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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:34 PM ET
And that’s fair value 1st and Tomas = ROR sorry to burst your bubble

It is what it is .. I don’t care anymore

- gerbe75pts



1st and Middlestadt for ROR

Do you do it?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
It has Dahlin on it so yes it is
- mattmoulson



No Lehner either

More depth in the bottom 6

Mittelstadt

Sheary

Much better
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:37 PM ET
1st and Middlestadt for ROR

Do you do it?

- ImThatGuy


Yes when I have 2 elite wingers and no centers and missed on JT and best center is bozak and Braden

But I would call the gm and add more Crap so he wouldn’t take my best prospect
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
Pretty even trade. Sometimes there are no winners or losers, just fixes for both teams. That being said, the full benefit of this trade from the Sabres standpoint won’t be felt for a few years.

One more thing - I do find it hard to believe be we couldn’t leverage the Isles desperation post Tavares exodus. If I were the GM I would have tried to exploit that. But who knows behind closed doors what really happened. Based on Botts conversations though it seems like he was pretty set on making a deal w the Blues, which I think leads me to believe he wasn’t working that side of things as much as he should.

Again just my two cents and am satisfied enough w the trade.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yes when I have 2 elite wingers and no centers and missed on JT and best center is bozak and Braden

But I would call the gm and add more Crap so he wouldn’t take my best prospect

- gerbe75pts


So Buffalo Should offer a 1st and Middlestadt for ROR right now?
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:40 PM ET
The fact that Botterill was able to keep Lygma is a win in itself.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yes when I have 2 elite wingers and no centers and missed on JT and best center is bozak and Braden

But I would call the gm and add more Crap so he wouldn’t take my best prospect

- gerbe75pts


Hold up, I missed this.

SO you would try not to trade Casey, and add in say a 2nd round pick, a verteran Center who can play 2/3 line minutes and a 1st round pick from two years ago who is nearly NHL ready.
bluenote31
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis
Joined: 09.25.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yes when I have 2 elite wingers and no centers and missed on JT and best center is bozak and Braden

But I would call the gm and add more Crap so he wouldn’t take my best prospect

- gerbe75pts



I agree that in a sense armstrong was in a tough place. He had to address the center position beyond the signing of Bozak for the team to have any chance of making a run this year
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
So Buffalo Should offer a 1st and Middlestadt for ROR right now?
- ImThatGuy


Your logic Is not helping the situation

When I can guarantee you botts said I want this prospect And blues gm said I can add these 2 vets and a 1st and you can have this Prospect that was in the NHL

You can say Casey and this bullpoop but our gm couldn’t get the second or third prospect and those aren’t Casey level

So thanks
bluenote31
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis
Joined: 09.25.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:42 PM ET
So Buffalo Should offer a 1st and Middlestadt for ROR right now?
- ImThatGuy



that makes no sense because the teams are in completely different places and have different needs
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:43 PM ET
that makes no sense because the teams are in completely different places and have different needs
- bluenote31


Yes i get that. But what you need to understand is Gerbe operates in a vaccum where none of this matters.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
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Jul 2 @ 12:43 PM ET
Hold up, I missed this.

SO you would try not to trade Casey, and add in say a 2nd round pick, a verteran Center who can play 2/3 line minutes and a 1st round pick from two years ago who is nearly NHL ready.

- ImThatGuy


No I would just keep adding garbage and sweetening the deal so he stop asking about my top prospects

Which the blues did

Next
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:44 PM ET
I see the guy that trolls other blogs is in here finally trolling ours...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:45 PM ET
that makes no sense because the teams are in completely different places and have different needs
- bluenote31


He’s not getting it if my team was the blues and needed a center for my elite winger I’m going to trade my prospect for him


So we win a cup Just like the LA Kings did
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:45 PM ET
Your logic Is not helping the situation

When I can guarantee you botts said I want this prospect And blues gm said I can add these 2 vets and a 1st and you can have this Prospect that was in the NHL

You can say Casey and this bullpoop but our gm couldn’t get the second or third prospect and those aren’t Casey level

So thanks

- gerbe75pts


You think Botterill should have gotten Thomas/Kyrou and a 1st for ROR.

Which is the equivalent to Middlestadt and a first.

I wouldn't do Nylander and a 1st for ROR. let alone Nylandner, 1st, 2nd and a solid 2/3 center.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
No I would just keep adding garbage and sweetening the deal so he stop asking about my top prospects

Which the blues did

Next

- gerbe75pts

What is really scary is Tage was the Blues' top prospect in Bott's mind. CHL sanctions. Yikes.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
This trade is a win for the Blues now.

It should be a win for the Sabres now and further more down the road.

This team has finished last 3 times in the last 5 years, big changes need to happen.

More should be coming down the road.

Bogo, Moulson, Okposo, ROR, Lehner, and Kane were all from the previous GM.

4 out of 6 are gone
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
What is really scary is Tage was the Blues' top prospect in Bott's mind. CHL sanctions. Yikes.
- Hatboro_Swords


Let me guess.

Murray would have gotten

Thomas, Kyrou, and three firsts.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
You think Botterill should have gotten Thomas/Kyrou and a 1st for ROR.

Which is the equivalent to Middlestadt and a first.

I wouldn't do Nylander and a 1st for ROR. let alone Nylandner, 1st, 2nd and a solid 2/3 center.

- ImThatGuy


I’m done lol I said Kyrou and then you continue to add more players

Lol
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
He's gotta tread that line carefully. Too many losses at the KBC this year, and people will be chanting for his head like we did with Darcy
- jcragcrumple


As long as the team plays better on Kid’s Days, everything should be fine. Taco tables will remain upright.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Let me guess.

Murray would have gotten

Thomas, Kyrou, and three firsts.

- ImThatGuy

No idea, but Botts is in the minority of thinking Tage was their best. Armstrong probably volunteered to pay the 7.5 before Botts read a prospect report.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
Let me guess.

Murray would have gotten

Thomas, Kyrou, and three firsts.

- ImThatGuy



Four.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
No idea, but Botts is in the minority of thinking Tage was their best. Armstrong probably volunteered to pay the 7.5 before Botts read a prospect report.
- Hatboro_Swords


In what world did anyone even come close to remotely saying this?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
Four.
- buffalofan19

and then went to Armstongs hous and slapped his pee pee
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:50 PM ET
In what world did anyone even come close to remotely saying this?
- ImThatGuy

Armstrong said it.
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