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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
Not really related, but looking back the 2005 draft produced:

- Carey Price
- Tuukka Rask
- Jonathan Quick
- Ben Bishop

- eichiefs9

2007-2017 there’s been 3 goalies selected in the 1st or 2nd round that have panned our so far. Obviously 2017/2016 is still early but shows goalies take much longer to develop. Even if you get it right you’re waiting 4-5 years, sometimes more.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
I honestly think with goalies, you have to draft about 5 of them into your system and just hope that one hits eventually.
- Pete V

I think goalies are such a crap shoot you draft them in the later rounds and you’d probably have the same success as drafting them earlier.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
Doesn't matter, with Miller back there we really don't need a goalie.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
we had a couple of our own misses in that time in Halverson and Lafleur

what kills me is the team is loaded in net with prospects already

still baffling to me

- jimbro83


No doubt. Especially since there were some guys that were potential first rounders that were still on the board. I would have taken Wilde. And then I would have taken Thomas.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
we had a couple of our own misses in that time in Halverson and Lafleur

what kills me is the team is loaded in net with prospects already

still baffling to me

- jimbro83

If you were watching the draft when the camera zoomed in on their draft table after the pick all their faces were like "what the frank did we just do"
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
If you were watching the draft when the camera zoomed in on their draft table after the pick all their faces were like "what the frank did we just do"
- TPC

Shocking.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
If you were watching the draft when the camera zoomed in on their draft table after the pick all their faces were like "what the frank did we just do"
- TPC


I really hope we all have egg on our face in a few years with that pick. Somebody in the organization fell in love with him. There's no doubt about that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
I really hope we all have egg on our face in a few years with that pick. Somebody in the organization fell in love with him. There's no doubt about that.
- Pete V


I just don't get why the org. doesn't send Allaire out and say "this is my guy, its my pick", even if its complete bullpoop.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:54 PM ET
Lundqvist - 205
Halak - 271
Schneider - 26
Murray - 83
Ward - 25
Bobrovsky - Undrafted
Elliot - 291
Holtby - 93

Last years starting goalies in the division and where they were drafted.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Doesn't matter, with Miller back there we really don't need a goalie.
- mdw7413

Hank gonna play til he’s 50 anyways
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
Lundqvist - 205
Halak - 271
Schneider - 26
Murray - 83
Ward - 25
Bobrovsky - Undrafted
Elliot - 291
Holtby - 93

Last years starting goalies in the division and where they were drafted.

- nyrangers9479
if a goalie is so high or so beloved by the masses that do these things you can understand the pick, but it literally feels like the only ones that were was the NYR. It’s a very arrogant pick, like we’ll show you mfers!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
Hank gonna play til he’s 50 anyways
- Slimtj100


Might as well, probably when they win their next Cup
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
Might as well, probably when they win their next Cup
- mdw7413

Ok Matt Burton haha
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
Might as well, probably when they win their next Cup
- mdw7413

13 more years, eh. What's the difference. It's already been 24.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
Ok Matt Burton haha
- Slimtj100

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:00 PM ET
if a goalie is so high or so beloved by the masses that do these things you can understand the pick, but it literally feels like the only ones that were was the NYR. It’s a very arrogant pick, like we’ll show you mfers!
- Slimtj100

They passed on some good players to pick him, really makes me wonder if the plan was to take him at 48 but once it was traded they didn’t think he’d be there in the 3rd round. Still a dumb pick. Very aggravating.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:02 PM ET

- tomburton99



I was trying to come up with a Vin one but wasn’t gonna work. VDW I guess maybe
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
I like Komarov, slightly above average skilled pest we've needed
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ok Matt Burton haha
- Slimtj100

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
Lundqvist - 205
Halak - 271
Schneider - 26
Murray - 83
Ward - 25
Bobrovsky - Undrafted
Elliot - 291
Holtby - 93

Last years starting goalies in the division and where they were drafted.

- nyrangers9479


I agree with you, but if you look at the Atlantic, it's a bit of a different story. Four goalies drafted in first round and two in the Top 5: Luongo and Price, #4 and #5 overall respectively. Vasilevskiy at # 19 and Rask at #21 (or 22).
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
I like Komarov, slightly above average skilled pest we've needed
- KreiderBomb

Agreed. Smart acquisition. He’s better then Glass, but regardless even if he sucks he has intangibles
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 28 @ 3:11 PM ET


I was trying to come up with a Vin one but wasn’t gonna work. VDW I guess maybe

- Slimtj100

Nah it was funny. I approve.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:11 PM ET
I agree with you, but if you look at the Atlantic, it's a bit of a different story. Four goalies drafted in first round and two in the Top 5: Luongo and Price, #4 and #5 overall respectively. Vasilevskiy at # 19 and Rask at #21 (or 22).
- Pete V

It's just so weird, like if Olaf was the consensus top goalie in the draft class I am sure all of us would be semi ok with it. But to pick someone that high who wasn't even top 10 for some people. Just strange
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
Agreed. Smart acquisition. He’s better then Glass, but regardless even if he sucks he has intangibles
- Slimtj100

Never seen Komarov does this.



Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 3:14 PM ET
It's just so weird, like if Olaf was the consensus top goalie in the draft class I am sure all of us would be semi ok with it. But to pick someone that high who wasn't even top 10 for some people. Just strange
- TPC


Just to be clear, I didn't like the pick either.


I hope he makes us look stupid, however.
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