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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
How many 5 on 5 points does Jack have to rack up to justify his 10 million dollar contract this year?
- PrinceChill



If jack doesn’t have at least 80 points (total)next season this place will be intolerable. (it’s damn near that now though)
hammatoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
I've thought about this quite a bit. The "leadership" question with him is over rated IMO. Not that it isn't real, just not such a huge deal. With that said, I think sending him to a team that already has a leader in place (Petro in STL) would do wonders for him. At both his stops, the "Leader" seemed to be in limbo and he thought that he had done enough, then not received the credit perhaps? Landy taking it from him in CO, then ECHL taking it here? Both younger then him, and wasn't really in place when he started. Just a thought. Send him to a place where he's not taking 60% d zone faceoffs, has legit wingers (Tarasanko), and a leader in place and he probably flourishes. This is at least how I'd sell it to DA.
- SDSabre


This!

I have loved his game since he was drafted and think that joining a team with established leadership with allow him to flourish. In my opinion, he should be the captain of this team and should have been named as such last year regardless of whether or not he is more of a 3rd line center on a talented team or not. He would still get his ice time simply because he is the one you want taking defensive zone draws as well as penalty kill. Is he worth 7.5/yr for that? No but adding 60 point helps not that he'd do that in a 3rd line roll for sure. With that being said, this team needs a shake up and he is a very valuable piece that could hopefully net us something of need. Assuming our pipeline continues to progress, we should be fine at center very soon and moving his contract for players that can fill another roll, really may be the right call at the time.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
How many 5 on 5 points does Jack have to rack up to justify his 10 million dollar contract this year?
- PrinceChill

He didn’t make 10 mil this year. He was on his rookie deal.

Oh, and still more than O’Reilly in a lot less games
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
Jonathan Willis

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Carter Hutton at even-strength.

Age 27-31:
- 2169 shots faced
- 0.916 SV%

Age 32:
- 670 shots faced
- 0.936 SV%

Age 27-32:
- 2839 shots faced
- 0.920 SV%
- NHL average over these years: 0.918 EVSV%
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
If jack doesn’t have at least 80 points (total)next season this place will be intolerable. (it’s damn near that now though)
- gordong

I think it’s fair to have high expectations for a 10 million dollar a year player. He needs to bring a lot.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
Jonathan Willis

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Carter Hutton at even-strength.

Age 27-31:
- 2169 shots faced
- 0.916 SV%

Age 32:
- 670 shots faced
- 0.936 SV%

Age 27-32:
- 2839 shots faced
- 0.920 SV%
- NHL average over these years: 0.918 EVSV%

- TheSabresTaco

It’s a risky deal if it’s more than 2-3 years
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
He didn’t make 10 mil this year. He was on his rookie deal.

Oh, and still more than O’Reilly in a lot less games

- sbroads24


He asking about this year 2019.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
Jonathan Willis

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@JonathanWillis
1h1 hour ago
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Carter Hutton at even-strength.

Age 27-31:
- 2169 shots faced
- 0.916 SV%

Age 32:
- 670 shots faced
- 0.936 SV%

Age 27-32:
- 2839 shots faced
- 0.920 SV%
- NHL average over these years: 0.918 EVSV%

- TheSabresTaco



Here's hoping he is the next Tim Thomas
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
ROR wants to be captain, displays no leadership(As described by his former coach), captain given to landeskog.
ROR pouts his way out of Colorado.

ROR traded to buffalo
Wants to be captain

Doesnt get captaincy
Stops his after ice practice sessions
Rumors off locker room issues
About to be traded off of buffalo.

All coincidental, I assume.

