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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
I could see the Ducks and Toronto doing a deal. Brandon Montour probably available if Nylander the return. Not sure what the complimentary pieces would be. Toronto needs D, Ducks need a C, especially if Kesler unable to play.
- quackup

No.
Montour is not worth nylander
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:48 PM ET
I didn't say that.

I said he's top 10 in goals over the last 5 years... which he is. He's 9th.

Now does he suck in his own end? Hell yeah he does. But that doesn't take away from him being a solid PP option.

- BINGO!


How does that help the Leafs? Do you picture the Leafs having any issues scoring on the power play?
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:48 PM ET
NHL.com top 40 ranked defensemen for 2018-2019

1. Victor Hedman, TBL 
2. P.K. Subban, NSH
3. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
4. Brent Burns, SJS
5. Erik Karlsson, OTT*
6. Drew Doughty, LAK*
7. Seth Jones, CBJ 
8. John Klingberg, DAL
9. John Carlson, WSH
10. Roman Josi, NSH
11. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
12. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
13. Torey Krug, BOS
14. Tyson Barrie, COL
15. Rasmus Dahlin, BUF
16. Kris Letang, PIT
17. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
18. Keith Yandle, FLA 
19. Ryan Ellis, NSH*
20. Zach Werenski, CBJ**
21. Charlie McAvoy, BOS**
22. Mark Giordano, CGY
23. Matt Dumba, MIN (RFA)
24. Ivan Provorov, PHI**
25. Morgan Rielly, TOR
26. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI*
27. Shea Weber, MTL (INJ.)
28. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
29. Rasmus Ristolainen, BUF
30. Ryan Suter, MIN (INJ.)
31. Jake Gardiner, TOR*
32. Jake Muzzin, LAK
33. Kevin Shattenkirk, NYR (INJ.)
34. Mikhail Sergachev, TBL
35. Mattias Ekholm, NSH
36. Colton Parayko, STL
37. Erik Johnson, COL (INJ.)
38. Tyler Myers, WPG*
39. Brandon Montour, ANA (RFA)
40. Justin Faulk, CAR ........ and the hurricanes fan states this guy is an elite top 10 defenseman
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 4 @ 12:49 PM ET
How anyone can actually watch the Nathan’s hot dog eating competition is beyond me
- RickJames77

Watching it right now on ESPN.

Go Joey Chestnut!
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 4 @ 12:50 PM ET
Hamonic, Sergachev, pretty much all 3 times Phaneuf was traded, Seth Jones, etc.
- poopstash


11th or 12th overall plus other picks for a borderline top 4 in harmonic, a young winger/center considered a blue chip young player (why does that sound familiar) for Sergachev. Seth Jones went for a guy penciled in to be a number 1 center. Good examples of what I asked for in deals for top 4 d men but also a really good examples to make my point for me
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:50 PM ET
NHL.com top 40 ranked defensemen for 2018-2019

1. Victor Hedman, TBL 
2. P.K. Subban, NSH
3. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
4. Brent Burns, SJS
5. Erik Karlsson, OTT*
6. Drew Doughty, LAK*
7. Seth Jones, CBJ 
8. John Klingberg, DAL
9. John Carlson, WSH
10. Roman Josi, NSH
11. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
12. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
13. Torey Krug, BOS
14. Tyson Barrie, COL
15. Rasmus Dahlin, BUF
16. Kris Letang, PIT
17. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
18. Keith Yandle, FLA 
19. Ryan Ellis, NSH*
20. Zach Werenski, CBJ**
21. Charlie McAvoy, BOS**
22. Mark Giordano, CGY
23. Matt Dumba, MIN (RFA)
24. Ivan Provorov, PHI**
25. Morgan Rielly, TOR
26. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI*
27. Shea Weber, MTL (INJ.)
28. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
29. Rasmus Ristolainen, BUF
30. Ryan Suter, MIN (INJ.)
31. Jake Gardiner, TOR*
32. Jake Muzzin, LAK
33. Kevin Shattenkirk, NYR (INJ.)
34. Mikhail Sergachev, TBL
35. Mattias Ekholm, NSH
36. Colton Parayko, STL
37. Erik Johnson, COL (INJ.)
38. Tyler Myers, WPG*
39. Brandon Montour, ANA (RFA)
40. Justin Faulk, CAR ........ and the hurricanes fan states this guy is an elite top 10 defenseman

- LeafsFan23


You know you want him for Nylander
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 4 @ 12:51 PM ET
NHL.com top 40 ranked defensemen for 2018-2019

1. Victor Hedman, TBL 
2. P.K. Subban, NSH
3. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
4. Brent Burns, SJS
5. Erik Karlsson, OTT*
6. Drew Doughty, LAK*
7. Seth Jones, CBJ 
8. John Klingberg, DAL
9. John Carlson, WSH
10. Roman Josi, NSH
11. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
12. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
13. Torey Krug, BOS
14. Tyson Barrie, COL
15. Rasmus Dahlin, BUF
16. Kris Letang, PIT
17. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
18. Keith Yandle, FLA 
19. Ryan Ellis, NSH*
20. Zach Werenski, CBJ**
21. Charlie McAvoy, BOS**
22. Mark Giordano, CGY
23. Matt Dumba, MIN (RFA)
24. Ivan Provorov, PHI**
25. Morgan Rielly, TOR
26. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI*
27. Shea Weber, MTL (INJ.)
28. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
29. Rasmus Ristolainen, BUF
30. Ryan Suter, MIN (INJ.)
31. Jake Gardiner, TOR*
32. Jake Muzzin, LAK
33. Kevin Shattenkirk, NYR (INJ.)
34. Mikhail Sergachev, TBL
35. Mattias Ekholm, NSH
36. Colton Parayko, STL
37. Erik Johnson, COL (INJ.)
38. Tyler Myers, WPG*
39. Brandon Montour, ANA (RFA)
40. Justin Faulk, CAR ........ and the hurricanes fan states this guy is an elite top 10 defenseman

