Mike Kelly
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Fluid situation but appears likely scenario for Erik Karlsson is....
1) Gets traded to Vegas with Bobby Ryan sooner rather than later...
2) Senators look to free agency to fill open D spot as opposed to what would come back from Vegas.

Joe Haggerty
‏Verified account @HackswithHaggs
2m2 minutes ago

Don Sweeney indicates that Anton Khudobin is "probably going in a different direction" with the July 1 open of free agency right around the corner. Sweeney: "We'll have some holes to fill"

Joe Haggerty
‏Verified account @HackswithHaggs
2m2 minutes ago

Don Sweeney indicates that Anton Khudobin is "probably going in a different direction" with the July 1 open of free agency right around the corner. Sweeney: "We'll have some holes to fill"
- Stripes77

Nothing about JT?

The double standard here is amazing

If Jack Eichel just stays a 60 point player, despite us tanking for him, and giving him a giant contract, he will be public enemy number 1.

But “It’s not O’Reilly’s fault” we decided to pony up assets and give him the largest contract in team history at the time.
- sbroads24

Also this team finished in 31st place, dead franking last, again....
He is our best trade chip that can be moved without creating another huge hole, he has high perceived value around the league and he plays a position of great value to other teams.

He is not the reason the Sabres are bad, but to consider him an angel in all of it is completely misguided.
When you finish last in the league there have to be changes

So is ROR added to the list of players/situations that we will argue about for forever?

Myers / Drury / Briere / Miller and so on


(ugh)

Also this team finished in 31st place, dead franking last, again....
He is our best trade chip that can be moved without creating another huge hole, he has high perceived value around the league and he plays a position of great value to other teams.

He is not the reason the Sabres are bad, but to consider him an angel in all of it is completely misguided.
When you finish last in the league there have to be changes
- Sabres1523

This is a very reasonable post

Also this team finished in 31st place, dead franking last, again....
He is our best trade chip that can be moved without creating another huge hole, he has high perceived value around the league and he plays a position of great value to other teams.

He is not the reason the Sabres are bad, but to consider him an angel in all of it is completely misguided.
When you finish last in the league there have to be changes
- Sabres1523

Except you’ve taken a position of strength and made it average again. The notion that we are 31st because of ROR is laughable ( not directed at you)...everyone that played on the team last year is equally responsible... that includes golden boy jack...
I’m fine with making changes but they better be changes that make the talent level increase and not just changes to make changes... in other words if ROR is traded we better get something damn good in return.a couple of future low round draft picks and some scrub with a bum knee isn’t better.

His leadership is quite evident by this teams performance since he’s been here
- sbroads24

Then Jack is a sh!tty leader too

one guy throws his teammates under the bus, the other guy sits in the corner sucking his thumb saying he has to be better, another turns red-faced at a press conference, one does blow, another is a pot head, one doesn't listen to his coaches, another misses Ted Nolan, another blames the team for his crappy stats in a contract year..

who do we keep?
- Der Kaiser

Keep the guy who does blow, at least he is fun at parties.

His leadership is quite evident by this teams performance since he’s been here
- sbroads24

McDavid must have regressed as a leader in EDM

Hall must have finally figured out how to lead in NJ

MacKinnon must have been a sh!tty leader till this year

Etc, etc, etc

Overall team performance is not a metric to show an individuals “leadership”

The double standard here is amazing

If Jack Eichel just stays a 60 point player, despite us tanking for him, and giving him a giant contract, he will be public enemy number 1.

But “It’s not O’Reilly’s fault” we decided to pony up assets and give him the largest contract in team history at the time.
- sbroads24

He leads by example, you know that example he sets everyday on and off the ice with how hard he tried all season.

McDavid must have regressed as a leader in EDM

Hall must have finally figured out how to lead in NJ

MacKinnon must have been a sh!tty leader till this year

Etc, etc, etc

Overall team performance is not a metric to show an individuals “leadership”
- jdfitz77

"I gave up several time this season" Who said this?

A) McDavid
B) MacKinnon
C) ROR
D) Eichel
E) Hall

Then Jack is a sh!tty leader too
- jdfitz77

Jack Was traded to be a leader on another team and then gave up on that team?

Huh, who knew?

Throw ROR on the garbage heap.

Build the team around Jack.

Because the record w Jack is far more impressive than the record with ROR.
- Der Kaiser

😂😂😂😂😂

"I gave up several time this season" Who said this?

A) McDavid
B) MacKinnon
C) ROR
D) Eichel
E) Hall
- ImThatGuy

1) O’Reilly didn’t say that
2) different point

Is he solely responsible? Absolutely not. Partly, absolutely.

And yes, I think it will be addition by subtraction. And that’s not because he’s a bad player. He’s a bad fit here, and it’s been evident for 2 years now.

