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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
Hackett -> Nothing
Larsson -> ?
Zadorov - >Part of ROR -> 5 pieces
Karabacek -> Nothing

So the Pominville deal, ultimately, got us a bunch of players to balance out the roster for the short and long term. But I know this is a problem for you.

- TheSabresTaco

gorges
karabacek
glotov (mitchell trade to habs)
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
19 you are better than this.
he applies this logic to the later rounds when development over multiple years is required.

this non CHL isn't an issue.
Should JBotts have gone off the board and not selected on of Dhalin, Svenchikov, Zadina...blah blah blah.

c'mon man.

- IonSabres

Not to mention finding a hidden gem will be from Europe. CHL is scouted to death.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
I see Nelson came back from fighting crime in the Congo to pull this trade off. Where's he at this week?
- TheSabresTaco



Everywhere

https://youtu.be/rNKRxsNyOho
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
We can finally slap the C on Eichel...


Anyone here if Eichel will switch his number to 9?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
RAPED.
- TheSabresTaco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdSWaIvyQ3o
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
Sorry, please tell me when the Laughs hired a GM who (frank)ed-up the entire lineup, save the easy draft pick of Eichel?
You need to take into account the digging out that JBotts is doing now.

JBotts reminds me of the BIlls - making smart, prudent moves to align the organization while still trying to win some games along the way --well except for the stealth tank last year, lol.

- IonSabres

sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
Isn't it that time of year, when sportswriters come out with farm system rankings post draft?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
I would love to see the statistics on guys the past 10 years, 5th-7th round pick success rates for CHL vs non-CHL players.
- TheSabresTaco

Why do you get to throw out rounds 1 through 4? Botts never drafted a player from the CHL.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sal Capaccio making decent points on GR right now. He may not be a hockey guy, but he's making a lot of points that you can directly relate to the Bills.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
Why do you get to throw out rounds 1 through 4? Botts never drafted a player from the CHL.
- Hatboro_Swords


The argument I'm trying to make is about developmental players. Longshots. 5-7. You can argue round 4 fits there too.

He's only participated in 2 drafts. And CM looks like one of the best players from 2017 so far. (Still early)

Like I said. I think it's still a coincidence, but I'm of the opinion that it's better use of assets if you can develop them for a longer period of time. It's apparent the Europeans (Swedes) are playing the style the Sabres and the NHL are really starting to embrace. I'm certain they're targeting SHL players on purpose.
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Jul 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
All the nhl fans
https://hfboards.mandator...e-thompson.2511989/page-5

All the blues fans
https://hfboards.mandator...991/page-3#post-147691837


But I guess half the Fanbase in the nhl doesn’t understand

- gerbe75pts


I also read up on some objective STL fans opinions on the trade, and they think it's a fair trade. A lot of them really like Thompson, saying he has great hands and a great shot, isn't slow, doesn't back down from anyone, showed flashes of real talent last year, but just couldn't put it all together just yet; and if he pans out as projected, the Blues will miss him.

He's a solid prospect. When he fills out and the NHL game clicks for him, watch out.
Botts targeted Thompson for a reason.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
The argument I'm trying to make is about developmental players. Longshots. 5-7. You can argue round 4 fits there too.
- TheSabresTaco

Got it.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
95% of them don't. they play NHL 18 and make fantasy trades and don't really understand reality.

ROR was a problem here, what don't you understand? And you continue to fail to answer the question.

Would you trade
Middlestadt
Risto
1st
2nd
Bogosian

for

ROR

That is what you are asking the Blues to do.

- ImThatGuy

Dude you continue putting that Proposal Up how about you add the 3rd best prospect or second no you keep adding the first

When it be ROR , Jake for Thomas , 1st

That’s how it should be
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:42 AM ET
Dude you continue putting that Proposal Up how about you add the 3rd best prospect or second no you keep adding the first

When it be ROR , Jake for Thomas , 1st

That’s how it should be

- gerbe75pts



You would be a good maple leafs fan
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
Nelson was the one to get Trump and ding-dong in N Korea together for the break-through meeting.
Busy man.

- IonSabres


That never made it into the news. It's all fake news, Nelson is just the behind-the-scenes guy pulling the world together
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
All the nhl fans
https://hfboards.mandator...e-thompson.2511989/page-5


All the blues fans
https://hfboards.mandator...991/page-3#post-147691837


But I guess half the Fanbase in the nhl doesn’t understand

- gerbe75pts


keyword.
People like you me and everybody else that has very little insight into the GM ranks.

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
I also read up on some objective STL fans opinions on the trade, and they think it's a fair trade. A lot of them really like Thompson, saying he has great hands and a great shot, isn't slow, doesn't back down from anyone, showed flashes of real talent last year, but just couldn't put it all together just yet; and if he pans out as projected, the Blues will miss him.

He's a solid prospect. When he fills out and the NHL game clicks for him, watch out.
Botts targeted Thompson for a reason.

- BareMetal


No the blues said take him or leave

And he caved ..

There is no way he valued Thompson over Kyrou or Kostin

There’s no way
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
The NHL 18 line is great. And it's (frank)ing true. Facebook is even worse, and many of them are supposedly "knowledgeable" Sabres fans.

Why didn't we sign Tavares? Why didn't we trade Girgensons and a 3rd for Couture?

Here's my favorite:

That Blues' 1st rounder won't be high, it'll be late teens - mid twenties, probably not a guy that'll make any impact.

(same poster, last year and still whining this year): we should have never traded the 21st pick for Lehner.

- Powerslave


That's the Special Needs class. "What's so great about Daheln? He only scored 7 goals???? Svechnakiv scored like 40??????" DRAFT SVECHNAKIV!!"
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
You would be a good maple leafs fan
- washedup20


Mine as will be we won’t win a cup for another 30 years
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
Dude you continue putting that Proposal Up how about you add the 3rd best prospect or second no you keep adding the first

When it be ROR , Jake for Thomas , 1st

That’s how it should be

- gerbe75pts

Youre missing the point, you want their best prospect, would you have gave up our best prospect + for a ROR type player.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
I'm still under the impression it's a coincidence, but it's going to be harder and harder to defend that notion.
- TheSabresTaco


I 100% agree with the logic.

You get 4 full years of developemnt instead of just 2.

Late round guys rarely come from the CHL, they mostly come from Europe.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
You would be a good prison female dog
- washedup20


ftfy
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:46 AM ET
Mine as will be we won’t win a cup for another 30 years
- gerbe75pts


Go join your brother and be terrible together.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:47 AM ET
Youre missing the point, you want their best prospect, would you have gave up our best prospect + for a ROR type player.
- Mentalorgasm5


No we had the power to move on we didn’t he caved

If we had to add Jake for Kostin so be it
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:47 AM ET
Or it could be the best available player at the time they thought was a player that was not in the CHL.

Maybe they should have thought about Hockeybuzz posters and passed on Mittelstadt and Dahlin and drafted Tippet and Barrett Hayton.

2 Canadian CHL player taken in the top 10 this year

- sabresfan69


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