- LeafsFan23


Is this a fantasy ranking?
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
Is this a fantasy ranking?
- GreatGigInTheSky


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
You know you want him for Nylander
- DDM-Coga


Leafs are just going to score 8 goals/game, no need to make trades for D.

Go Vegas Go
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
Watching it right now on ESPN.

Go Joey Chestnut!

- Atomic Wedgie

4 minutes left - 11 hot dog lead.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:54 PM ET
No.
Montour is not worth nylander

- Fakepartofme


Agree, anyone can ask about Nylander - but a second rate d-man is not going to get you Nylander. Willie and Tavares scored about the same number of points in their first two full seasons. You don't trade that for spam.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 4 @ 12:54 PM ET

I wouldn't take Faulk for free, it would make our team worse. We can't ice 6 Dmen who can't play D.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:54 PM ET
Leafs are just going to score 8 goals/game, no need to make trades for D.

Go Vegas Go

- Garnie


why you have to do that to me...dream crusher
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jul 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
4 minutes left - 11 hot dog lead.
- Atomic Wedgie


It's so gross.

Plus, there's no drama. Joey Chestnut was obviously gonna win.
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:56 PM ET
You know you want him for Nylander
- DDM-Coga


Hermie doesn't like to make toys.
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:56 PM ET
Watching it right now on ESPN.

Go Joey Chestnut!

- Atomic Wedgie



The Gull is losing!






#freeHOHO
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
4 minutes left - 11 hot dog lead.
- Atomic Wedgie

1 minute left - 17 hot dog lead.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
NHL.com top 40 ranked defensemen for 2018-2019

1. Victor Hedman, TBL 
2. P.K. Subban, NSH
3. Dustin Byfuglien, WPG
4. Brent Burns, SJS
5. Erik Karlsson, OTT*
6. Drew Doughty, LAK*
7. Seth Jones, CBJ 
8. John Klingberg, DAL
9. John Carlson, WSH
10. Roman Josi, NSH
11. Shayne Gostisbehere, PHI
12. Dougie Hamilton, CAR
13. Torey Krug, BOS
14. Tyson Barrie, COL
15. Rasmus Dahlin, BUF
16. Kris Letang, PIT
17. Alex Pietrangelo, STL
18. Keith Yandle, FLA 
19. Ryan Ellis, NSH*
20. Zach Werenski, CBJ**
21. Charlie McAvoy, BOS**
22. Mark Giordano, CGY
23. Matt Dumba, MIN (RFA)
24. Ivan Provorov, PHI**
25. Morgan Rielly, TOR
26. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, ARI*
27. Shea Weber, MTL (INJ.)
28. Aaron Ekblad, FLA
29. Rasmus Ristolainen, BUF
30. Ryan Suter, MIN (INJ.)
31. Jake Gardiner, TOR*
32. Jake Muzzin, LAK
33. Kevin Shattenkirk, NYR (INJ.)
34. Mikhail Sergachev, TBL
35. Mattias Ekholm, NSH
36. Colton Parayko, STL
37. Erik Johnson, COL (INJ.)
38. Tyler Myers, WPG*
39. Brandon Montour, ANA (RFA)
40. Justin Faulk, CAR ........ and the hurricanes fan states this guy is an elite top 10 defenseman

- LeafsFan23


winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
You know you want him for Nylander
- DDM-Coga



LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:58 PM ET

- AdamFrench


All 5 fingers
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 4 @ 12:58 PM ET
64 hot dogs in total.

That can't be healthy.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
11th or 12th overall plus other picks for a borderline top 4 in harmonic, a young winger/center considered a blue chip young player (why does that sound familiar) for Sergachev. Seth Jones went for a guy penciled in to be a number 1 center. Good examples of what I asked for in deals for top 4 d men but also a really good examples to make my point for me
- ChrisMS


The 11th or 12th overall was not determined at the time of the trade. It could have been closer to a 2nd round pick.

I agree on the young winger/center considered a blue chip player sounding familiar for Nylander. Does Faulk sound familiar for Sergachev? No. Not even close.

Seth Jones was traded for a guy penciled in to be a number 1 center. Is Faulk Seth Jones? Again, not even close.

You asked me for one example of when a top four D with term was traded without an overpay.

I just gave you 3 from the top of my dome.

Just because Chia was stupid enough to trade Hall for Larsson that does not make the market forever
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 12:59 PM ET

- AdamFrench


Big buff is exactly what the leafs need... guys an animal..
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
Any chance Nashville moves Ellis?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 4 @ 1:01 PM ET
Leafs could actually use a guy like spurgeon over dumba. Underrated rhd who is strong on both ends. Hes not big, but you'd never be unhappy with him on your team.
- mnMild


Wait, what exactly does this guy do in the locker-room.
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