Regarding Karlsson, please tell me who the last 29+ year old that signed a big contract worked out. Maybe the first few years it’s good, but after 3/4 years it’s downhill.
- nyrangers9479

So you don’t take an elite player for 5 years because he might become a 2nd pair talent last 3 years? Smh. We’re not going to get that type of player in draft... Ever!!!!

Agreed.
I just think he goes to Toronto or San Jose. Can't blame him either, Isles pissed away too many chances to be taken seriously.
- TommyGTrain

I really thought he was going to re-sign with the Isles, but if he doesn't make a decision tonight, he loses the 8th year. I think he really wants to stay with the Islanders, but with their defense and goaltending situation, maybe he just doesn't see them as serious contenders.

It appears to me, Taveras is giving the Isles every opportunity to meet his requirements in order to stay, and it probably has nothing to do with money.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

After finally gaining some positive press with Lou & Trotz it would be typical Islanders to blow it and lose JT to another team now.

So you don’t take an elite player for 5 years because he might become a 2nd pair talent last 3 years? Smh. We’re not going to get that type of player in draft... Ever!!!!
- junaka3

I would definitely be interested in signing Karlsson - as a UFA NEXT year!

I have nothing against him as player...I just think it’s crazy to give up any assets for him. They can’t afford to trade any assets let alone the amount that it would take to get him. If he signs somewhere else sobeit. He does appear to wanna be a Ranger so he’s just gonna have to wait that part out if that’s the case. If we did a trade like that, I’d rather trade for Panarin (same scenario). But theyre currently trying to amass assets, certainly not looking to lose any

The LHD thing drives me nuts too but don’t compound that by trading for a soon to be UFA. That’s bad mgmt
- Slimtj100

As far as amassing assets... or losing them... the whole idea is to put a winning team on ice. We’ve accumulated way more than we need. If you look at Grabner and Nash as 2 players who are UFA . Not saying I’d trade these guys but we now have prospects K’Andre Miller, Rykov,Lindgren and players Spooner and Belesky. That’s quite a batch of players that we pretty much got for nothing, especially if you consider we can still sign Grabner and Nash might retire. Would that be enough to get Karlsson? Maybe swap out a few players. We’d still have 4 other 1st rounders from last 2 drafts plus Hajek. Again, I’m not saying I want to trade all these guys...Maybe you start with Zuc, who has been rumored to be trade bait. Now you’re possibly moving an older player plus what ever else.

I would definitely be interested in signing Karlsson - as a UFA NEXT year!
- TheMessiah94

Would you have traded for him last year?

Would you have traded for him last year?
- junaka3

No, a trade is going to take too many assets and/or roster players. Especially with the way the team played last year. Just wait until next year when he's a UFA.

I for one, am really excited to see what Quinn brings to the table. It seems that AV just lost it. Even the players said that practices were basically a leisurely skate. How does that happen?

So you don’t take an elite player for 5 years because he might become a 2nd pair talent last 3 years? Smh. We’re not going to get that type of player in draft... Ever!!!!
- junaka3

Actually that is kinda only how you get that player now

Stamkos
Hedman
Pietrangelo
Crosby
Malkin
Ovie
Backstrom
Kopitar
Doughty
Karlsson
McDavid

etc

The only ones that really moved were Hossa, Luongo and Burns

Considering teams are still waiting on Tavares, and that we probably had zero chance anyways, I don’t get how Kovy decision would’ve had anything to do with us. I’m not all for taking on Ryan, but if it means lowering the ask on Karlsson then maybe. If they take back someone like Smith and retain some salary? Ryan is 4 years younger than Kovy, who there’s no guarentee he puts up numbers like he used to. Probably can get same production out of Ryan.
I Definately don’t get the people that wouldn’t want Karlsson. Since lockout season he played full 82 games 3 straight years. Year before lockout, 81 games. Last year he missed 11 games, the most of his career. Considering what went on in Ottowa, I’m guessing he could’ve played more if necessary. His other seasons since rookie year where almost full seasons as well, so I don’t get the injury prone crap. As far as age, he just turned 28, as compared to a “younger guy” like Panarin who will be 27 at start of season. Karlsson would also fill one of our biggest needs, right D, compared to Tavares who wasn’t really a need
- junaka3

Had the Rangers led the sniper in Kovy to believe they would at least compete to reach the postseason, he may have delayed the Kings offer to see if that was so. After having met with both, one option would have been to go hard after Tavares as well, if he opted for free agency. Kovy would have also aided to groom along their Russian players, including Kravtsov at some point this season or by next season. The Kings in promising him they would do whatever possible to contend, (like later overpaying $11M per year for 8 years to retain Doughty yesterday), is what drew him to his second preference in California to reside and play in.
And you say that the Rangers don't need either player now, but are willing to pay dearly to acquire Karlsson & assume most to all of Bobby Ryan's annual $7.25M for 4 more seasons instead??? I would have rather had them pursue Tavares and Kovy's similar expected combined cap hits, without having to trade high for any, but only if the Rangers plan was to compete and contend.
On Karlsson, his 11 games missed last season WERE NOT THE MOST he ever missed in a season as you stated. Other than missing 12 games due to being demoted in his 2009/10 rookie season, he's been sidelined due to two severe foot injuries requiring major surgery. The first was in the lockout shortened 2012/13 season, when he played in only 17 games, due to Matt Cooke's skate tearing his achilles tendon.
His second surgery was after the 2017 postseason, in having torn tendons repaired which sidelined him through those first 11 games this past season. And he stated last season he wants to be the NHL's HIGHEST PAID PLAYER on his next contract. He later added that he would not re-sign with Ottawa, unless their ownership changes hands. So he may be a UFA next summer, when you can sign him without trading a single asset. Why hasn't any other team agreed to Ottawa's trade demands for him + Ryan combined??? Karlsson is also far below a McDonagh defensive wise, for the 14 Goals and 44 Assists Karlsson has averaged in 70 games played per season, along with being a (-36) combined for his career despite his offensive contributions.

