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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:20 AM ET
So ROR has a "spark" now he says.
- SABRES 89



Seeing 7.5 million dollars suddenly be deposited in your bank account would give me a "spark," too.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:21 AM ET
I think you are right that these are the two most likely to be moved. But I don't think JB moving both would be a good idea. If he does that it forces Guhle into a 2nd line pairing instead of continuing to let him find his game by starting as the 3rd pairing.

If I had to keep 1 its Jake

- feetontheair22


I wouldn't be mad if we traded both I think Guhle needs to be in the starting roll and Pilut I think that dude is gem they found he's really good I know it's just Prospect camp but he's been playing against men to

And you have will Borgen coming up next
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:22 AM ET
I think you're misinterpreting this. The price from the Sabres would have went up, and the Blues weren't willing to pay that higher price, so the Blues paid the bonus. It was a negotiating tactic. That bonus was basically another asset in the deal. If the Sabres paid it, then they would want maybe 2 prospects instead of 1, and the blues weren't willing to do it. It's a ticking clock negotiatiation
- jcragcrumple


No one was willing to pay the price after midnight and we’d have been stuck with him. St Louis was the only one willing to pony up assets and pay the bonus.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
No you (frank)ing moron it grows on small shrubs
- TheSabresTaco


I think you're incorrect I usually go outside get a ladder pick a couple hundred off the top
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
Seeing 7.5 million dollars suddenly be deposited in your bank account would give me a "spark," too.
- sskkoo1




His new album is going to be fire
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
Spicy taco today
- washedup20


gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:24 AM ET
They didn’t wanna pay him the bonus. If they paid the bonus, he’d have been here to start the season.

They wanted him gone before midnight. Eventually it becomes a situation where you have to stop spending good money chasing after bad. ROR and his bonuses were bad money and now they’re someone else’s problem.

- dadeadhead


I really don't believe that he would have been moved to a different team probably two weeks later
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:25 AM ET
Bogo if anyone. We seem to go through 9 per season. 82 games is a lot and the depth is always needed. Guhle and Pilut will probably start in Roch.
- mattsox


We're talking about actual pieces that could get us something not someone that could get us into Edgewood nightclub
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
I think you're incorrect I usually go outside get a ladder pick a couple hundred off the top
- gerbe75pts

not everyone can have the tall well stocked money tree that you have feeding your life while your daddy pushes back retirement another 2 years because Jr. can't figure out life.. most people get a shrub you got a sequoia..
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
No one was willing to pay the price after midnight and we’d have been stuck with him. St Louis was the only one willing to pony up assets and pay the bonus.
- dadeadhead


Yeah, the way homie framed what he said made it sound like the sabres would have gotten more if they paid the bonus. From what I've heard, the deal they got was the best the offer was going to get. The Blues were not going to give more to have the Sabres pay the bonus. If the Blues would have been willing to give more to have the sabres pay, I am pretty certain Pegula would have written the check.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
“It’s disappointing to see I wasn’t the guy, a piece that could help,” O’Reilly said

Just another bumhole who thinks he deserves more than he's given.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:27 AM ET
The only reason why they didn't pay the bonus because the blue said they wouldn't do the deal so the pennies really don't matter to him
- gerbe75pts


Hodgson
Moulson
Ehrhoff
Leino
Bylsyma
Marrone
Murray
Whaley
Ryan


Eventually those pennies turn into hundreds of dollars. Eventually you have to stop making bad decisions or you go broke. Eventually you have to stop paying for people to play/coach for other teams.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:27 AM ET
Seeing 7.5 million dollars suddenly be deposited in your bank account would give me a "spark," too.
- sskkoo1


I love basically in his quote he said he was young and he was just learning

And this guy female doged about not being captain in Colorado what a phony
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:27 AM ET
No one was willing to pay the price after midnight and we’d have been stuck with him. St Louis was the only one willing to pony up assets and pay the bonus.
- dadeadhead

makes sense.. if the locker room issues are true i think it was a decent return it just keeps pushing back the rebuild.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:28 AM ET
Hodgson
Moulson
Ehrhoff
Leino
Bylsyma
Marrone
Murray
Whaley
Ryan


Eventually those pennies turn into hundreds of dollars. Eventually you have to stop making bad decisions or you go broke. Eventually you have to stop paying for people to play/coach for other teams.

- ImThatGuy


He has the bills now to make more money imaginable
how much do you guys think you made last year with the bills making the playoffs and everything they did I bet you a boat load
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:29 AM ET
I really don't believe that he would have been moved to a different team probably two weeks later
- gerbe75pts



Not for what Botts would’ve wanted.

It’d be the Kane situation all over again where he waited to long.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:30 AM ET
He has the bills now to make more money imaginable
how much do you guys think you made last year with the bills making the playoffs and everything they did I bet you a boat load

- gerbe75pts

I managed to make no more than normal with the Bills making the playoffs..
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:31 AM ET
He has the bills now to make more money imaginable
how much do you guys think you made last year with the bills making the playoffs and everything they did I bet you a boat load

- gerbe75pts


Is this the argument you're trying to instill here.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
makes sense.. if the locker room issues are true i think it was a decent return it just keeps pushing back the rebuild.
- IndianaSabresFan


The Blues gave up less to get Wayne Gretzky in 96.
Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:33 AM ET
Not sure if anyone said this because back-reading 40 pages is a pain in the A$$.

I think a key reason why Botts wanted Berglund is not only because he fills a need as most have said but he is also from Sweden. With Dahlin and all the other Sweds we brought in who will play in Buffalo at some point can all be helped by him. He can help them to adapt to being and playing in the States and ease their transition from how it was in Sweden to how it is here. I think GMJB wanted Burglund more for these reasons then how he helps us on the ice. Again, it is also good to have a fellow countrymen on the ice with you to help you in games as well. I guess we will see, over time, if he can have a positive affect on guys like Dahlin, Olofsson, Pilut, & Asplund. That's just my take on the subject.

Again, sorry if this has been brought up already I just wanted to add it in case no one else has.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:34 AM ET
not everyone can have the tall well stocked money tree that you have feeding your life while your daddy pushes back retirement another 2 years because Jr. can't figure out life.. most people get a shrub you got a sequoia..
- IndianaSabresFan


Yeah but I'll get a unicorn

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:36 AM ET
He has the bills now to make more money imaginable
how much do you guys think you made last year with the bills making the playoffs and everything they did I bet you a boat load

- gerbe75pts


You completely missed the point, but I am not going to try an explain it for 6 hours again.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:37 AM ET
Not for what Botts would’ve wanted.

It’d be the Kane situation all over again where he waited to long.

- dadeadhead


It's way different Kane was a UFA he had a clock ticking by his ear

He got taken down by a general manager that has been in the league way longer than him

It showed
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:37 AM ET
are we good yet
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:38 AM ET
You completely missed the point, but I am not going to try an explain it for 6 hours again.
- ImThatGuy


He paid Rex Ryan free money to leave the bills I don't think he cares to be honest

I know you listed all those players


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