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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
My point exactly. Why they can't afford a 3C now.
- hockeyal


That's wrong. They absolutely can afford it.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
My point exactly. Why they can't afford a 3C now.
- hockeyal


Sounds like they did not want to match the term for Riley Nash
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:59 PM ET
Because they got the star level talent. Anything that goes wrong now is just bad luck or poor post-Hinkie management.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's part of my point, nothing is guaranteed. If management screws it up, don't they become basketballs equivalent of the Coyotes?
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
A number of players will be coming off the cap in future seasons. 18/19 is the upcoming season.
- MJL


Meant 19-20 as you can tell based on who I said needed to be signed. Lots of minimum contracts coming off but other than Simmer and Raffl, and one or both goalies, none of heft. After this signing, it looks like in 19-20 the Flyers will once again lack depth at forward. Great.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
You know what, you are correct. They did come out, and will continue to come out. I come here daily to read this site, because I respect most of the poster's opinions. However, when I open the comments and some of the first posts have to do with the Brayden Schen trade, and how horrible the sixers are for tanking. It gets me a little ticked off.

What do either of those things have to do with JVR? the future dev. camp that is happening right now? or the next moves that the flyers may make?

If you don't want to allow other people's opinions on this site, then so be it. If you want it to be/stay a Good Ole Boys Club, thats fine then stay in your cliques, and maybe take some of MJL advice and don't read my posts.

I feel like I have to pass some sort of test to post to the site, what is up with that?

Have a good one brother!

- ChuckinKnucks


Speaking of which, went down there today for Group B. Ratcliffe stood out because he could manhandle everyone. Frost was by the the standout. Farabee was good, but with just drills, hard to get a read on him. Actually thought Friedman looked the best after Frost.
ChuckinKnucks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
Not going to pretend I know more than the scouts. From what I read, I would take Wahlstrom over Farabee. That's not diss to Farabee because it sounds like he could be a solid NHL player. I definitely would not have traded both picks to get a higher pick. And man, if both Farabee and O'Brien are impactful NHL players it will have been a great draft for the Flyers.
- FlyerFan16


I hear you on that one. I think Farabee will be great, but doesn't it sometimes seem like we always talk about how player A is a 200ft player, with some sort of negative connotation? Maybe that is just me, but I would have loved to finally just have a sniper, and justify the player by saying he is an elite offensive player. From what the scouts say though, Farabee has great offensive upside as well.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
That's wrong. They absolutely can afford it.
- MJL



OK, Homer. You are right. We can sign all of these contracts. Don't worry about the future!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
Meant 19-20 as you can tell based on who I said needed to be signed. Lots of minimum contracts coming off but other than Simmer and Raffl, and one or both goalies, none of heft. After this signing, it looks like in 19-20 the Flyers will once again lack depth at forward. Great.
- hockeyal


Lots of minimum contracts come off with more more coming on. Not seeing the full picture. Look at the prospect base the Flyers have at forward.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
OK, Homer. You are right. We can sign all of these contracts. Don't worry about the future!
- hockeyal


I don't see how you can take from my comment that they can afford it that says don't worry about the future.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:03 PM ET
I hear you on that one. I think Farabee will be great, but doesn't it sometimes seem like we always talk about how player A is a 200ft player, with some sort of negative connotation? Maybe that is just me, but I would have loved to finally just have a sniper, and justify the player by saying he is an elite offensive player. From what the scouts say though, Farabee has great offensive upside as well.
- ChuckinKnucks


Only people who are fans of scoring, but don't understand hockey think being a 200ft player is a bad thing.
bighandsome91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shut up, nerd., CA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jul 1 @ 4:04 PM ET
You know what, you are correct. They did come out, and will continue to come out. I come here daily to read this site, because I respect most of the poster's opinions. However, when I open the comments and some of the first posts have to do with the Brayden Schen trade, and how horrible the sixers are for tanking. It gets me a little ticked off.

What do either of those things have to do with JVR? the future dev. camp that is happening right now? or the next moves that the flyers may make?

