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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
Anyone see the video on G calling JVR a pigeon for a 2013 game? Why a pigeon?
- WhirlingDervish


A pigeon, as I understand it, is a player who scores meaningless goals.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:14 AM ET
With JVR in, I don’t want Patrick net front again on the PP.

Don’t want our future 1C taking that kind of abuse.

- flyer_nutter

Patrick can be JvR's Giroux PP2
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:14 AM ET
I like the JVR deal. I like the term. The $$$ is a bit much, but I get it.

This is the kind of player the Flyers have lacked. He's a sniper.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:15 AM ET
They'll likely waive Leier before Lehtera, it was clear that Hak has no trust in him by the way he was used as the season went on last year. I'm also hoping a kid like Aube-Kubel can beat out Weise and they can waive that useless piece of crap as well. Other than that, this could be how they roll assuming they add a 3C from outside the organization, which is far from a lock.
- BiggE


Maybe. They waived Read before Leier last year.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:16 AM ET
So we got rid of a so so player and got our former 2nd overall pick back. Understood
Now put schenn's Johnsonville bratwurst back in your mouth and let the big boys discuss real hockey players.
Thanks again for all your schenn love 👬

- Myfreedomisback


These are very big words by you. What do you mean by Johnsonville bratwurst exactly and why would it be in my mouth. Walk me through this for clarification.
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:17 AM ET
This is an asinine post on many levels. If Schenn is a so-so player, so is JVR.
- MJL

Cool story bro
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:17 AM ET
Maybe. They waived Read before Leier last year.
- Feanor


Thinking that had more to do with dollars than anything else and the fact that Read's skating was really looking labored in camp. All I know is that when we got to the playoffs. Leier was behind Lehtera, Weise and Read on the depth chart at that point.
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:19 AM ET
These are very big words by you. What do you mean by Johnsonville bratwurst exactly and why would it be in my mouth. Walk me through this for clarification.
- SuperSchennBros

You know....those 5 packs of juicy sausages they sell at the store?
We know you love schenn I just don't see anyone talk about it except you anymore. I'd rather have frost and O'Brien than schenn all day. Big win for hexy in that trade
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:20 AM ET
Frost and Farabee were the Blues’ picks.

Thinking that had more to do with dollars than anything else and the fact that Read's skating was really looking labored in camp. All I know is that when we got to the playoffs. Leier was behind Lehtera, Weise and Read on the depth chart at that point.
- BiggE


Hagg and Sanheim were below Manning on the playoff depth chart.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:20 AM ET
You know....those 5 packs of juicy sausages they sell at the store?
We k ow you love schenn I just don't see anyo me talk about it except you anymore. I'd rather have frost and O'Brien than schenn all day. Big win for hexy in that trade

- Myfreedomisback


Frost and Farabee, the #14 pick was from St. Louis.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:20 AM ET
Thinking that had more to do with dollars than anything else and the fact that Read's skating was really looking labored in camp. All I know is that when we got to the playoffs. Leier was behind Lehtera, Weise and Read on the depth chart at that point.
- BiggE


Hextall has done that multiple times. Waived better players to the AHL due to a pre-determined decision to give a younger player a chance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
You know....those 5 packs of juicy sausages they sell at the store?
We know you love schenn I just don't see anyone talk about it except you anymore. I'd rather have frost and O'Brien than schenn all day. Big win for hexy in that trade

- Myfreedomisback


Wrong pick.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
Schenn is history, don't even know why people still bring it up.

On the other topic you mentioned, JVR is a much better skater than Lehtera and just as good a skater as Weise with the difference being that JVR actually generates offense and will at least use his size to his advantage in the O zone. Weise, OTOH, is 6'2 210 and plays like he's 5'8 165.

- BiggE

I actually felt like Weise made a physical impact when he dressed in the playoffs. One we were missing.

The talk now focuses on Simmonds being traded. I feel like we should have kept the cheaper, younger Schenn (to JvR) and traded the older Simmonds, likely to cost more Simmonds for the same Blues return.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hagg and Sanheim were below Manning on the playoff depth chart.
- Feanor


Hak's gonna Hak. Last time I checked though, he's still the head coach and Leier was getting a lot less game action from December on than either of the 2 young dmen.

I think Leier's time as a Flyer is over.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Frost and Farabee were the Blues’ picks.



Hagg and Sanheim were below Manning on the playoff depth chart.

- Feanor


With VDV and Manning out, I am slightly intrigued who will get the final rose from Hakstol this season.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Yikes 7 million 3rd line player
- 2Real

Just 5 mill more than Weise the beer league press box camper🤩
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Wrong pick.
- MJL

Really? That's great too! I did name the wrong guy! Lol.
Already started celebrating the day!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Hextall has done that multiple times. Waived better players to the AHL due to a pre-determined decision to give a younger player a chance.
- MJL


Absolutely. My point was that as the season wore on, Leier fell further and further down the depth chart. At this point, I don't think he's in their future plans as anything more than an AHL depth call up.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
You know....those 5 packs of juicy sausages they sell at the store?
We know you love schenn I just don't see anyone talk about it except you anymore. I'd rather have frost and O'Brien than schenn all day. Big win for hexy in that trade

- Myfreedomisback

Why would these sausages be Schenn's?

We used the Blues draft pick to get Joel Farabee, "Big Boy".

Why don't you tell me a little bit about Jay O'Brian though.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:24 AM ET
I actually felt like Weise made a physical impact when he dressed in the playoffs. One we were missing.

The talk now focuses on Simmonds being traded. I feel like we should have kept the cheaper, younger Schenn (to JvR) and traded the older Simmonds, likely to cost more Simmonds for the same Blues return.

- SuperSchennBros


I urge you to raise your standards. Trade Simmonds and Schenn. Sign JVR.

I do agree about a lack of physicality overall, the team does play quite soft. Still, JVR for 5 years is a good add. No pieces given up to bring him in.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:24 AM ET
I actually felt like Weise made a physical impact when he dressed in the playoffs. One we were missing.

The talk now focuses on Simmonds being traded. I feel like we should have kept the cheaper, younger Schenn (to JvR) and traded the older Simmonds, likely to cost more Simmonds for the same Blues return.

- SuperSchennBros


Yeah, he looked ok for a few shifts in one game, but hasn't that been his track record since they signed him? He'll have one decent game and then be an utter non-factor for the next dozen.

If Dale Weise never plays another game for the Flyers again, I very much doubt anyone will miss him.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:25 AM ET
With VDV and Manning out, I am slightly intrigued who will get the final rose from Hakstol this season.
- flyer_nutter

Darn is he and Lappy still behind the bench🤮🤮🤮
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:25 AM ET
Maybe JVR no longer wanted to be in Toronto.
- Pelle31Forever

They would have known that then trade his rights and pick up something for him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Absolutely. My point was that as the season wore on, Leier fell further and further down the depth chart. At this point, I don't think he's in their future plans as anything more than an AHL depth call up.
- BiggE


I agree with you. I've never been impressed much with Leier. Skates well but not much else.
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Why would these sausages be Schenn?

We used the Blues draft pick to get Joel Farabee, "Big Boy".

Why don't you tell me a little bit about Jay O'Brian though.

- SuperSchennBros

Can you tell me about O'Brien? All I know is the report on him that we all read, tiger.
I admire your love for schenn though.
I have a man crush on Patrick!
Will I see you at the sausage pride rally?
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