52 points.
- LeftCoaster

Rielly's turning a corner. I like the wait and see plan as well, unless something amazing pops up.

Rielly's turning a corner. I like the wait and see plan as well, unless something amazing pops up.
- Woderwick

He's a great young player, I'm just saying there's not a lot of good players behind him and Gardiner.

The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

I think you are going over the top a little with the Leafs D. I mean the Leafs horrible D and the team gave up 232 goals. But TB was fine and gave up 236?

Rielly's turning a corner. I like the wait and see plan as well, unless something amazing pops up.
- Woderwick

Rielly needs a defensive partner that he doesn't have to make better.

I'm hoping that comes from within, but we'll see how the season plays out.

Trade for Chris Tanev

Brandon Sutter, Chris Tanev & Ben Hutton for Nazzy Kadri !!!
- LeftCoaster

The time to trade Tanev was 2 years ago.

I think you are going over the top a little with the Leafs D. I mean the Leafs horrible D and the team gave up 232 goals. But TB was fine and gave up 236?
- senstroll

GA is not a reflection of your defense, it's a reflection of your teams defensive game, five man units and goaltending. C'mmmmon man

The time to trade Tanev was 2 years ago.
- senstroll

It's never too late

Leafs nation got SERVED by Bolts91

DAMN

I was under the impression Marleau and some guy named Hyman would play top six with the other laides you have up there?
- LeftCoaster

Hyman with Matthews, because apparently they can't be seperated.

I heard they are going to put Tavares with marner.

Babcock like to run his forwards in pairs, so I assume marleau stays with kadri.

Hyman Matthews nylander
Kapanen Tavares marner
Marleau kadri brown

Have you seen the Sens defence group after Karlsson leaves>?
- david22

want to compare with MTL without Weber?

Leafs nation got SERVED by Bolts91

DAMN

- Symba007

Hope he gets into a car accident.




A minor one...no injuries. Just embarrassment.

want to compare with MTL without Weber?
- Symba007

Please do

Hyman with Matthews, because apparently they can't be seperated.

I heard they are going to put Tavares with marner.

Babcock like to run his forwards in pairs, so I assume marleau stays with kadri.

Hyman Matthews nylander
Johnsson Tavares marner
Marleau kadri brown
Leivo-Lindholm-Kapanen
- burn

GA is not a reflection of your defense, it's a reflection of your teams defensive game, five man units and goaltending. C'mmmmon man
- LeftCoaster

oh

So the leafs were around 12th in the League in GA. with that Horrible D
Something seems fishy