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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
You're just saying that because it raises the chance of a three-way for you because I'd be the lonely Habs fan there.
- Scabeh



Cuckold?
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
We still have over $10 mil in cap space for this season. We could get ourselves some draft picks to take on a poopty 1 year contract. And then we'd still have space at the deadline for a rental D.(rental D)
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'd say Kyle, but we are so screwed now...

Anthony Duclair will play with the @BlueJacketsNHL next season. A one year-one way deal at $650 000

- PatC80


that seems like a very good bet
no downside really.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
Sounds like him alright.

FFS he's willing to take a flyer on Ales Hemsky but not on a 22 year old kid who's a very good friend of Drouin and Domi?


- Scabeh



I feel like there is a short joke to be made here... Isn't Duclair almost 6'0 tall?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
Moafer = grant mccagg = piss-boy
- Tumbleweed


Fixed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfXiIXTpE0

GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Yzerman could have traded Johnson before his NTC kicked in July 1st, I believe that was reported to be the likely relief. As posted a lot of times on this thread take a look at all of the NTC/NMC that Tampa has. Who is going to waive to goto Ottawa?

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning

Also, I believe the buyout period is over, isnt it?


I tend to agree with your assessment of Karlsson.

- Archaic

I forgot out the buyout period. And yes, I don't think anyone on Tampa's roster is going to approve of a trade to Melnyk's Senators. I don't see anyone volunteering a trade to a tire fire.

Sustr walked away today, so that saves 1.95mil against the cap. That will pay for 1/10th of Karlsson's salary. LOL.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Fixed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfXiIXTpE0


- winsix

Moafer has the brains of an ice cube.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Agreed. Karlsson is awesome. But he is no longer the best d-man in the league (arguable that he ever was) and I don't want Tampa being in cap hell just to sign up and play catch up with Tavares and the Leafs.

I think Karlsson goes somewhere else other than Tampa. Yzerman might want him, but Yzerman is smart enough to know when to walk away if Ottawa is demanding the sun, moon, and stars in return. I would be shocked if Yzerman parted with Point - and pissed. I think Point is more valuable to this team right now than the addition of Karlsson would be.

- GalacticStone


The interesting thing is, what does Tampa have to give up?
If the Twitter rumour had any truth to it. William Nylander, Timothy Liljegren and picks are not enough for Dorion..
I assume Tampa would have to pay an even higher price than that...
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:31 PM ET
The interesting thing is, what does Tampa have to give up?
If the Twitter rumour had any truth to it. William Nylander, Timothy Liljegren and picks are not enough for Dorion..
I assume Tampa would have to pay an even higher price than that...

- PatC80

If I am Ottawa, I am asking for Brayden Point as a start.

And to me, that's a deal-breaker. Point for Karlsson would have been doable a few years ago before the ankle surgery. Now, not so much.

Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
The interesting thing is, what does Tampa have to give up?
If the Twitter rumour had any truth to it. William Nylander, Timothy Liljegren and picks are not enough for Dorion..
I assume Tampa would have to pay an even higher price than that...

- PatC80


(frank), I would not make that trade if I were the Leafs
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
650k for 1 year? That's it?

Bergevin couldn't even bring himself to match that? Jesus christ.

- Scabeh

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
If I am Ottawa, I am asking for Brayden Point as a start.

And to me, that's a deal-breaker. Point for Karlsson would have been doable a few years ago before the ankle surgery. Now, not so much.

- GalacticStone


My favourite part is the fans who think holding out until the deadline is a better option than trading now. Guaranteed at the deadline the deals get worse and from even less teams.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
The interesting thing is, what does Tampa have to give up?
If the Twitter rumour had any truth to it. William Nylander, Timothy Liljegren and picks are not enough for Dorion..
I assume Tampa would have to pay an even higher price than that...

- PatC80


I would think something like this

Sergachev or Foote
Johnson or Killorn (or if PD is dumb Callahan)
1st 2020
1 other ok'ish prospect
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
The interesting thing is, what does Tampa have to give up?
If the Twitter rumour had any truth to it. William Nylander, Timothy Liljegren and picks are not enough for Dorion..
I assume Tampa would have to pay an even higher price than that...

- PatC80


No team will pay a higher price. Ottawa can trade him now, but he's a rental. Teams will give picks and prospects and maybe one good roster player, if Bobby Ryan is in the deal as reported, other players/salaries have to be moved. Sens might have to wait until the trade deadline to move him, only problem will be if Eugene can make payroll until then.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
If I am Ottawa, I am asking for Brayden Point as a start.

And to me, that's a deal-breaker. Point for Karlsson would have been doable a few years ago before the ankle surgery. Now, not so much.

- GalacticStone


Completely agree. I wouldnt trade Point, he is very good.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jul 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
Dear Scabeh,

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Kokka (expected 3rd overall) Jr. A SM-liiga 38gp 25g 30a 55p


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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
I would think something like this

Sergachev or Foote
Johnson or Killorn (or if PD is dumb Callahan)
1st 2020
1 other ok'ish prospect

- senstroll


Both Killorn and Johnson have NTC's...so yeah, doubt that is happening. They would have to be complicated trades. Sounds unlikely.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 4:37 PM ET
I would think something like this

Sergachev or Foote
Johnson or Killorn (or if PD is dumb Callahan)
1st 2020
1 other ok'ish prospect prospect

- senstroll


Not sure, but would be a mistake to include Sergachev for a rental. For a cap team to unload a entry level deal solid d-man - would not be expected from Stevie Y.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:38 PM ET
Not sure, but would be a mistake to include Sergachev for a rental. For a cap team to unload a entry level deal solid d-man - would not be expected from Stevie Y.
- winsix


Pretty sure Karlsson would only be traded if there is an agreement on an extension in place.

Would be funny if he became a deadline rental only.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:39 PM ET
Both Killorn and Johnson have NTC's...so yeah, doubt that is happening. They would have to be complicated trades. Sounds unlikely.
- Archaic


Killorns looks easier to move. Not easy for sure.

Hope its not TB
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
Not sure, but would be a mistake to include Sergachev for a rental. For a cap team to unload a entry level deal solid d-man - would not be expected from Stevie Y.
- winsix


i am just assuming they get him for more than 1 year.

But for EK you easily hand him over
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
When Marc Bergevin talked about icing a team that should be able to make the 2019 playoffs, he wasn’t selling hope; he was selling a fantasy.

https://t.co/a0lmeRRWc4

(Via @EricEngels)

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 5 @ 4:41 PM ET
i am just assuming they get him for more than 1 year.

But for EK you easily hand him over

- senstroll

Crazy the possession time the Leafs would have with EK starting the rushes. Scary.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 4:44 PM ET
When Marc Bergevin talked about icing a team that should be able to make the 2019 playoffs, he wasn’t selling hope; he was selling a fantasy.

https://t.co/a0lmeRRWc4

(Via @EricEngels)


- Archaic



Well according to Grant Mccagg Mr Bergevin has made several good moves in a row..how can this be?
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
Both Killorn and Johnson have NTC's...so yeah, doubt that is happening. They would have to be complicated trades. Sounds unlikely.
- Archaic


In fact 10 NMC/NTC on Tampa. Including all d-men except Sergachev
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