Just watch. Hexy is going to shock us all and trade for Karlsson now.
- hereticpride

The goaltending needs to be addressed. Otherworldly this move could be for naught this year.

Dont see how you go into the season with the same can of worms that you ended with.

Just watch. Hexy is going to shock us all and trade for Karlsson now.
- hereticpride

That would push Gudass out of the lineup👍 Maybe🤫

I like Jake and don't see any reason to move him for ROR.

Swapping simmer++ for panarin.... I'd listen.
- moylander

I have no desire to trade Jake. Love him to death. Simmonds I think we gotta move

The goaltending needs to be addressed. Otherworldly this move could be for naught this year.

Dont see how you go into the season with the same can of worms that you ended with.
- rinaldo

I expect Elliott as the starter with less usage

The goaltending needs to be addressed. Otherworldly this move could be for naught this year.

Dont see how you go into the season with the same can of worms that you ended with.
- rinaldo

They don't really have many options that are clear cut improvements. Plus with Hart soon to be knocking at the door I don't think Hexy wants to burn assets or cap space on another goalie right now.

I expect Elliott as the starter with less usage
- dragonoffrost

thats fine in theory. what happens when glass joe gets hurt?

Coach has already shown to ride guys until they break. add the fact that neither him or glass joe are anything special.

I expect Elliott as the starter with less usage
- dragonoffrost

40 games max but who will step in for Noworth when he is on the IR🤔

Just watch. Hexy is going to shock us all and trade for Karlsson now.
- hereticpride

*Looks around*

*Checks mood of the board*

I would at least ask the question

*Ducks*

They don't really have many options that are clear cut improvements. Plus with Hart soon to be knocking at the door I don't think Hexy wants to burn assets or cap space on another goalie right now.
- hereticpride

my take on hart is this; if he pans out great problems solved. you cant bank on it especially the way Ronald likes to develop players. He could possible be 3 years away. get a goalie and this team isnt as far away as one may think imo.

There are better options then those 2. whether or not they want to pay the price to get one is the question.

get a goalie and you worry about hart later. when he is ready you deal with whatever issue you have then.

*Looks around*

*Checks mood of the board*

I would at least ask the question

*Ducks*
- AllInForFlyers

I mean I think Hexy could make the move if he really wanted to. It's the next contract that you gotta worry about. He's easily going to get 11+ a year. That's going to require filling the bottom six with a lot of ELCs

thats fine in theory. what happens when glass joe gets hurt?

Coach has already shown to ride guys until they break. add the fact that neither him or glass joe are anything special.
- rinaldo

I'm thinking glass Joe as you called him gets moved. Lyon or Stollie backs up.

my take on hart is this; if he pans out great problems solved. you cant bank on it especially the way Ronald likes to develop players. He could possible be 3 years away. get a goalie and this team isnt as far away as one may think imo.

There are better options then those 2. whether or not they want to pay the price to get one is the question.

get a goalie and you worry about hart later. when he is ready you deal with whatever issue you have then.
- rinaldo

If it were up to me, I'd package Neuvirth with a 4th round pick and see if that can land you Craig Anderson. Anderson is no spring chicken, but he's much more durable than Neuvirth and better than Elliott.

I'd start Anderson 45-50 games and Elliott 32-37 which would keep Anderson fresh going into the playoffs.

Another option, would be to package Neuvirth, a 3rd, and a prospect like Vecchione to St. Louis and see if that can land you Jake Allen. Allen and Elliott worked well as a tandem in St. Louis and again, Allen's durability makes him an upgrade over the glass goalie.

If Allen can rediscover his "A" game, he's a solid starter who can give you 55 starts and Elliott can be a very good backup and start 27.

I mean I think Hexy could make the move if he really wanted to. It's the next contract that you gotta worry about. He's easily going to get 11+ a year. That's going to require filling the bottom six with a lot of ELCs
- hereticpride

Cap's going up at least once more -- one big jump. Lehtera comes off, Simmonds comes off, you have one of the top systems in hockey and literally just picked two more first-round forwards with upside a week ago

I'd say "(frank) it" and do it. Yeah, you gotta figure out some other stuff down the line, but that's what you get paid to do

I definitely don't want to fight about this today, absolutely not, but they could do it if they wanted to -- with the farm system they have, they could do just about anything they wanted right this minute

I'm thinking glass Joe as you called him gets moved. Lyon or Stollie backs up.
- dragonoffrost

This is possible, but pretty risky. I'd want to see Stolarz at least get through camp healthy before I'd bank on him and I'm not sure Lyon, at the NHL level, is anything more than a average back up at best. Plus knowing the way Hak uses his goalies, going with that scenario will likely lead to him overplaying Elliott and burning him out down the stretch.

