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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
I don’t hate the guy, but I’m trying to remember a time when Simmonds was a consistent physical presence out there 5 on 5.


- flyer_nutter


He's been a consistent physical presence his entire Flyers career except for last season when he had multiple injuries that clearly affected him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
Just 5 mill more than Weise the beer league press box camper🤩
- Landsbergfan

just seems a lot of money to be paying someone to play down there.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:52 AM ET
Bozak got 3 years $15 million from STL.

Maybe the Flyers are done?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:53 AM ET
🧔🐕
- -davies-

He was a gamer, that’s for sure.

Not great at D, but effort was never in doubt.

I’ll kind of miss him.

Could be a good #7 D somewhere.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don’t hate the guy, but I’m trying to remember a time when Simmonds was a consistent physical presence out there 5 on 5.

He’s damn good as a net front PP guy but beyond that? I like him, would keep him if the deal is right but I’m not in love with Wayne.

- flyer_nutter

The Flyers aren't a tough team to play against and losing Simmonds doesn't help that.
I was frustrated with him this year, gave him a pass after hearing about the injury. To me, he's the emotional leader of this team. I can see Konecny taking on that role someday but not right now.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
How would you feel if Simmonds plays out his year here and then walks out as a UFA for no return other then helping them this year?

I think this scenario is pretty likely unless the offers for him are so good they then trade him. Coming off an injury and no long term deal he is a one year rental, which lowers his trade value.

- Marc D

If given the choice I think simmer stays in Philly, maybe even a team friendly deal. He really respected and loved Ed Snider and he seems to still enjoy the Philly community, and players on the team. Plus this team is only getting better, so it's not like he'd be leaving a team that's in shambles to go to a better place.
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
He's been a consistent physical presence his entire Flyers career except for last season when he had multiple injuries that clearly affected him.
- MJL

I dislike agreeing with MJL but he is right. Simmonds has been consistent since coming over in the Richards trade. Plus he is one of the few guys we have who stands up for his teammates. I see no reason why Simmonds won't be back to his usual self this upcoming season. It may take him a little bit to find his timing and form again but he will be back
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
I respect John Tavares a great deal because playing for the Isles the last nine years had to feel ridiculous at times

At the same time, your last meetings with teams were Wednesday. It's Sunday. Teams that pitched you are waiting for your decision while free agency has started

I mean, come on, man. At some point, this isn't rocket science -- you just have to make the call and step into the unknown. It's like that every day for us folks in the real world when we change jobs. Yeah, you're under contract, but you're gonna get $70 million-plus for locking it in

Hell, the way this has gone, if there hadn't been an interview period and he had to start the process today, he might not have signed until training camp
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
If given the choice I think simmer stays in Philly, maybe even a team friendly deal. He really respected and loved Ed Snider and he seems to still enjoy the Philly community, and players on the team. Plus this team is only getting better, so it's not like he'd be leaving a team that's in shambles to go to a better place.
- moylander

I love this scenario, but not that optimistic about a team friendly deal.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
Bozak got 3 years $15 million from STL.

Maybe the Flyers are done?

- Flyers1218


That was the deal I was terrified the Flyers were gonna do

I am not joking
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
just seems a lot of money to be paying someone to play down there.
- 2Real


3rd line at ES isn't "down there" if the guy is also going to be part of PP1, which JVR will be.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
If given the choice I think simmer stays in Philly, maybe even a team friendly deal. He really respected and loved Ed Snider and he seems to still enjoy the Philly community, and players on the team. Plus this team is only getting better, so it's not like he'd be leaving a team that's in shambles to go to a better place.
- moylander

He's been on a team friendly deal his entire time here. He deserves to be paid. Hopefully they can work something out.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
🧔🐕
- -davies-


🙆‍♂️🤷‍♂️
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
Anyone see the video on G calling JVR a pigeon for a 2013 game? Why a pigeon?
- WhirlingDervish


Pigeon: describes a player that isn’t good enough to score goals by himself, so he picks up the trash of his more skilled linemates. Often used as trash talk, as made famous by Claude Giroux
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
Sixers meeting with LeBron today. It’s all happening.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
Pigeon: describes a player that isn’t good enough to score goals by himself, so he picks up the trash of his more skilled linemates. Often used as trash talk, as made famous by Claude Giroux
- -davies-


🐦
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
Top six is locked up for the foreseeable future. If Frost transitions to wing at the NHL level like some expect I just don't see where Simmonds fits long term.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
You could also say the Flyers missed PEB last yr too. Definitely would have helped their woeful PK.

It’s water under the bridge. BSchenn was a very good player. Hopefully the two 1st round picks pan out. Potentially they both seem likely to.

I’m more worried that signing JVR means goodbye Wayne. I know intangibles don’t score goals but Wayne does both. Very difficult to replace him imo.

- Marc D



hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
Pigeon: describes a player that isn’t good enough to score goals by himself, so he picks up the trash of his more skilled linemates. Often used as trash talk, as made famous by Claude Giroux
- -davies-

Funny considering that's basically Simmond's bread and butter.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
I dislike agreeing with MJL but he is right. Simmonds has been consistent since coming over in the Richards trade. Plus he is one of the few guys we have who stands up for his teammates. I see no reason why Simmonds won't be back to his usual self this upcoming season. It may take him a little bit to find his timing and form again but he will be back
- Myfreedomisback


This is a really, really big moment for me here in my HB career.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
[quote=BiggE]Islanders bringing back Thomas Hickey. Well, if that doesn't convince JT to get out of town I don't know what will.

😂🤣😂 they bring him back just for the name
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
You could also say the Flyers missed PEB last yr too. Definitely would have helped their woeful PK.

It’s water under the bridge. BSchenn was a very good player. Hopefully the two 1st round picks pan out. Potentially they both seem likely to.

I’m more worried that signing JVR means goodbye Wayne. I know intangibles don’t score goals but Wayne does both. Very difficult to replace him imo.

- Marc D

Was our PK good with Bellemare because I'm not sure it was. Bellemare and Vandevelde were our PK starters and I'm pretty sure Bellemare wasn't an above average faceoff man.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
He was a gamer, that’s for sure.

Not great at D, but effort was never in doubt.

I’ll kind of miss him.

Could be a good #7 D somewhere.

- Marc D


rather have him than gudas
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
Manning to Chicago.
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jul 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
This is a really, really big moment for me here in my HB career.

- MJL

It's a big moment for me too man. I always dislike agreeing with you but sometimes.... I just can't.
So glad we got to do this together!! The future is bright!
😂🤔
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