Let’s look at if the Sabres did the deal

Nylander
1st
2nd
Gus
Berglund = Pominville , 3rd


Great trade
- gerbe75pts

You're the one who talks up Nylander all day long. You should be ecstatic about that deal.

Berglund scores more than ROR 5 on 5.

Thoughts?
- ImThatGuy

Berglund is 30 and already slow as dirt good luck helping us when we’re good.. this dude will be hated by everyone by year 2

Blues hate this guy to death

You're the one who talks up Nylander all day long. You should be ecstatic about that deal.
- sskkoo1

We drafted nylander there is a Difference

I can’t wait to see the Ristolainen deal maybe will get Kassian and Drake Caggiula and Ryan Strome

Cool

Berglund is 30 and already slow as dirt good luck helping us when we’re good.. this dude will be hated by everyone by year 2

Blues hate this guy to death
- gerbe75pts

O'reilly is Pominville when the Sabres trade him to Minnesota.

Pommers was a consistent 60 pt player for us, then we traded him. He gave Minnesota one 60 pt season, then declined by 10 pts per year until he became what he is now. That's what is going to happen with O'reilly. Three years from now, he'll be putting up less than 40 pts and still be being 7.5 million. We dodged a bullet here.

It was a horrible trade tell me if your a blues fan right now do you miss any of that ? No you would be laughing calling your GM a God

Exactly
- gerbe75pts

OK, so you think the Blues won the trade today, ok. But their goaltending is pretty bad, don't see them going past first round with that anyway. So be happy to lose in the first round! We want more than that!

This trade is (obviously) about the future. While getting NHL talent to help fill out roster the next few years to allow guys to properly develop. I dont think GMJB is done, so as people have told you, this is not the team in the fall.

Our prospect pool looks really good right now, really happy with that. It is a strength again, which is really important on an up and coming team like this.

We drafted nylander there is a Difference
- gerbe75pts

That's bullpoop and you know it.

Let’s look at if the Sabres did the deal

Nylander
1st
2nd
Gus
Berglund = Pominville , 3rd


Great trade
- gerbe75pts

So you're ok with because this is essentially what you wanted from St. Lous:

Middlestat
Ristolainen
1st round pick
2nd round pick

for

Jeff Skinner

Sheary-Eichel-Okposo
Erod-Mitts-Reinhart
Wilson-Berglund-thompson
Girgs-sobotka-Pommer
Larsson-oregan-baptiste
Bailey

Dahlin-Risto
Scandella-bogo
Guhle-Nelson
Mccabe
Hunwick
Beaulieu


He's gotta clean this up. Still a boatload of crap/redundant players

O'reilly is Pominville when the Sabres trade him to Minnesota.

Pommers was a consistent 60 pt player for us, then we traded him. He gave Minnesota one 60 pt season, then declined by 10 pts per year until he became what he is now. That's what is going to happen with O'reilly. Three years from now, he'll be putting up less than 40 pts and still be being 7.5 million. We dodged a bullet here.
- sskkoo1

And we ended up with nothing in the Pominville deal correct ?

That’s how I feel now

Sheary-Eichel-Okposo
Erod-Mitts-Reinhart
Wilson-Berglund-thompson
Girgs-sobotka-Pommer
Larsson-oregan-baptiste
Bailey

Dahlin-Risto
Scandella-bogo
Guhle-Nelson
Mccabe
Hunwick
Beaulieu


He's gotta clean this up. Still a boatload of crap/redundant players
- jcragcrumple

Larsson and Girgs can both be traded for whatever draft picks we can get. Beaulieu can be waved and sent to Rochester.

Sheary-Eichel-Okposo
Erod-Mitts-Reinhart
Wilson-Berglund-thompson
Girgs-sobotka-Pommer
Larsson-oregan-baptiste
Bailey

Dahlin-Risto
Scandella-bogo
Guhle-Nelson
Mccabe
Hunwick
Beaulieu


He's gotta clean this up. Still a boatload of crap/redundant players
- jcragcrumple

He’s just going to move people up from the third and fourth morning to the second line everything is going to be peachy

O'reilly is Pominville when the Sabres trade him to Minnesota.