I want to make something very clear before I hear more never ending Schenn comments hurled towards me.

The Flyers did miss Brayden Schenn this past season. If they didn't, the JvR signing doesn't happen. We got a good return for Schenn, not great. We still took on a bad contract, anchored to a bad player. The two players we drafted with the two first rounders we received in return look promising but we won't know how good they are until five years down the road, which is fine but that's still long down the road. Today we signed a bigger, less physical, older, more expensive Brayden Schenn.

I'm fine with all of this. I think we needed a scoring winger and we got one. Although I don't see how JvR as a skater helps the speed of this team with Lehtera and Weise on it.

I want to make something very clear before I hear more never ending Schenn comments hurled towards me.

The Flyers did miss Brayden Schenn this past season. If they didn't, the JvR signing doesn't happen. We got a good return for Schenn, not great. We still took on a bad contract, anchored to a bad player. The two players we drafted with the two first rounders we received in return look promising but we won't know how good they are until five years down the road, which is fine but that's still long down the road. Today we signed a bigger, less physical, older, more expensive Brayden Schenn.

I'm fine with all of this. I think we needed a scoring winger and we got one. Although I don't see how JvR as a skater helps the speed of this team with Lehtera and Weise on it.
- SuperSchennBros

Schenn is history, don't even know why people still bring it up.

On the other topic you mentioned, JVR is a much better skater than Lehtera and just as good a skater as Weise with the difference being that JVR actually generates offense and will at least use his size to his advantage in the O zone. Weise, OTOH, is 6'2 210 and plays like he's 5'8 165.

Anyone see the video on G calling JVR a pigeon for a 2013 game? Why a pigeon?

If it were up to me, I'd package Neuvirth with a 4th round pick and see if that can land you Craig Anderson. Anderson is no spring chicken, but he's much more durable than Neuvirth and better than Elliott.

I'd start Anderson 45-50 games and Elliott 32-37 which would keep Anderson fresh going into the playoffs.

Another option, would be to package Neuvirth, a 3rd, and a prospect like Vecchione to St. Louis and see if that can land you Jake Allen. Allen and Elliott worked well as a tandem in St. Louis and again, Allen's durability makes him an upgrade over the glass goalie.

If Allen can rediscover his "A" game, he's a solid starter who can give you 55 starts and Elliott can be a very good backup and start 27.
- BiggE

i roll the dice with allen in a heartbeat. I do not think vecchione has any value what so ever. he is irreverent in any deal to me.

i like anderson but with his age he could fall off rather quickly. if ottawa would eat half of his cap hit, def look into that. assuming you can dump glass joe in the deal even if you have to pay a little extra.

If they sign jvr who cares about where weal raffle or Leier play. Are they even bringing Leier back ?

Jvr won’t block anyone. When guys are ready they will play has been Ronald’s mo so no concern there at all.

Wonder if this signing is a sign Simmonds contract negotiations are not going well ?
- rinaldo

Leier, I imagine, is re-signed and waived to play in LV.

I want to make something very clear before I hear more never ending Schenn comments hurled towards me.

The Flyers did miss Brayden Schenn this past season. If they didn't, the JvR signing doesn't happen. We got a good return for Schenn, not great. We still took on a bad contract, anchored to a bad player. The two players we drafted with the two first rounders we received in return look promising but we won't know how good they are until five years down the road, which is fine but that's still long down the road. Today we signed a bigger, less physical, older, more expensive Brayden Schenn.

I'm fine with all of this. I think we needed a scoring winger and we got one. Although I don't see how JvR as a skater helps the speed of this team with Lehtera and Weise on it.
- SuperSchennBros

So we got rid of a so so player and got our former 2nd overall pick back. Understood
Now put schenn's Johnsonville bratwurst back in your mouth and let the big boys discuss real hockey players.
Thanks again for all your schenn love 👬

Leier, I imagine, is re-signed and waived to play in LV.
- nastyflyergirl

is there even room for him at LV? what about the vet rule?

Btw I see the flyers doing to jvr exactly what Toronto did, play him on the 3rd line. Heavy heavy ozone starts for this line. Patrick and couturier line will do all the heavy lifting. Unleash him on other teams third pairing
- Just5

Yikes 7 million 3rd line player

With JVR in, I don’t want Patrick net front again on the PP.

Don’t want our future 1C taking that kind of abuse.

So we got rid of a so so player and got our former 2nd overall pick back. Understood
Now put schenn's Johnsonville bratwurst back in your mouth and let the big boys discuss real hockey players.
Thanks again for all your schenn love 👬
- Myfreedomisback

This is an asinine post on many levels. If Schenn is a so-so player, so is JVR.