Had the Rangers led the sniper in Kovy to believe that they would improve the roster to compete at a minimum to reach the postseason, he may have delayed the Kings offer to see just if that was so. After having met with both, that could have been for one option, to go hard after Tavares as well, if he opted for free agency. Kovy would have also aided the grooming of their Russian players along, including Kravtsov whether that would be at some point this season or by next season. The Kings in promising him they would do whatever possible to contend, (like later paying $11M per for 8 years to retain Doughty yesterday), is what drew him to select his second preference in California to reside and play in. And you say that the Rangers don't need either player at this point, but are willing to have to pay dearly to acquire Karlsson + assume most to all of Bobby Ryan's $7.25M annually for 4 more seasons instead??? I would have rather had them pursue Tavares and Kovy's approximate similar range expected combined cap hits, without having to trade high for them, but only if the Rangers plan was to compete and contend.
On Karlsson, his 11 games missed last season WERE NOT THE MOST he ever missed in a season as you stated wrongly. Other than he missing 12 games due to being demoted in his 2009/10 rookie season, he has been sidelined due to two severe foot injuries requiring major surgery. The first was in the lockout shortened 2012/13 season, when he played in only 17 games of that half season's approximate length, due to Matt Cooke's skate tearing his achilles tendon. The second surgery came after the 2017 postseason, when he had torn tendons repaired, which sidelined him through the first 11 games of this season. And he stated last season that he wants to be the NHL's HIGHEST PAID PLAYER on his next contract. He also stated later that he would not re-sign with Ottawa, unless their ownership changes hands. So he will likely be a UFA next summer, when you can sign him without trading a single asset. Why hasn't any other team agreed to Ottawa's trade demands for him + Ryan combined??? Karlsson is also far below Ryan McDonagh defensive wise, for the 14 Goals and 44 Assists Karlsson has averaged in 70 games played per season, along with being a (-36) combined for his career.
- RangerSaver

Paragraphs are your friend, a giant wall of text like this turns people off from reading, trust me.

I really thought he was going to re-sign with the Isles, but if he doesn't make a decision tonight, he loses the 8th year. I think he really wants to stay with the Islanders, but with their defense and goaltending situation, maybe he just doesn't see them as serious contenders.
- TheMessiah94

Wow. Didn't know that about losing 8th year. Would he really give that up and re-sign with isles!!? If so...he be dumb

Paragraphs are your friend, a giant wall of text like this turns people off from reading, trust me.
- RustyKuntz

Paragraphs are your friend, a giant wall of text like this turns people off from reading, trust me.
- RustyKuntz

I know that, Rusty. I'm sorry if it upset you or others.
But it was meant ONLY for that one member that replied to me, who has this infatuation that Karlsson is the Bobby Orr or Brian Leetch of this era, in addition to wanting to pay high in exchange first to acquire him and Ryan during a now, REBUILD. So I pointed the key facts out to him, along with an alternative on signing Tavares and Kovy, had their plan instead been to contend, as he thinks Karlsson & Ryan will make them do..

I know that, Rusty. I'm sorry if it upset you or others.
But it was meant ONLY for that one member that replied to me, who has this infatuation that Karlsson is the Bobby Orr or Brian Leetch of this era, in addition to wanting to pay high in exchange first to acquire him and Ryan during a now, REBUILD. So I pointed the key facts out to him, along with an alternative on signing Tavares and Kovy, had their plan instead been to contend, as he thinks Karlsson & Ryan will make them do..
- RangerSaver

Maybe It is taking so long because JT signed with NYR and is scared to announce it.......I know..I'm dreaming, but that would be hilarious

So what 4th line winger are we going to overpay for tomorrow?

So what 4th line winger are we going to overpay for tomorrow?
- TPC

Ha. NYR won't be the only team doing same thing..As long as guys they sign play well....I don't really care much about an extra mill or year. Cap is our friend next few years

So what 4th line winger are we going to overpay for tomorrow?
- TPC

Or do we overpay for Bieksa? Toughness and RHD.

Wow. Didn't know that about losing 8th year. Would he really give that up and re-sign with isles!!? If so...he be dumb
- rrentz

Really makes no sense now that he stays on LI. That 8th yr was imperative to get from them. I don’t think another hour and half is gonna change anything. Crazy I never thought he’d leave there. My guess is sign n trade with Tronna announced in the next 90 minutes

JVR to Philly

JVR to Philly
- Slimtj100

JVR to Philly
- Slimtj100

Southern NJ boy basically goes home.

Per Buccigross: Source tells me James van Riemsdyk will sign a 5 year deal with @NHLFlyers. 7 million dollar cap number

Southern NJ boy basically goes home.
- airjan23

Central/Northern. Monmouth country is NYC federal reserve region of the state.

Per Buccigross: Source tells me James van Riemsdyk will sign a 5 year deal with @NHLFlyers. 7 million dollar cap number
- airjan23

That’s not terrible

Central/Northern. Monmouth country is NYC federal reserve region of the state.
- tomburton99

Got it. For some reason thought he was from further south. It's my Hudson and Bergen County upbringing