Thanks for providing the transcript. It was a good read.

It was funny that someone asked about De Haas being the #7 when he's not even on an NHL contract. I think Hextall will sign one of these guys as insurance since Morin is out till 2019. The longer they go without contracts, they cheaper they should be.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../2019/toi/all/defense/ufa
- Feanor

Agreed.

I also still think he possibly signs a bargain deal center that can at least be an upgrade from Lehtera, center the 4th line and kill penalties.

I don't think you are factoring in how much salaries are about to increase after the signings of this summer and the cap about to hit 80 million. Today's 8 million was 6.5 just a couple of years ago. Tyler Myers got 5.5 per coming right off his ELC and that was 7 years ago. Provy may not get 8, but it if he goes 8 and I think that's what Hextall will be aiming for, it won't be less than 7.5 million per.
- BiggE

I see what you are saying but there are some odd comparables out there. Also a lot depends on what the kid in Colombus gets. PK gets what 9 and OEL gets 8? I just don't see him getting 8 per, not that i would have any problem giving him 8x8. I just don't see it happening.

you excited laughton coughed up 21?
- -davies-

wow he did? nice

Yes, and that was 2011. If this was happening today, Doughty would be getting 8 years and 75 million.
- BiggE

Ekbland just got 8 years 60 million, 7.5 per. Provorov is not getting anything less then that.

Ummm Drew Doughty finished 3rd in the Norris his second year in the league with 59 points... Try again.
- ClaudeFather

Doughty's CH% was 10.89. Under a $79.5m cap that would equate to a $8,657,550 AAV. If the cap goes up to $84m for 19-20 when Provorov's extension will start, then it would equate to $9,147,600.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/drew-doughty

Doughty's CH% was 10.89. Under a $79.5m cap that would equate to a $8,657,550 AAV. If the cap goes up to $84m for 19-20 when Provorov's extension will start, then it would equate to $9,147,600.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/drew-doughty
- Feanor

Exactly

Doughty's CH% was 10.89. Under a $79.5m cap that would equate to a $8,657,550 AAV. If the cap goes up to $84m for 19-20 when Provorov's extension will start, then it would equate to $9,147,600.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/drew-doughty
- Feanor

Hopefully we find out in the next month or so what this kid will get, He's the best Dman we've had in a long time and i would have no problem giving him a blank check.

Hopefully we find out in the next month or so what this kid will get, He's the best Dman we've had in a long time and i would have no problem giving him a blank check.
- ClaudeFather

Mr. Macintosh

Agreed.

I also still think he possibly signs a bargain deal center that can at least be an upgrade from Lehtera, center the 4th line and kill penalties.
- BiggE

Not much out there in centers though.

Nick Shore? Maybe.

Still feel a trade is best bet. Could you swap Weal for a bottom 6 center who maybe a team wants to lose salary or term?

EDIT: Maybe something like Zack Smith from Ottawa for Weal and Wiese? Ottawa gets cap savings and less term on contracts. Flyers get a possible 3rd 4th line center who adds grit and kills penalties. Did put up 25 goals couple seasons ago.

Mr. Macintosh
- YuenglingJagr

Not much out there in centers though.

Nick Shore? Maybe.

Still feel a trade is best bet. Could you swap Weal for a bottom 6 center who maybe a team wants to lose salary or term?
- J35Bacher

Weal? Maybe, but I doubt it, I just don't think he has that much value anymore. With 2 3rd round picks in 2019, I wouldn't be opposing to moving one of them along with B level prospect like Vecchione and see if that can land you a 3C on a reasonable deal and with no more than 2 years left to go on the contract.

Or I'd just see if I can sign a guy like Letestu for one year, even if you have to pay a little more than you'd want.

Weal? Maybe, but I doubt it, I just don't think he has that much value anymore. With 2 3rd round picks in 2019, I wouldn't be opposing to moving one of them along with B level prospect like Vecchione and see if that can land you a 3C on a reasonable deal and with no more than 2 years left to go on the contract.

Or I'd just see if I can sign a guy like Letestu for one year, even if you have to pay a little more than you'd want.
- BiggE

Does Letestu bring enough offense? Zack Smith kind of interest me as he kills penalties and brings an edge to his game.

Weal? Maybe, but I doubt it, I just don't think he has that much value anymore. With 2 3rd round picks in 2019, I wouldn't be opposing to moving one of them along with B level prospect like Vecchione and see if that can land you a 3C on a reasonable deal and with no more than 2 years left to go on the contract.

Or I'd just see if I can sign a guy like Letestu for one year, even if you have to pay a little more than you'd want.
- BiggE

not a fan

Not much out there in centers though.

Nick Shore? Maybe.

Still feel a trade is best bet. Could you swap Weal for a bottom 6 center who maybe a team wants to lose salary or term?

EDIT: Maybe something like Zack Smith from Ottawa for Weal and Wiese? Ottawa gets cap savings and less term on contracts. Flyers get a possible 3rd 4th line center who adds grit and kills penalties. Did put up 25 goals couple seasons ago.
- J35Bacher

Not understanding why we have to make it a 3C. What about Gudas, Weal and a draft pick offer to Chicago to see if we could pry Saad away due to their cap issues. JVR/Saad on left side and G to Center.

