Prefer just De Haan

But if the LHD,RHD matters to Dubas

Gardiner+a prospect for Faulk

Sigh De Haan for 4 years.

Rielly/Faulk
De Haan-Z
Dermott-Carick
Holl

That is a good d group
- Santo_44

Lots of noise on Twitter that it's close for de haan. 4x3.8

Might be 17 million
M Martin was paid bonus July 1st 1.5 mil

Contract 1 million off books
16+ 1 = 17 million

Add 5 million when Horton goes back on official ltir = $22 million
- BreathLeafs2015

That's not how it works, Martin cap hit is 2.5mil.

Seabrook and Anisemov coming to Toronto for Tavares.
- BlackhawkMike

Leafs traded for Seabrook years ago. Don't you read jackels stuff?

Might be 17 million
M Martin was paid bonus July 1st 1.5 mil

Contract 1 million off books
16+ 1 = 17 million

Add 5 million when Horton goes back on official ltir = $22 million
- BreathLeafs2015

I’m not factoring Tavares contract @ $11 million
Nevertheless we still have some space

No and no
- burn

his best season in the nhl was 25 points.
no cups, no individual awards.
drafted in 09, 7 seasons in the league.
27 years old.
just a 5-6 or khl guy.
he's a bum.

I have been summoned to give my thoughts and review of this trade.

Pros:
-Free up 2.5 million in cap space for future signings of Marner, Matthews, Nylander and Kapanen
-Matt Martin sucks
-The level of butt hurt on HFBoards

Cons:
-The Leafs are softer than ever, we are talking baby poop soft.
-Matt Martin was tough and made hits
-HFBoards posters all saying Lou Lamoriello still working for the Leafs because he made this deal

Review: Indifferent about this trade, stay or nay it really made no difference in the long run.
HFBoards posters are very stupid. I would not be surprised if many of them have HB accounts also.

That is all.
- The Deal Man

Heard Levio has been hitting the gym and got metal implanted in his knuckles. were fine.

Lots of noise on Twitter that it's close for de haan. 4x3.8
- Tumbleweed

if that is real that is a very bad deal.

if that is real that is a very bad deal.
- The Deal Man

have you read the art of the deal?

his best season in the nhl was 25 points.
no cups, no individual awards.
drafted in 09, 7 seasons in the league.
27 years old.
just a 5-6 or khl guy.
he's a bum.
- The Deal Man

No one called him lidstrom

He's more than a 5-6 guy.

If the leafs got him for a good contract that would be very helpful.

his best season in the nhl was 25 points.
no cups, no individual awards.
drafted in 09, 7 seasons in the league.
27 years old.
just a 5-6 or khl guy.
he's a bum.
- The Deal Man

What individual awards can a Dman win besides the Norris? Are you saying if a Dman doesn't have a Norris or a cup he's not worth signing as a free agent?

his best season in the nhl was 25 points.
no cups, no individual awards.
drafted in 09, 7 seasons in the league.
27 years old.
just a 5-6 or khl guy.
he's a bum.
- The Deal Man

You must hate the Tavares signing...

I'm hearing 5yrs at 4.5M/yr
- Symba007

1 year 8 mi.

then a 3 year 2.8 mill contract

No one called him lidstrom

He's more than a 5-6 guy.

If the leafs got him for a good contract that would be very helpful.
- burn

If the leafs sign him I see Gardiner being gone.

You must hate the Tavares signing...
- Steven_Seagull

Lol

What individual awards can a Dman win besides the Norris? Are you saying if a Dman doesn't have a Norris or a cup he's not worth signing as a free agent?
- HealthyScratch6

Especially if you're spending 3-4 mil on him

No one called him lidstrom

He's more than a 5-6 guy.

If the leafs got him for a good contract that would be very helpful.
- burn

what exactly does he bring to the leafs for 3.8 million a season?
are we going to pretend he is a great defensive defenseman with fantasmical positioning? what brah?

If the leafs sign him I see Gardiner being gone.
- HealthyScratch6

Probably.

You must hate the Tavares signing...
- Steven_Seagull

are you comparing tavares to calvin duh haan brah?

what exactly does he bring to the leafs for 3.8 million a season?
are we going to pretend he is a great defensive defenseman with fantasmical positioning? what brah?
- The Deal Man

Leafs need him to be an upgrade defensively over Gardiner that's all.

If the leafs sign him I see Gardiner being gone.
- HealthyScratch6

time for him to go anyways regardless if they sign calvin klein.

time for him to go anyways regardless if they sign calvin klein.
- The Deal Man

Or Giorgio Armani

Leafs need him to be an upgrade defensively over Gardiner that's all.
- HealthyScratch6

but is he actually an upgrade? that's the problem.

Leafs need him to be an upgrade defensively over Gardiner that's all.
- HealthyScratch6

Who do think they flip him (51) for? The Canes are always mentioned lately but Faulk isn’t the answer and the others are Gards+. Anyone else worth takin a shot at realistically?

are you comparing tavares to calvin duh haan brah?
- The Deal Man

If you’re going to use the lack of individual awards and/or a Cup as a reason why a player is a “bum,” then be consistent...brah.

Realistically I wonder who's the best RHD the leafs can get by packaging Gardiner and kapanen.