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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
Agreed. I've been saying this forever. No guaranteed contracts. You want more money, play better.
- Powerslave


Agreed, the contracts should be incentive based.
We will pay you $150k per goal, $100k per primary assist, and $50k per secondary assist .
25/20/15 player gets out at $6.2m
Something like that.

Have an off year, oh well...you get paid less.
Want more?,...score more

Obviously overly simplistic, but closer to that than what is now.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
Because Fabbri is only 22 and a really good winger.

Knee issues are a concern but if you can get him cheap he is absolutely worth a look.

- ImThatGuy



Point totals of 37 and 29 in two seasons. Injury prone, two massive injuries. Pass unless he’s basically a sweetener.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
Because Fabbri is only 22 and a really good winger. He scores at a better P/60 rate than ROR

Knee issues are a concern but if you can get him cheap he is absolutely worth a look.

- ImThatGuy

Getting him for RoR is not cheap. Why not target Kotsin or Barbashev then
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
This is just nonsense...All but a very few are saying he is a cancer in the locker room. Fake news.
- sabresfan69


It is a giant coincidence that the "very few" are the ones who are actually *IN* the locker room.

As to them, watch at 4:00

sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
It is a giant coincidence that the "very few" are the ones who are actually *IN* the locker room.

As to them, watch at 4:00


- Der Kaiser

Are you talking about the kid with cancer? I didn't hear anyone call him a cancer in the locker room...seems to be a disconnect here.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
It is a giant coincidence that the "very few" are the ones who are actually *IN* the locker room.

As to them, watch at 4:00


- Der Kaiser

Are you talking about the kid with cancer? I didn't hear anyone call him a cancer in the locker room...seems to be a disconnect here.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
Point totals of 37 and 29 in two seasons. Injury prone, two massive injuries. Pass unless he’s basically a sweetener.
- Fattony1187


There you go!
Not THE central piece, and really doing the Blues a favor by taking the risk.
If they like him, keep him...fine by me.

I want another younger RHD to potentially be Dahlin's partner for the next 6/7 years.
Parayko fits the bill for me...and it pushes Risto down to 2nd pairing where he can be a beast.
Some like Parayko think he is a very solid #2, others think he regressed...I'll take him... plus a good prospect and draft choice ... keep the draft choice and insert Fabbri...we can up the offer with say Bailey.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:42 AM ET
Are you talking about the kid with cancer? I didn't hear anyone call him a cancer in the locker room...seems to be a disconnect here.
- sabresfan69


No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
I don't yhink we can throw the entirety of the blame on ROR.
As our mommies always said, it takes two to tango.

I remember posters with sources indicating that the locker room was somewhat divided young versus old. Young were partying too much, old were getting fedup with it...not that they were "clean" either. It clearly has impacted the on ice performance and something needs to give...

Management seems to have picked their youth to go forward with...great to see Reino clean up his game and produce like a 2OA should be. Eichel ain't going anywhere, hopefully he matures and takes the next step...maybe more likely with his sidekick cleaned up and his partybuddy Kane gone.
If they have identified the need to part ways with his antagonist ROR, then so be it...I'm ok with that as well. I'm ok keeping ROR as well and have marriage counseling brought in to resolve conflicts...and tough love to tell them to act like adults and properly earn their combined $17.5m ffs!!!
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.

- Der Kaiser


AKA Blues, Sharks and Habs. Drive that return lower.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
Hutton is gonna be a Sabre.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 29 @ 10:51 AM ET
No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.

- Der Kaiser



I already went over this, labatt lobbyists and PR team just covering up a massive conspiracy
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:51 AM ET
No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.

- Der Kaiser


So why is it he forced a trade of the Av's and conveniently its happening again?

just has to be coincidence that this bad luck just follows ROR, right?

Also, in a promotional video at Roswell, is Gionta supposed to say "Yea ROR is just not the leader we are looking for"
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:54 AM ET
No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.

- Der Kaiser

His leadership is quite evident by this teams performance since he’s been here
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
So why is it he forced a trade of the Av's and conveniently its happening again?

just has to be coincidence that this bad luck just follows ROR, right?

Also, in a promotional video at Roswell, is Gionta supposed to say "Yea ROR is just not the leader we are looking for"

- ImThatGuy

I take anything anyone says while wearing a Santa Claus hat 100% seriously
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:55 AM ET
No. That’s my point exactly. You said everyone but a few call ROR cancer.

Everybody calling ROR a cancer is outside the locker room.

Gionta - one of the guys in the room - in fact the team’s captain at the time - complimented ROR for his leadership.

- Der Kaiser

Green Olives are underrated.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:02 AM ET
Green Olives are underrated.
- SABRES 89


BOOM
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
His leadership is quite evident by this teams performance since he’s been here
- sbroads24


This.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
Green Olives are underrated.
- SABRES 89


Especially in a dirty vodka martini...shaken, not stirred.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
BOOM
- 22sabresQ

That's for the German guy who seems to have issues with olives
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
His leadership is quite evident by this teams performance since he’s been here
- sbroads24


I really hate dogging ROR it seems like I hate the guy, but

He has been on some awful teams. He gets traded off of the Avs and they are instantly better.

Patrick Roy stated that ROR was never seen as, nor acted as a leader in Colorado.

He gets traded to the Sabres and the Sabres go backwards.

but again, all coincidence.

That said, I think he still holds value around the league until his reputation becomes a headache and not worth it.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
Especially in a dirty vodka martini...shaken, not stirred.
- IonSabres

oh my
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
I really hate dogging ROR it seems like I hate the guy, but

He has been on some awful teams. He gets traded off of the Avs and they are instantly better.

Patrick Roy stated that ROR was never seen as, nor acted as a leader in Colorado.

He gets traded to the Sabres and the Sabres go backwards.

but again, all coincidence.

That said, I think he still holds value around the league until his reputation becomes a headache and not worth it.

- ImThatGuy


I've thought about this quite a bit. The "leadership" question with him is over rated IMO. Not that it isn't real, just not such a huge deal. With that said, I think sending him to a team that already has a leader in place (Petro in STL) would do wonders for him. At both his stops, the "Leader" seemed to be in limbo and he thought that he had done enough, then not received the credit perhaps? Landy taking it from him in CO, then ECHL taking it here? Both younger then him, and wasn't really in place when he started. Just a thought. Send him to a place where he's not taking 60% d zone faceoffs, has legit wingers (Tarasanko), and a leader in place and he probably flourishes. This is at least how I'd sell it to DA.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
I enjoy watching O'Reilly play hockey
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
I enjoy watching O'Reilly play hockey
- jcragcrumple


I don't enjoy anything
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