Statistically, with all metrics considered, it's actually a very even trade. Toronto gets a RHD they need badly and the Jets get the LHD they need badly. Toronto gets a little bigger, the Jets get a little faster.

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- Unholy_Goalie

Myers looks like he weighs about 150lbs....which is only about 5lbs heavier then Jake looks.

Myers looks like he weighs about 150lbs....which is only about 5lbs heavier then Jake looks.
- Garnie

6'8", 203.

6'8", 203.
- Unholy_Goalie

Exactly....pretty much a pencil.

We trade our 2nd best D for the Jets worse D pretty much.

I'd take a hard pass if it was me.

I'm with you on this.

(frank) the guys becoming Pens fans all of a sudden or Hawks fans because they're winning.

(frank) the Leafs, now and forever.

But good for Leafs fans who can enjoy a good team after years of misery.

Respectuflly of course.
- Scabeh

Exactly....pretty much a pencil.

We trade our 2nd best D for the Jets worse D pretty much.

I'd take a hard pass if it was me.
- Garnie

Stats prove otherwise.

They're both UFAs and Myers is equally effective but might cost less to re-sign whereas Gardiner's point totals will make him cost more to keep. RHD, bigger, more defensively sound and possibly cheaper. That's not a bad deal at all.

It will be an interesting year now that we have zero grit....we'll see if run and gun and no hitting works.
- Garnie

Dubas is competent, he will not wait until some garbage fourth liner intentionally injures Matthews or JT this year. There was no answer when Clutterbuck hurt Matthews. Edmonton hired Lucic to protect McDavid after Philly gooned him. It was a fail of an attempt. Need to get a big tough player that can skate well - Byfulglien is an example of a big tough player that can skate. If anyone touches their goalie, he would gladly rip their head off and sh!t in the hole. My hope is to add talent and toughness at the same time.

Stats prove otherwise.
- Unholy_Goalie

Winterpeg has had a better team then the Leafs...not worried about the stats.

I'm hoping to add without getting rid of Gardiner...it would be a sideways move at best if we did that trade.

I don't think there is huge concern. Leafs went from last place and 69 points to 95 points and making the playoffs with a strong first round against the Caps, to 105 points in the best division in hockey last year and another solid round against the Bruins. In addition, every single game was sold out - you would have had to sell a car to afford tickets to a Leaf Playoff game. This year, they added a dynamic player and with some luck will improve on the 105 points and get home ice and go further. We'll see. This team is built to win for many years to come.

How are the Sens doing?
- winsix

Then Sens are about to rebuild. Going to Lose for Huges....to send him to Colorado

Winterpeg has had a better team then the Leafs...not worried about the stats.

I'm hoping to add without getting rid of Gardiner...it would be a sideways move at best if we did that trade.
- Garnie

I agree, not sold on Myers, a bit like JVR, good player, yes, tall yes, hits? hell no.

Dubas is competent, he will not wait until some garbage fourth liner intentionally injures Matthews or JT this year. There was no answer when Clutterbuck hurt Matthews. Edmonton hired Lucic to protect McDavid after Philly gooned him. It was a fail of an attempt. Need to get a big tough player that can skate well - Byfulglien is an example of a big tough player that can skate. If anyone touches their goalie, he would gladly rip their head off and sh!t in the hole. My hope is to add talent and toughness at the same time.
- winsix

I've got my blue and white pom poms ready, in Dubas I trust and I'll see what happens in the 1st few mths before I female dog too much.

Then Sens are about to rebuild. Going to Lose for Huges....to send him to Colorado
- Archaic

When you think you're good...but you're not. Kind of like the Kessel deal (without the conference finals)

Winterpeg has had a better team then the Leafs...not worried about the stats.

I'm hoping to add without getting rid of Gardiner...it would be a sideways move at best if we did that trade.
- Garnie

Gardiner is a UFA after next year. No matter what, you have to do something or he walks for nothing. Either you trade him for somebody as effective but cheaper or you re-sign him and overpay him to stay. They're better off moving him or it's the same stupid poop they missed out on with JVR and Bozak.

Did the Leafs sign Tavares yet?

Dubas is competent, he will not wait until some garbage fourth liner intentionally injures Matthews or JT this year. There was no answer when Clutterbuck hurt Matthews. Edmonton hired Lucic to protect McDavid after Philly gooned him. It was a fail of an attempt. Need to get a big tough player that can skate well - Byfulglien is an example of a big tough player that can skate. If anyone touches their goalie, he would gladly rip their head off and sh!t in the hole. My hope is to add talent and toughness at the same time.
- winsix

I wish Byfuglien was available.. That would be a great move

Gardiner is a UFA after next year. No matter what, you have to do something or he walks for nothing. Either you trade him for somebody as effective but cheaper or you re-sign him and overpay him to stay. They're better off moving him or it's the same stupid poop they missed out on with JVR and Bozak.
- Unholy_Goalie

We'd be in the same both with Myers wouldn't we?

I think we'll get Jake signed to a good #

Did the Leafs sign Tavares yet?
- Unholy_Troalie

No.
Joe Tavares might be retired, I think

Gardiner is a UFA after next year. No matter what, you have to do something or he walks for nothing. Either you trade him for somebody as effective but cheaper or you re-sign him and overpay him to stay. They're better off moving him or it's the same stupid poop they missed out on with JVR and Bozak.
- Unholy_Goalie

Leafs gambled that Bozak and JVR would get them to the second round, they also showed the younger players on the team that we are here to make this team better for the playoffs and support you not sell off assets for picks. The gamble they took was maybe a late first rounder and a second. Lost the gamble - would probably do the same again and they are right.

I wish Byfuglien was available.. That would be a great move
- PatC80

I agree

Leafs gambled that Bozak and JVR would get them to the second round, they also showed the younger players on the team that we are here to make this team better for the playoffs and support you not sell off assets for picks. The gamble they took was maybe a late first rounder and a second. Lost the gamble - would probably do the same again and they are right.
- winsix

I was ok with the gamble...look how far the Sens made it the year prior. Just didn't pan out. Have to take a risk every once in a while.

Stats prove otherwise.

They're both UFAs and Myers is equally effective but might cost less to re-sign whereas Gardiner's point totals will make him cost more to keep. RHD, bigger, more defensively sound and possibly cheaper. That's not a bad deal at all.
- Unholy_Goalie

The stats def lean towards Gardiner.

Add in the fact he makes more money and is also a UFA.. they will both cost about the same.

I dont see the point

Did the Leafs sign Tavares yet?
- Unholy_Troalie

lol you were so wrong

The stats def lean towards Gardiner.

Add in the fact he makes more money and is also a UFA.. they will both cost about the same.

I dont see the point
- senstroll

Maybe Jakes A.D.D. is in check, or they found a new medication for him.

Whoa, what got up your kilt today big guy?

I never said it was the center of the hockey universe, I was actually sarcastically making fun of someone that was implying it was
- RickJames77

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Gardiner is a UFA after next year. No matter what, you have to do something or he walks for nothing. Either you trade him for somebody as effective but cheaper or you re-sign him and overpay him to stay. They're better off moving him or it's the same stupid poop they missed out on with JVR and Bozak.
- Unholy_Goalie

What about trade him for someone who is less effective offensively, signed for longer on a cheaper contract and try to get an asset back in the form of a draft pick or prospect?

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- Atomic Wedgie

But how does that affect the Leafs?