- ImThatGuy


Yeah, you’re right...
it was O’Reilly’s fault that guys like:
Moulson, Griffith, Criscuolo, Tennyson, Redmond, Nolan, Josefson, Falk, Fedun, etc we’re playing NHL games

It’s was O’Reilly’s fault that he was playing with Scott Wilson as a winger

O’Reilly’s fault that Eichel had to play with Girgensons on his wing

Oreillys fault that Bogo got hurt again/stinks

O’Reilly’s fault that Gorges is, well Gorges

O’Reillys fault that Sam & Okposo has absolutely horrible 1st halves

O’Reillys fault that our goaltending SUCKED


IF ONLY HE’D HAVE BEEN A BETTER LEADER...
ALL OF THAT WOULDVE BEEN MAGICALLY FIXED

RIGHT?
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
He didn’t make 10 mil this year. He was on his rookie deal.

Oh, and still more than O’Reilly in a lot less games

- sbroads24

I was referring to this upcoming season. How many 5 on 5 points does Jack need to accumulate to justify his 10 million dollar 2018-2019 season price tag?
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
I think it’s fair to have high expectations for a 10 million dollar a year player. He needs to bring a lot.
- PrinceChill


I agree... but they better get some guys to help.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 1:54 PM ET
I was referring to this upcoming season. How many 5 on 5 points does Jack need to accumulate to justify his 10 million dollar 2018-2019 season price tag?
- PrinceChill

40-45

Edit - 50 would be solid top 10-15
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:54 PM ET
Here's hoping he is the next Tim Thomas
- Stripes77


That WOULD/WOOD be nice!
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 29 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yeah, you’re right...
it was O’Reilly’s fault that guys like:
Moulson, Griffith, Criscuolo, Tennyson, Redmond, Nolan, Josefson, Falk, Fedun, etc we’re playing NHL games

It’s was O’Reilly’s fault that he was playing with Scott Wilson as a winger

O’Reilly’s fault that Eichel had to play with Girgensons on his wing

Oreillys fault that Bogo got hurt again/stinks

O’Reilly’s fault that Gorges is, well Gorges

O’Reillys fault that Sam & Okposo has absolutely horrible 1st halves

O’Reillys fault that our goaltending SUCKED


IF ONLY HE’D HAVE BEEN A BETTER LEADER...
ALL OF THAT WOULDVE BEEN MAGICALLY FIXED

RIGHT?

- jdfitz77


RoR had a horrible first half too. Can we blame him for that?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
Not that any of this stupid bullpoop should be carried to the next blog, but it's new and untarnished, waiting for you aszholes to ruin it.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 29 @ 2:02 PM ET
40-45

Edit - 50 would be solid top 10-15

- sbroads24

Seems low. That puts him Reilly Smith range. 65-70, or more seems right for the price.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 2:03 PM ET
Seems low. That puts him Reilly Smith range. 65-70, or more seems right for the price.
- PrinceChill

50 5 on 5 points would be in the Stamkos or Johnny Hockey region
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
RoR had a horrible first half too. Can we blame him for that?
- Lunaion


Sure
I never claimed he was an MVP

Blaming us losing on ONE guy’s lack of leadership...

When the team had INARGUABLY many, many holes...

is beyond dumb


I’ll just use ONE of our holes to prove my point

ANYONE...
please explain how if O’Reilly was a better leader, that Lehner & Johnson would’ve made more saves?

I’ll wait
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:06 PM ET
What did I miss
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
What did I miss
- gerbe75pts


Not a damn thing.
thisisderrik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
ROR wants to be captain, displays no leadership(As described by his former coach), captain given to landeskog.
ROR pouts his way out of Colorado.

ROR traded to buffalo
Wants to be captain

Doesnt get captaincy
Stops his after ice practice sessions
Rumors off locker room issues
About to be traded off of buffalo.

All coincidental, I assume.

- ImThatGuy


That has nothing to do with your original post though lol.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
I forgot who tweeted it earlier but I think it was Jeremy White, he said Lehner was also a pretty big issue in the locker room.

Very negative always yelling, throwing teammates under the bus and complaining

- Shadman306



Sabres kept lehner to disrupt the lockerroom and continue to lose.

Now they are trying to win, and he's gone
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 10:39 AM ET

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Michael Grabner hasn't committed to any team yet, his agent still talking to several teams
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