It’s not a coincidence that he leads the team in ice time for forwards and we are the lowest scoring team in hockey.

He’s deployed like a franchise center because of his reputation and his pay check. Even those minutes out between guys like Rodrigues and Mittelstadt and I’d bet money we score more goals.

He doesn’t score goals 5 on 5. He doesn’t generate shots 5 on 5.

He does really well defensively. That’s his value
- sbroads24

This applies to the whole roster.

There's a whole lot of reasons we didn't score 5 on 5. The guy put up 61 points on a team that didn't score. 5v5 or not, 61 points is 61 points; on an offensively inept team, those are good numbers.

He was logging tons of minutes because we needed him to. You said so yourself -- he does really well defensively. We couldn't trust any other forward to do his job, or share the load.

I can't claim to know poop about his leadership or presence in the locker room. He's a helluva hockey player though. That's for sure.

Also this team finished in 31st place, dead franking last, again....
He is our best trade chip that can be moved without creating another huge hole, he has high perceived value around the league and he plays a position of great value to other teams.

He is not the reason the Sabres are bad, but to consider him an angel in all of it is completely misguided.
When you finish last in the league there have to be changes
- Sabres1523

I want to be absolutely clear.

I know we finished dead last again. I also know ROR has to accept some blame for the result, and that there have to be changes.

I'm not saying the result is Jack's fault instead of ROR's. I'm saying they are both responsible. And I'm saying that focusing only on ROR is faulty logic.

Everybody wants to keep Jack because he is seen as a player than can contribute to the success of the team in the future. The stats, and the trade value throughout the league, indicate that ROR can also contribute to the success of the team in the future.

The torchbearers and pitchfork guys are deciding to trade ROR based on emotion, and groupthink, more than on logic.

Jack Was traded to be a leader on another team and then gave up on that team?

Huh, who knew?
- ImThatGuy

I’ll say it again SLOW...

Team record
is not a metric
for individual leadership

I want to be absolutely clear.

I know we finished dead last again. I also know ROR has to accept some blame for the result, and that there have to be changes.

I'm not saying the result is Jack's fault instead of ROR's. I'm saying they are both responsible. And I'm saying that focusing only on ROR is faulty logic.

Everybody wants to keep Jack because he is seen as a player than can contribute to the success of the team in the future. The stats, and the trade value throughout the league, indicate that ROR can also contribute to the success of the team in the future.

The torchbearers and pitchfork guys are deciding to trade ROR based on emotion, and groupthink, more than on logic.
- Der Kaiser

Team finished 31st.
Guy was brought in to be a leader. Admits he gave up several time this year.
Locker room is supposedly at ends between he and Eichel
He will bring back very good value
He is going to get worse with age.
HE is already slow.
he doesn't fit the system.

Nah, no logic used at all here.

I want to be absolutely clear.

I know we finished dead last again. I also know ROR has to accept some blame for the result, and that there have to be changes.

I'm not saying the result is Jack's fault instead of ROR's. I'm saying they are both responsible. And I'm saying that focusing only on ROR is faulty logic.

Everybody wants to keep Jack because he is seen as a player than can contribute to the success of the team in the future. The stats, and the trade value throughout the league, indicate that ROR can also contribute to the success of the team in the future.

The torchbearers and pitchfork guys are deciding to trade ROR based on emotion, and groupthink, more than on logic.
- Der Kaiser

Great post

McDavid must have regressed as a leader in EDM

Hall must have finally figured out how to lead in NJ

MacKinnon must have been a sh!tty leader till this year

Etc, etc, etc

Overall team performance is not a metric to show an individuals “leadership”
- jdfitz77

huh.....

This applies to the whole roster.

There's a whole lot of reasons we didn't score 5 on 5. The guy put up 61 points on a team that didn't score. 5v5 or not, 61 points is 61 points; on an offensively inept team, those are good numbers.

He was logging tons of minutes because we needed him to. You said so yourself -- he does really well defensively. We couldn't trust any other forward to do his job, or share the load.

I can't claim to know poop about his leadership or presence in the locker room. He's a helluva hockey player though. That's for sure.
- BareMetal

I thought this too, but he is on the ice more than most people in the entire league, he should have more points. Hes a 50-60 point guy.

He is a 2nd line center. nothing more/ nothing less.

huh.....
- DDM-Coga

Cliff notes.

ROR is all that is man and the best player to ever play the hockey.

Also, a great leader.

Wow, Pilut has some crazy stick work here. Imagine doing that in a game, make dudes like silly.

https://twitter.com/TheCh...tatus/1012685892585181184

huh.....
- DDM-Coga

There’s a poster on here who said O’Reilly was a bad leader bc our team was not winning

I was using comparisons from other teams to show how ridiculous that statement was

Anyways...
u guys keeping Varlamov?
Or do u think u will trade him?