If you don't want to allow other people's opinions on this site, then so be it. If you want it to be/stay a Good Ole Boys Club, thats fine then stay in your cliques, and maybe take some of MJL advice and don't read my posts.

I feel like I have to pass some sort of test to post to the site, what is up with that?

Have a good one brother!

- ChuckinKnucks


So you're complaining about the things people are voicing their opinion about, and then you complain that you think you can't voice your own opinion?

I'm always glad to see more people on this site. Welcome!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:04 PM ET
That's part of my point, nothing is guaranteed. If management screws it up, don't they become basketballs equivalent of the Coyotes?
- FlyerFan16


What?

The Coyotes never had close to this level of talent. The Sixers have had horrible luck with injuries and their #1 forgot how to shoot and they still finished with the 5th best record in the league while being led by a group of guys in their early 20s. It would take quite a bit to screw this thing up
ChuckinKnucks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:04 PM ET
Speaking of which, went down there today for Group B. Ratcliffe stood out because he could manhandle everyone. Frost was by the the standout. Farabee was good, but with just drills, hard to get a read on him. Actually thought Friedman looked the best after Frost.
- jmatchett383


Frost looked good? I wonder if he has a real shot at making the team this year, with all the talk of not grabbing another center. It is going to be interesting when Ratcliffe and Allison get a shot at making the roster, if not the Flyers at least the phantoms.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
Filppula to the Isles. Their fans must be relieved that they were able to quickly find a capable replacement for Tavares.

🤣🤣
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
My point exactly. Why they can't afford a 3C now.
- hockeyal

They can afford one now, they can't and shouldn't go long term with one. Too many kids coming up soon. They could target a vet with 2 years or so remaining on their contract. They have plenty of options and why I said we have to see what happens between now and the start of the season.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
Isles found their Tavares replacement.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
What?

The Coyotes never had close to this level of talent. The Sixers have had horrible luck with injuries and their #1 forgot how to shoot and they still finished with the 5th best record in the league while being led by a group of guys in their early 20s. It would take quite a bit to screw this thing up

- PhillySportsGuy


Thankfully they got rid of Coangelo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
Filppula to the Isles. Their fans must be relieved that they were able to quickly find a capable replacement for Tavares.

🤣🤣

- BiggE


See, and we think we have it bad here.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
Man talk about adding salt to the wound for Isles fans


FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
What?

The Coyotes never had close to this level of talent. The Sixers have had horrible luck with injuries and their #1 forgot how to shoot and they still finished with the 5th best record in the league while being led by a group of guys in their early 20s. It would take quite a bit to screw this thing up

- PhillySportsGuy

I was referring to becoming irrelevant with my Coyotes comment. Agree that they are set up nicely for a long run at contending. Good luck to them.
ChuckinKnucks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
So you're complaining about the things people are voicing their opinion about, and then you complain that you think you can't voice your own opinion?

I'm always glad to see more people on this site. Welcome!

- bighandsome91


I think what I am complaining about is that I think certain people on this site just like to argue and be negative, just for the sake of arguing and being negative. And as a reader you get fed up, so I make a post. Not caring at all what people think.

When said people seem to have no ground to stand on in regards to my comment, they then say where did you come from? Characters coming out of the wood work? Kind of sounds like to me, that shouldn't factor into the conversation, right? Has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Kind of high schoolish, no?
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
Gudas for TvR+
ChuckinKnucks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jul 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
I think what I am complaining about is that I think certain people on this site just like to argue and be negative, just for the sake of arguing and being negative. And as a reader you get fed up, so I make a post. Not caring at all what people think.

When said people seem to have no ground to stand on in regards to my comment, they then say where did you come from? Characters coming out of the wood work? Kind of sounds like to me, that shouldn't factor into the conversation, right? Has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Kind of high schoolish, no?

- ChuckinKnucks


Either way, I will stay in my lane.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
Hextall said he had printer problems.
- Feanor



Fax machine is broke
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
The Wild have a bunch of centers on 1 and 2 year deals. Could definitely see Hextall going after someting there.
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