Please factor in the Dorion good sir and have a look at it again.
- AdamFrench

Dorion doesn't trade within the division.

Bam.

You got Dorioned.

Dorion doesn't trade within the division.

Bam.

You got Dorioned.
- Scabeh

True. We'll have to wait for Vegas to trade for him and then flip him for more value back to the Leafs.

True. We'll have to wait for Vegas to trade for him and then flip him for more value back to the Leafs.
- AdamFrench

There ya go.

Dorion doesn't trade within the division.

Bam.

You got Dorioned.
- Scabeh

After getting dominated in the Hoffman trade, I would think he may change this approach.

Dorion doesn't trade within the division.

Bam.

You got Dorioned.
- Scabeh

After getting dominated in the Hoffman trade, I would think he may change this approach.
- JSC

Doubtful

- winsix

(frank)ing Claude Julien. I'm glad he's still around just for the good of the internet.

(frank)ing Claude Julien. I'm glad he's still around just for the good of the internet.
- Scabeh

Let us pray that the almighty Chunk Lord Boudreau stays employed.

Let us pray that the almighty Chunk Lord Boudreau stays employed.
- AdamFrench

Let us pray that the almighty Chunk Lord Boudreau stays employed.
- AdamFrench

Guy..Leafs made a big mistake


- senstroll

11 million is costly.
But he had 84 pts last year.
The isles could get kessel 4 million cheaper and had 92 points.

He's 7th in points and 3rd in goals over those 6 seasons!
I know everyone hates the Leafs, but they are really grasping at straws here
- BestRapperAlive

Tavares is top 5 in the league in goals since he came into the league.

11 million is costly.
But he had 84 pts last year.
The isles could get kessel 4 million cheaper and had 92 points.
- Fakepartofme

Tavares has the 9th highest cap percentage ever. Is he a top 10 player in the NHL? Probably not. But UFAs get overpaid, that's just the way it is, it's just a matter of how much and can you live with it. He's probably really worth 8 or 9 million but considering he's made every player around him better, you can have a 3rd line ELC player overachieve beside him and call it even.

Tavares is top 5 in the league in goals since he came into the league.
- Fakepartofme

He's a consistent goal scorer but never scored 40, 50 or 60. He's a lot like Sundin in that regard. He's also never really had very good players to play with either so it wouldn't surprise me to see him bust open and score 50 one year with the right linemates. Tavares with Marner 5 on 5 and Matthews on the PP, you'd hope to have two 50 goal scorers together if everything goes perfectly.

(frank) Faulk

NHL.com top 40 ranked defensemen for 2018-2019

1. Victor Hedman, TBL 
2. P.K. Subban, NSH
3. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
4. Brent Burns, SJS
5. Erik Karlsson, OTT*
6. Drew Doughty, LAK*
7. Seth Jones, CBJ 
8. John Klingberg, DAL
9. John Carlson, WSH
10. Roman Josi, NSH
11. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
12. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
13. Torey Krug, BOS
14. Tyson Barrie, COL
15. Rasmus Dahlin, BUF
16. Kris Letang, PIT
17. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
18. Keith Yandle, FLA 
19. Ryan Ellis, NSH*
20. Zach Werenski, CBJ**
21. Charlie McAvoy, BOS**
22. Mark Giordano, CGY
23. Matt Dumba, MIN (RFA)
24. Ivan Provorov, PHI**
25. Morgan Rielly, TOR
26. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI*
27. Shea Weber, MTL (INJ.)
28. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
29. Rasmus Ristolainen, BUF
30. Ryan Suter, MIN (INJ.)
31. Jake Gardiner, TOR*
32. Jake Muzzin, LAK
33. Kevin Shattenkirk, NYR (INJ.)
34. Mikhail Sergachev, TBL
35. Mattias Ekholm, NSH
36. Colton Parayko, STL
37. Erik Johnson, COL (INJ.)
38. Tyler Myers, WPG*
39. Brandon Montour, ANA (RFA)
40. Justin Faulk, CAR ........ and the hurricanes fan states this guy is an elite top 10 defenseman
- LeafsFan23

So Ryan Mcdonaugh isn't top 40? See atleast 15 20 names I'd put behind him

He's a consistent goal scorer but never scored 40, 50 or 60. He's a lot like Sundin in that regard. He's also never really had very good players to play with either so it wouldn't surprise me to see him bust open and score 50 one year with the right linemates. Tavares with Marner 5 on 5 and Matthews on the PP, you'd hope to have two 50 goal scorers together if everything goes perfectly.
- Unholy_Goalie

He has made average wingers into multi millionaires. Tavares was never going to score more than he did based on what he had to work with. He's also a lot better than Sundin was.

So Ryan Mcdonaugh isn't top 40? See atleast 15 20 names I'd put behind him
- Marcelus

Stupid list. A guy who has never played an NHL game is ranked 15.
Hockey people never cease to disappoint with their stupidity.

He has made average wingers into multi millionaires. Tavares was never going to score more than he did based on what he had to work with. He's also a lot better than Sundin was.
- Mr_Smokey

That's certainly debatable. Sundin did the same with poop wingers for years and always scored 30-40 and 80 points. Sundin was also physically dominating. He didn't hit like Lindros but he always used his size to control the offensive zone. Sundin has a higher goal per game and point per game average and played 1,300+ games. It's a lot closer than you think.

He's a consistent goal scorer but never scored 40, 50 or 60. He's a lot like Sundin in that regard. He's also never really had very good players to play with either so it wouldn't surprise me to see him bust open and score 50 one year with the right linemates. Tavares with Marner 5 on 5 and Matthews on the PP, you'd hope to have two 50 goal scorers together if everything goes perfectly.
- Unholy_Goalie

If he plays with Marner..he could get in the 45 range I have no doubt

Kevin Papetti
‏ @KPapetti
Here's a list of Tavares' most common linemates over the years. It's safe to say: he's a fun centre to play with.

He has made average wingers into multi millionaires. Tavares was never going to score more than he did based on what he had to work with. He's also a lot better than Sundin was.
- Mr_Smokey

What...

If he plays with Marner..he could get in the 45 range I have no doubt




- senstroll

And Marner could too. We're talking about a 20 year old kid who's already scoring 22 goals practically by himself. Natural progression should get him up to 30+ alone. Then Tavares on top of it could put him near 40. Will that happen next year? Maybe. But at some point over the next 7 years, all these guys will be in their prime at the same time. Like 3 or 4 years from now, it's going to be scary how much offense they could be producing.

He has made average wingers into multi millionaires. Tavares was never going to score more than he did based on what he had to work with. He's also a lot better than Sundin was.
- Mr_Smokey

I'll insert this here....

"Hockey people never cease to disappoint with their stupidity"

- AdamFrench

Might have flagged this by mistake. Sorry

That's certainly debatable. Sundin did the same with poop wingers for years and always scored 30-40 and 80 points. Sundin was also physically dominating. He didn't hit like Lindros but he always used his size to control the offensive zone. Sundin has a higher goal per game and point per game average and played 1,300+ games. It's a lot closer than you think.
- Unholy_Goalie

Sundin had the size aspect over Tavares, that's all.
Sundin not do for his scrub linemates what Tavares did for his.