It doesn't have to be Saad...I would think getting a top 6 LW would be much easier with the pieces we have to give away.

I'm starting to think people on here don't understand contracts in the NHL work. Do i think Provy is better than Ryan Mcdonaugh, yes, OEL? Maybe not at the moment but he could be. This is his first contract he's going to sign outside of the entry level. I'm going 6x6 and I don't think he will have an issue with this at all. He is NOT getting 8x8, only chance of that is if the Colombus kid somehow gets a huge contract and like 8+ and Provy's camp pushes for the same type deal. He isn't getting OEL money.
- ClaudeFather

If they can amicably get 6x6 that would be cool, but I don't think it'll happen.

I do think he's better than McDonaugh, and I think he's better (and more important to his team) than OEL. And I think he's going to be the best d-man in the league one day.

Bottom line for me: I don't care how much and for how long as long as he stays in orange and black.

It's weird how I still think of him first and foremost as a near elite defender. His points, for some reason, seemed to come sneakily under the radar for me last year. Each time I look at his stats I'm still shocked at how well he produced at that age.
- Crimsoninja

Imho, his points are gravy. He's such a good d-man, and will get better. I hope to see him anchoring the team for many years to come.

not a fan
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah, I'm really not either. There just isn't much out there at center right now without making a trade. I just figured Letestu, at the least, is better than Lehtera and more of a sure thing than a kid like Vecchione. On a one year deal, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I'd hope that Laughton could beat him out for the 3C spot (though I really think Laughton's skill set would be better on the wing) and if that's the case, I like Letestu better at 4C than Lehtera, Vecchs or Weal.

Not understanding why we have to make it a 3C. What about Gudas, Weal and a draft pick offer to Chicago to see if we could pry Saad away due to their cap issues. JVR/Saad on left side and G to Center.

It doesn't have to be Saad...I would think getting a top 6 LW would be much easier with the pieces we have to give away.
- juiced

As people have pointed out before, Giroux just had a career year at LW. I highly doubt they want to move him back to center unless one of Couturier or Patrick gets injured (God forbid!)

Not understanding why we have to make it a 3C. What about Gudas, Weal and a draft pick offer to Chicago to see if we could pry Saad away due to their cap issues. JVR/Saad on left side and G to Center.

It doesn't have to be Saad...I would think getting a top 6 LW would be much easier with the pieces we have to give away.
- juiced

I don't think they really want to move him to center. They like the size down the middle and also now with him on the wing, it allows you to have your best players in the top 6. Looking to the future you then insert Frost or Vorobyev in the middle. Would they do it if there were injuries and needed to...Probably. but I think they like him on the wing.

I don't think they really want to move him to center. They like the size down the middle and also now with him on the wing, it allows you to have your best players in the top 6. Looking to the future you then insert Frost or Vorobyev in the middle. Would they do it if there were injuries and needed to...Probably. but I think they like him on the wing.
- J35Bacher

I agree, I think the only way G moves back to center is 1) in jury or 2) the third line center we go with into the year is internal and it doesn't work out and it's a necessity to move him back.

Yeah, I'm really not either. There just isn't much out there at center right now without making a trade. I just figured Letestu, at the least, is better than Lehtera and more of a sure thing than a kid like Vecchione. On a one year deal, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I'd hope that Laughton could beat him out for the 3C spot (though I really think Laughton's skill set would be better on the wing) and if that's the case, I like Letestu better at 4C than Lehtera, Vecchs or Weal.
- BiggE

Flyers have enough NHL players...up to the coach to make it work...or not lol

As people have pointed out before, Giroux just had a career year at LW. I highly doubt they want to move him back to center unless one of Couturier or Patrick gets injured (God forbid!)
- BiggE

Maybe the best plan is that Frost comes in and is remarkable and takes a job.

Giroux- Couturier - Konecny
JVR - Patrick - Voracek
Laughton/Lindblom - Frost - Simmonds
Laughton - Lehtara/Vecchione - NAK/Raffl

Weise waived to Lehigh.

Thanks for providing the transcript. It was a good read.

It was funny that someone asked about De Haas being the #7 when he's not even on an NHL contract. I think Hextall will sign one of these guys as insurance since Morin is out till 2019. The longer they go without contracts, they cheaper they should be.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../2019/toi/all/defense/ufa
- Feanor

Meh would prefer a right hander. Bieksa?

Yeah, I'm really not either. There just isn't much out there at center right now without making a trade. I just figured Letestu, at the least, is better than Lehtera and more of a sure thing than a kid like Vecchione. On a one year deal, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I'd hope that Laughton could beat him out for the 3C spot (though I really think Laughton's skill set would be better on the wing) and if that's the case, I like Letestu better at 4C than Lehtera, Vecchs or Weal.
- BiggE

Hexy literal quote is he was done with free agent forwards and the only way one would come is through a trade or internally.

Vorobyev was pretty good in training camp last season. He played professionally for 3 years. I m hoping he makes it. I think they like Laughton at LW. Use his speed to fore check and he has a pretty good wrist shot picking corners.

LW depth chart:

G
JVR
Lindblom
Laughton