Pommers was a consistent 60 pt player for us, then we traded him. He gave Minnesota one 60 pt season, then declined by 10 pts per year until he became what he is now. That's what is going to happen with O'reilly. Three years from now, he'll be putting up less than 40 pts and still be being 7.5 million. We dodged a bullet here.
- sskkoo1

Thank you.... ROR would have been our 3rd line centre here by 2020-2021 at the latest. I'd rather get the return we got now then have to buy him out when he declines exponentially. He was a good player for us the past few years, but those years are done. We are focused on this year and in the future. We did good.

And we ended up with nothing in the Pominville deal correct ?

That’s how I feel now
- gerbe75pts

No, we got a 1st, 2nd, and two prospects. They got two decent seasons out of Pommer before he turned into a bag of chit. We won that deal.

Larsson and Girgs can both be traded for whatever draft picks we can get. Beaulieu can be waved and sent to Rochester.
- sskkoo1

Doesn't really help us. I guess I'm just coming to terms with the fact that this roster still looks like poop

just because they are 3rd liners on a decent team, doesn't mean they are 3rd liners here


and of course if moved up a line or extra pp time, their numbers are better here then st louis

And we ended up with nothing in the Pominville deal correct ?

That’s how I feel now
- gerbe75pts

SO would you be fine with

Middlestadt
1st
2nd
Risto
Bogosian

for

60 point 2 way center.

Because that is what you were asking the Blues to do for ROR.

Thank you.... ROR would have been our 3rd line centre here by 2020-2021 at the latest. I'd rather get the return we got now then have to buy him out when he declines exponentially. He was a good player for us the past few years, but those years are done. We are focused on this year and in the future. We did good.
- Pegullaville

Agree with you both. He would have been 3rd line center and losing PP time. So there goes the points. So he would be expected to be a shut down 3rd line center making $7.5m. Then if we wanted to trade we would be giving up the 2nd round pick (or 1st) to take him.

Potentially 3 first round picks next year could help keep that prospect pool very fresh and deep. As most have said here for years, the prospect pool is about getting ~15-20 guys in there and hope 2-3 hit big. Anything after pick 10 can be treated this way. Sure there are solid guys at 10-20 in draft, but there are a lot of misses too.

What did I miss?

Eh, they have to hit on the late first, and hope Berglund's production continues into his mid 30s. Let's be honest, St. Louis got the best player in the trade without giving up any players of value - Thomas, Kyrou, Parayko, Fabbri, Schwartz. We got a couple spare part forwards (I do like Berglund), a b prospect and picks. Looks pretty good for St. Louis at this point.
- jcragcrumple

You people are forgetting we have our own nice crop of young players/prospects.
The sky isn't falling, as some might like to believe.

SO would you be fine with

Middlestadt
1st
2nd
Risto
Bogosian

for

60 point 2 way center.

Because that is what you were asking the Blues to do for ROR.
- ImThatGuy

I won't speak for Gerbe, but my perfect trade would have been

Berglund
2nd
Fabbri
Thomas

We didn't get any high-end talent, and we didn't get faster

I think the piece you are leaving out of there is that we took back a lot of celery. Also, I would have taken Zads and Compher over Thompson and pick. I don't love the trade but I get it.
- Slump Buster

That pick has the chance to be Brock Boeser or David Pastrnak. I have faith in Botts drafting ability. Too early to tell mostly, but I like what he's done so far.

Nonsense. O'Reilly has played huge, difficult minutes for this team largely surrounded by garbage. The guy led the league in icetime for forwards two seasons ago. Even strength goals is the stupidest ****ing argument I've ever heard. Berglund is nowhere near the player O'Reilly is. Don't be one of those fans that starts poo pooing on a player immediately after he's traded. It's a very poor look.

lol

How much leverage did we use?

Doesn't really help us. I guess I'm just coming to terms with the fact that this roster still looks like poop
- jcragcrumple

I don't feel it has to look like poop. We just need to move out some bums and finally let the youth play.

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Olofsson-Mitts-Okposo
Erod-Berglund-Bap
Wilson-Sabotka-Pommers

Nice mix of vets and youth, we'll be fine.