He's a net negative for the Sabres. Including him means the rest of the deal has to improve, which means thomas
- jcragcrumple

They can take Zach Bogosian for free

Three things the NHL needs.

Club/player option contracts.
Non - fully guaranteed contracts.
Limit the NTC/NMC clause to years in league. AKA you don't get one until you have 5 years in the league. 5 Years 10 teams, 8 years 12 teams, 10 years full NTC/NMC
- ImThatGuy

I really can't stand these aspects of the NBA and NFL. It makes contract negotiations a frivolous exercise. The whole idea behind a contract is finality that represents a mutual meeting of the two contracting parties minds...

Player X signs a 7 year deal worth $150 mil....but its only guaranteed for a year.....that's (frank)ing stupid.

Or, Player X signs a 4 year deal worth $85 mil...but he has to hope and pray the team picks up the 4th year of his deal.

Fully guaranteed contracts for the length of the contracts provides the players with stability instead of being bought and sold like cattle. And the owners already have trades, buyouts, and waivers to remedy a contract that doesn't work out.

I was just answering the question

BTW the blues don't need to make this deal it would be nice but DA wont get taken advantage of either
- sycsam

It's not like we're trading you Girgensons.

You know what you're getting with ROR. 20-25 goals, 55-60 points, never loses a draw. I don't think DA is being taken advantage of, as he knows exactly what he's trading for.

That's bullpoop. Drilling holes through your leg multiple times is never a good thing that makes you stronger.

Like I said, it's mostly a mental issue. It has nothing to do with how stable the knee is. And a lot of guys never get over it.
- Wetbandit1

Sheary makes me nervous. Kinda like he will be Leino 2.0. Thankfully we didn't spend a 6th on him and it was only a 3/4.
- soljor09

You guys are all saying ROR has to go

there goes some of Botterills leverage no?

It will be a trade similar to the Ryan Miller trade

A roster player + mid prospect + first
- sycsam

You are correct. WE, the hockeybuzz posters, are saying ROR has to go.

Botts is not.

Botts is not shopping him. Teams are calling him. There's your difference.

I really can't stand these aspects of the NBA and NFL. It makes contract negotiations a frivolous exercise. The whole idea behind a contract is finality that represents a mutual meeting of the two contracting parties minds...

Player X signs a 7 year deal worth $150 mil....but its only guaranteed for a year.....that's (frank)ing stupid.

Or, Player X signs a 4 year deal worth $85 mil...but he has to hope and pray the team picks up the 4th year of his deal.

Fully guaranteed contracts for the length of the contracts provides the players with stability instead of being bought and sold like cattle. And the owners already have trades, buyouts, and waivers to remedy a contract that doesn't work out.
- feetontheair22

Or you have guys like Leino, Ehrhoff, etc etc, that get their massive payday and then just "Lose their love for the game"

It goes both ways. non fully guaranteed contracts would open all new avenues for trades.

Or the GM's can stop being idiots, but I dont see that happening. something has to change.

You are correct. WE, the hockeybuzz posters, are saying ROR has to go.

Botts is not.

Botts is not shopping him. Teams are calling him. There's your difference.
- Powerslave

The blues know they can’t go into the season without a center they will pay

Or you have guys like Leino, Ehrhoff, etc etc, that get their massive payday and then just "Lose their love for the game"

It goes both ways. non fully guaranteed contracts would open all new avenues for trades.

Or the GM's can stop being idiots, but I dont see that happening. something has to change.
- ImThatGuy

Agreed. I've been saying this forever. No guaranteed contracts. You want more money, play better.

The blues know they can’t go into the season without a center they will pay
- gerbe75pts

Correct.

Anyone know if the prospect game is going to be stream ?

Anyone know if the prospect game is going to be stream ?
- gerbe75pts

Yeah, sabres.com

Or you have guys like Leino, Ehrhoff, etc etc, that get their massive payday and then just "Lose their love for the game"

It goes both ways. non fully guaranteed contracts would open all new avenues for trades.

Or the GM's can stop being idiots, but I dont see that happening. something has to change.
- ImThatGuy

Player X is under contract and is playing like poop. He has two choices...go play for the Amerks, or be in breach of contract and don't get paid. Simple.

