Leafs sign Def J. Holl to 2 yrs. @ .675 per yr. - yeah baby Holzer , Holzie

Wait. So we got JT and the Islanders get LK and MM?

At what point do the Leafs come away unscathed?
- walshyleafsfan

Maybe de haan soon too

Trouba or Myers might be the best target. Only team I can think of with an over abundance of RHD and lacking in the left side.
- HealthyScratch6

I think I’d rather Gards over Myers

I think I’d rather Gards over Myers
- Garnie

Yeah but babs lefty/right.

Both have one year left and Myers a little more expensive

I would trade Gardiner now TBH. His value is never going to be higher...it's just a case of finding the guy you want on the blueline to make it worthwhile
- AngryWhiteMale

How high could his value be after blowing another game 7?....it’s still so fresh in everyone’s mind

Yeah but babs lefty/right.

Both have one year left and Myers a little more expensive
- burn

I’d just move Jake to the right side...but I’ve never been a fan of Myers.

I said at the draft to Edmonton so they could take Bouchard.

But now, they can try to go after Pietrangelo. Maybe a 3-way deal with Ottawa that sends Karlsson to St. Louis.
- Unholy_Goalie

Why would st Louis want to give up pietrangelo?

Why would st Louis want to give up pietrangelo?
- HealthyScratch6

They wouldn’t I don’t think...

I think I’d rather Gards over Myers
- Garnie

Agreed.

I'd prefer Faulk, a lot because he has another year on his contract...but because he's a better fit on the Right side and on the PP. we need a big shot.

I said at the draft to Edmonton so they could take Bouchard.

But now, they can try to go after Pietrangelo. Maybe a 3-way deal with Ottawa that sends Karlsson to St. Louis.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'm honestly wondering what it would take to get a guy like Ekblad. I know it's the same division but I think we'd solve our Defence problems for a good decade if we get our hands on him.

Maybe de haan soon too
- burn

De Haan and Faulk

Still holding out that dream

I'm honestly wondering what it would take to get a guy like Ekblad. I know it's the same division but I think we'd solve our Defence problems for a good decade if we get our hands on him.
- AngryWhiteMale

Highly doubt the Leafs get any d that will cost more than 5 million

And I can say with a lot of certainty that Willie isn't going anywhere.

I'm for keeping Gardiner if his next contract is manageable. He fits the team identity well. He can skate, pass, carry the puck, he's a very capable PP point man (not much of a shot, but his puck handling along the blue line is terrific). Overall, he's more of a difference-maker than any safer but less offensive depth option we could reasonably hope to acquire.

Plus, it helps that the Leafs have two players in this mould (Rielly and Gardiner) that can be deployed on separate pairings. You want at least two top-4 D that can do this.

3 ways never happen, except with your mom!
- .HOHO.

Hoffman was almost a 3-way deal.

She's dead. How do you feel now?

Why would st Louis want to give up pietrangelo?
- HealthyScratch6

To add Karlsson.

I'm honestly wondering what it would take to get a guy like Ekblad. I know it's the same division but I think we'd solve our Defence problems for a good decade if we get our hands on him.
- AngryWhiteMale

Ekblad should be untouchable. You'd have to give up Nylander plus a significant amount more, if not Matthews 1 for 1.

How high could his value be after blowing another game 7?....it’s still so fresh in everyone’s mind
- Garnie

Gardiner wasn't solely at fault for game 7.

Andersen gave up some bad goals. The whole team failed to maintain pressure and defend the lead. The whole team has a piece of the blame.

Reality is, Gardiner is a 50+ point defender who was playing #1 minutes. Gardiner is not a #1 defender. When you put a #3 or #4 defender in the #1 role, bad things happen. It's like blaming Kadri for not scoring as much as Matthews if Kadri was playing in Matthews' spot. It's not because he's a bad player, it's just not his role.

lol
have been saying this ever since buffalo 'moved on' from lehner, mr taxman
you're so full of yourself

in fact since the end of the season i have been saying leafs need an upgrade in goal
- MaximusAurelius

Karlsson had Salming and Sundin jerseys growing up.
- Unholy_Goalie

- nbboy

As a starter, with a bad defense in front of him, he put up good numbers in 2017. He wasn't able to do it again last year and probably won't do well on a bad Islander team this year. But as a back-up, on a 1 year deal, it would have been an upgrade for the Leafs.

Lehtonen could be alright as a back-up for the Leafs, he's one of the few decent ones left. He's always had injury troubles and bad numbers as a starter the past few years but if he's expected to play 25-30 games, it could work out nicely. His numbers were alright last year playing 37 games. Get him down to 25-30 games, rest Andersen more often and have him fresh for the playoffs.

Do people really think Lou is pissed at the Leafs for signing Tavares...

Gardiner wasn't solely at fault for game 7.

Andersen gave up some bad goals. The whole team failed to maintain pressure and defend the lead. The whole team has a piece of the blame.

Reality is, Gardiner is a 50+ point defender who was playing #1 minutes. Gardiner is not a #1 defender. When you put a #3 or #4 defender in the #1 role, bad things happen. It's like blaming Kadri for not scoring as much as Matthews if Kadri was playing in Matthews' spot. It's not because he's a bad player, it's just not his role.
- Unholy_Goalie

We had 4 guys basically playing the top mins - Gardiner had way too many giveaways and is soft in our zone. Not saying we need to get rid of him but we need a better 5/6 so the top 4 don’t get so many mins. Hopefully we get a couple good D and we slide Z down to the 3rd pair.

We had 4 guys basically playing the top mins - Gardiner had way too many giveaways and is soft in our zone. Not saying we need to get rid of him but we need a better 5/6 so the top 4 don’t get so many mins. Hopefully we get a couple good D and we slide Z down to the 3rd pair.
- Garnie

The Leafs need a top pairing RHD and another top-4 D and that's even if they re-sign Gardiner too.

It should be Rielly + Pietrangelo (or any other legit top pairing RHD) and Gardiner + top-4 RHD like Pesce. Zaitsev can be traded if and when Liljegren is ready or bottom pairing plus Dermott.

The bottom pairing could be improved but it's not the real problem. When the games get close in the playoffs, you want a legit top-4.

As a starter, with a bad defense in front of him, he put up good numbers in 2017. He wasn't able to do it again last year and probably won't do well on a bad Islander team this year. But as a back-up, on a 1 year deal, it would have been an upgrade for the Leafs.

Lehtonen could be alright as a back-up for the Leafs, he's one of the few decent ones left. He's always had injury troubles and bad numbers as a starter the past few years but if he's expected to play 25-30 games, it could work out nicely. His numbers were alright last year playing 37 games. Get him down to 25-30 games, rest Andersen more often and have him fresh for the playoffs.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yeah but what about the stink still left on him.

STOP B"YS F FUKSAKE....



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