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fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Jul 2 @ 1:29 AM ET
They're gonna have to do something if he isn't with Patrick or, more specifically, Voracek -- I don't know what, exactly -- but something to bridge the gap to Frost. They can't pay JVR 7 large and not have him with a playmaker who can get 25 primary assists. I like JVR's skillset, but he does need a guy to get him the puck
- AllInForFlyers


JVR is the best finisher on the roster. You want to get him with either Giroux or Voracek.
bighandsome91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shut up, nerd., CA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jul 2 @ 1:52 AM ET
from what I can tell, he seems to be a hockey player
- BulliesPhan87


I heard he has a shooter tutor. He will be bringing it to training camp in September.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:54 AM ET
I only skimmed but was it mentioned that JvR is money in the shootout? I'm not sure about last season but two seasons ago, he had something crazy. Like ten attempts and missed once all season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:55 AM ET
JVR is the best finisher on the roster. You want to get him with either Giroux or Voracek.
- fls13

Absolute finisher.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:56 AM ET
from what I can tell, he seems to be a hockey player
- BulliesPhan87

Big, if true.

Hello
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:59 AM ET
I only skimmed but was it mentioned that JvR is money in the shootout? I'm not sure about last season but two seasons ago, he had something crazy. Like ten attempts and missed once all season.
- SuperSchennBros

Cool. Hak will probably slot him to shoot 7th then.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:27 AM ET


Seeing all these deals for bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenseman I actually appreciate hextall patience. He got his guy to a solid deal and than passed a lot. I still expect a secondary free agent on a 1 year before it's all said and done
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:30 AM ET
Hextall used free agency the way it should be used. To get a quality player to fill a vital need (true sniper/goal scorer on the wing). I'm really glad he didn't overpay for bottom six, bottom pair talent and that he didn't overpay in any trades.

I still think in the next few days that he'll probably sign a 4C PK guy and a 6/7 depth Dman, but I think he'll wait until the prices come down to do so.

If he can also find a way to move Neuvirth and bring in a more durable guy to tandem with Elliott, it will have been, IMO, a very successful offseason.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:30 AM ET
Cool. Hak will probably slot him to shoot 7th then.
- hereticpride

Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:34 AM ET
Hextall used free agency the way it should be used. To get a quality player to fill a vital need (true sniper/goal scorer on the wing). I'm really glad he didn't overpay for bottom six, bottom pair talent and that he didn't overpay in any trades.

I still think in the next few days that he'll probably sign a 4C PK guy and a 6/7 depth Dman, but I think he'll wait until the prices come down to do so.

If he can also find a way to move Neuvirth and bring in a more durable guy to tandem with Elliott, it will have been, IMO, a very successful offseason.

- BiggE



Are Lyons and stolarz still eligible to stash in the ahl or would they have to get waived ? Lyon played well enough I think he would get claimed.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 2 @ 8:36 AM ET
Seeing all these deals for bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenseman I actually appreciate hextall patience. He got his guy to a solid deal and than passed a lot. I still expect a secondary free agent on a 1 year before it's all said and done
- Tfaehner



I am feeling a trade for possibly a top 4 defender. Maybe it's Simmonds to a team that missed on scoring in FA. But just get the sense they are still going to do more.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 8:37 AM ET
Are Lyons and stolarz still eligible to stash in the ahl or would they have to get waived ? Lyon played well enough I think he would get claimed.
- Tfaehner


Both would have to pass waivers. But remember, there's no point in claiming a player unless you plan on playing him in the NHL because, once you demote him, he has to go on waivers again.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 2 @ 8:40 AM ET
Are Lyons and stolarz still eligible to stash in the ahl or would they have to get waived ? Lyon played well enough I think he would get claimed.
- Tfaehner

Most teams already have 2 goalies
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 8:40 AM ET
JVR is the best finisher on the roster. You want to get him with either Giroux or Voracek.
- fls13


Aren't he and Giroux both LWs?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:41 AM ET
Most teams already have 2 goalies
- YuenglingJagr



Didn't that happen with the guy we lost to Minnesota the one year though he played a little nhl but mostly ahl
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 2 @ 8:42 AM ET
Didn't that happen with the guy we lost to Minnesota the one year though he played a little nhl but mostly ahl
- Tfaehner

Chris Porter?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 2 @ 8:43 AM ET
Speaking of goalies...if I were Steve Mason I would try to sign with the Islanders
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 8:43 AM ET
Aren't he and Giroux both LWs?
- jmatchett383

Yeah, and G isn't moving back to center after the year he and Coots had together. I keep seeing people suggest G move back to center and I just don't get it.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:44 AM ET
Chris Porter?
- YuenglingJagr


Yes that situation how was that allowed
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 2 @ 8:44 AM ET
Yeah, and G isn't moving back to center after the year he and Coots had together. I keep seeing people suggest G move back to center and I just don't get it.
- hereticpride


I don't understand why everyone wouldn't be rooting for a top 6 like this:

G Coots TK
JVR Patrick Jake
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 8:47 AM ET
I don't understand why everyone wouldn't be rooting for a top 6 like this:

G Coots TK
JVR Patrick Jake

- Tfaehner

They think line two is too weak on defense. I'm fine with it. It's not like Jake and Patrick are Briere out there.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 2 @ 8:47 AM ET
Hextall used free agency the way it should be used. To get a quality player to fill a vital need (true sniper/goal scorer on the wing). I'm really glad he didn't overpay for bottom six, bottom pair talent and that he didn't overpay in any trades.

I still think in the next few days that he'll probably sign a 4C PK guy and a 6/7 depth Dman, but I think he'll wait until the prices come down to do so.

If he can also find a way to move Neuvirth and bring in a more durable guy to tandem with Elliott, it will have been, IMO, a very successful offseason.

- BiggE



Not a center but a PK guy i like still out there is Tommy Wingles.

De Haan is still out there. Sbisa would interest me if it was a short term deal like 2 years.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 8:47 AM ET
I don't understand why everyone wouldn't be rooting for a top 6 like this:

G Coots TK
JVR Patrick Jake

- Tfaehner



That is pretty darned sexy right there.




jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 8:48 AM ET
I don't understand why everyone wouldn't be rooting for a top 6 like this:

G Coots TK
JVR Patrick Jake

- Tfaehner


It's the 3C hole, I would think. If you slot G back to 1C, you go G-Coots-Patrick down the middle.

So I get it, I just don't agree with it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 8:49 AM ET
Not a center but a PK guy i like still out there is Tommy Wingles.

De Haan is still out there. Sbisa would interest me if it was a short term deal like 2 years.

- J35Bacher


Sbisa as a 3LW?
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