You make that the rule and add a "good faith effort to trade" clause into the contracts, and you have solved your issue while still giving the player some stability in his life.

guaranteed contracts makes the GM job more important

weaseling out of bad deals is such a get out of jail free card

Further Hutton confirmation


Andy Strickland
‏Verified account @andystrickland
14m14 minutes ago

Sounds like Carter Hutton will in fact be joining the Buffalo #Sabres. Best opportunity for him. Had a lot of interest. More info to come Sunday #stlblues

Player X is under contract and is playing like poop. He has two choices...go play for the Amerks, or be in breach of contract and don't get paid. Simple.

- feetontheair22

It's the coach's fault.
Signed, the PA.

HB SABRES THREAD: "ROR is cancer and the Sabres will be a better team by just getting rid of him. He has no passion for the game and he is a prima donna. He's pulled the same BS his entire career, he's slow, he's old, his back is getting worse, and his skill set really doesn't help teams win. Plus he's in a war with the face of the franchise and it's all his fault, not Jack's."

OTHER HB POSTERS: "OK, then we're only going to give you dogcrap in exchange for that dogcrap player."

HB SABRES: "We're just making it all up. Our GM is the only one who really knows whats going on. If you don't offer us big assets, we'll keep our future captain."

I think its going to be a bigger trade with multiple pieces from each team changing hands.

Buffalo is doing a massive favor by paying ROR a $6.5MM bonus July 1 so STL does not have to. That will have to account for something.

Again, we shall wait and see, if it happens at all.
- ImThatGuy

I saw the bonus payment this year is actually $7.5m, and then a salaffy of $1m, but the cap hit isn"only" $7.5m

*Does obi wan jedi wave*

You will give us Thomas and Fabbri
- jcragcrumple

Why do you want Fabbri? The dude is damaged goods and wont last much longer with two broken knees

HB SABRES THREAD: "ROR is cancer and the Sabres will be a better team by just getting rid of him. He has no passion for the game and he is a prima donna. He's pulled the same BS his entire career, he's slow, he's old, his back is getting worse, and his skill set really doesn't help teams win. Plus he's in a war with the face of the franchise and it's all his fault, not Jack's."

OTHER HB POSTERS: "OK, then we're only going to give you dogcrap in exchange for that dogcrap player."

HB SABRES: "We're just making it all up. Our GM is the only one who really knows whats going on. If you don't offer us big assets, we'll keep our future captain."




- Der Kaiser

DUDE! At least throw up a spoiler alert!

HB SABRES THREAD: "ROR is cancer and the Sabres will be a better team by just getting rid of him. He has no passion for the game and he is a prima donna. He's pulled the same BS his entire career, he's slow, he's old, his back is getting worse, and his skill set really doesn't help teams win. Plus he's in a war with the face of the franchise and it's all his fault, not Jack's."

OTHER HB POSTERS: "OK, then we're only going to give you dogcrap in exchange for that dogcrap player."

HB SABRES: "We're just making it all up. Our GM is the only one who really knows whats going on. If you don't offer us big assets, we'll keep our future captain."




- Der Kaiser

This is just nonsense...All but a very few are saying he is a cancer in the locker room. Fake news.

Why do you want Fabbri? The dude is damaged goods and wont last much longer with two broken knees
- sabresfan69

I want wingers. I'd take a shot on Fabbri before Sobotka. At least there's upside. Parayko is meh for me. Thomas and Fabbri is where it's at

Why do you want Fabbri? The dude is damaged goods and wont last much longer with two broken knees
- sabresfan69

Preach on.

HB SABRES THREAD: "ROR is cancer and the Sabres will be a better team by just getting rid of him. He has no passion for the game and he is a prima donna. He's pulled the same BS his entire career, he's slow, he's old, his back is getting worse, and his skill set really doesn't help teams win. Plus he's in a war with the face of the franchise and it's all his fault, not Jack's."

OTHER HB POSTERS: "OK, then we're only going to give you dogcrap in exchange for that dogcrap player."

HB SABRES: "We're just making it all up. Our GM is the only one who really knows whats going on. If you don't offer us big assets, we'll keep our future captain."




- Der Kaiser

ROR is allegedly causing issues in a broken locker room.
He still has value around the league.
He has shown a tendency (Colordao) to do this before

He needs to be moved and you can still get a good return, see Cater, Richards.

In this case you can have it both ways.

Why do you want Fabbri? The dude is damaged goods and wont last much longer with two broken knees
- sabresfan69

Because Fabbri is only 22 and a really good winger. He scores at a better P/60 rate than ROR

Knee issues are a concern but if you can get him cheap he is absolutely worth a look.