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BorjeFan4Ever
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Jul 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
You could've stopped at “Tavares,” and the answer would be the same.




yes

- Steven_Seagull


its July 4th bud... head south of the border for the day... lots of picnics to crap on... and steal fries
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
its probably fair, but I dont want to trade Nylander
- senstroll

Hard to argue that. I'd like to see the team play as is before as well. But if you have a shot at a shut down future #1 like Parayko I don't think you can pass it up.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:50 AM ET
We've come a long way lol
- LeafsFan23

Bozak
Grabovski
Brent
Boyce

BorjeFan4Ever
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Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
Why make it a larger deal? Assuming STL needs more depth on the wings, and the fact their D is shored up, I would think a 1 for 1 + picks would be okay.

Parayko is signed until 2021/22 at $5.5 and STL has about $9MM in cap space. Nylander won't get more than 6.5-7. It makes sense. The only question is which player is worth more imo?

- Pen15



I don't want to move Nylander either.. but as part of a deal for Paryako I would - but he's about the only RHD that I would consider moving Nylander for - all things considered age, deal, style of player etc.

I would rather move Gardiner for LHD - like Edmundson. Sell high on Gardiner before his contract demands turn him into JvR version 2.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
I saw this yesterday. You might be a little high on Duchpag

some of these dont make sense to me..like Wash. Backstrom/Kuz should be higher imo


- senstroll

Why are Lowry and Scheifele melded into one player?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:52 AM ET
Jon Morosi
‏Verified account @jonmorosi
Hockey trade idea we just kicked around on @FAN590: Would Mitch Marner for Justin Faulk be a wise deal for #Leafs?

Holy (frank)ing poop what's wrong with people
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
What does everyone think of a Nylander for Parayko swap? Fair trade or would we need to add more pieces?
- Pen15


Oh sweet Buddha help me
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
What does everyone think of a Nylander for Parayko swap? Fair trade or would we need to add more pieces?
- Pen15

No.
Tavares was sold on the players hed have on the team.
Keep marner and nylander at all cost.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Jon Morosi
‏Verified account @jonmorosi
Hockey trade idea we just kicked around on @FAN590: Would Mitch Marner for Justin Faulk be a wise deal for #Leafs?

Holy (frank)ing poop what's wrong with people

- Zezel



is the name Moronsi or Morosi? holy sh__... Marner for Faulk.

too much alcohol
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Jon Morosi
‏Verified account @jonmorosi
Hockey trade idea we just kicked around on @FAN590: Would Mitch Marner for Justin Faulk be a wise deal for #Leafs?

Holy (frank)ing poop what's wrong with people

- Zezel


Who cares? Just give it to me.
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Jon Morosi
‏Verified account @jonmorosi
Hockey trade idea we just kicked around on @FAN590: Would Mitch Marner for Justin Faulk be a wise deal for #Leafs?

Holy (frank)ing poop what's wrong with people

- Zezel


Why do some people think faulk is such a high talent defensemen.. he's mediocre at best.. Mitch marner, nylander, Matthews, arnt going anywhere.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Jul 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Jon Morosi
‏Verified account @jonmorosi
Hockey trade idea we just kicked around on @FAN590: Would Mitch Marner for Justin Faulk be a wise deal for #Leafs?

Holy (frank)ing poop what's wrong with people

- Zezel



what color of Koolaid indicates stupid?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Jul 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
Why do some people think faulk is such a high talent defensemen.. he's mediocre at best.. Mitch marner, nylander, Matthews, arnt going anywhere.
- LeafsFan23


this baffles me as well.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
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Jul 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
what color of Koolaid indicates stupid?
- BorjeFan4Ever


White alkaline Kool Aid powder baked and broken up into little chunks and smoked off of tinfoil
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
No.
Tavares was sold on the players hed have on the team.
Keep marner and nylander at all cost.

- Fakepartofme

Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
No.
Tavares was sold on the players hed have on the team.
Keep marner and nylander at all cost.

- Fakepartofme

Not really. Tavares was sold on playing with Marner from what I've read. Never anything about Nylander.

I think the team becomes way more balanced if you added Parayko at the cost of Nylander.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
Why are Lowry and Scheifele melded into one player?
- AdamFrench


cuz they needed to leave a Little on top
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
No.
Tavares was sold on the players hed have on the team.
Keep marner and nylander at all cost.

- Fakepartofme


Yeah, during the interview process he was told who was staying. It would be betrayal at this point to move any of those players.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
I don't want to move Nylander either.. but as part of a deal for Paryako I would - but he's about the only RHD that I would consider moving Nylander for - all things considered age, deal, style of player etc.

I would rather move Gardiner for LHD - like Edmundson. Sell high on Gardiner before his contract demands turn him into JvR version 2.

- BorjeFan4Ever

Agree on the Gardiner front. He's going to demand Zaitsev's contract in a year from now.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
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Jul 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
White alkaline Kool Aid powder baked and broken up into little chunks and smoked off of tinfoil
- Zezel


I would never have thought of that... but I could image it working
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
Yeah, during the interview process he was told who was staying. It would be betrayal at this point to move any of those players.
- TrashPanda

How do we know Nylander was part of that conversation though? That's never been reported anywhere. I've only seen Marner and Matthews named.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 4 @ 11:00 AM ET
Not really. Tavares was sold on playing with Marner from what I've read. Never anything about Nylander.

I think the team becomes way more balanced if you added Parayko at the cost of Nylander.

- Pen15

Thats because nylander would stay with matthews. You remove nylander, marner may move to matthews.
We lost at lot of goals with bozak and jvr. Jt replaces some of that...but cant afford to lose nylander right now.
Lets first see how kap and johnsson do.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Jul 4 @ 11:02 AM ET
Agree on the Gardiner front. He's going to demand Zaitsev's contract in a year from now.
- Pen15


I honestly think Gardiner is going to be one of those guys who sees himself as 7M+ player... I don't dislike him... but recognize the "warts".

He's a rover.. not a real defenseman... in the traditional sense, can't really WANT to use him on the PK, and he can't reliably get the puck out of his own zone under pressure. As the league speeds up this will only become more of a problem.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 4 @ 11:04 AM ET
I honestly think Gardiner is going to be one of those guys who sees himself as 7M+ player... I don't dislike him... but recognize the "warts".

He's a rover.. not a real defenseman... in the traditional sense, can't really WANT to use him on the PK, and he can't reliably get the puck out of his own zone under pressure. As the league speeds up this will only become more of a problem.

- BorjeFan4Ever

Agreed on his deficiencies. I'm frankly over the flash and promise he shows sometimes, given that it's usually followed with a pizza through the middle of the ice.

If he thinks of himself as anything above $6MM I'd trade him now while we can still get a return.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
Why do some people think faulk is such a high talent defensemen.. he's mediocre at best.. Mitch marner, nylander, Matthews, arnt going anywhere.
- LeafsFan23


Probably because in the last 5 years he's top 10 among defensemen in goal scoring?
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