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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:10 PM ET
Maybe buffalo only does it because Wahlstrom was there
- Fattony1187


That could be true too
Lots of assumptions going on here

I’d have been p!ssed if we got pick11 & two 2nds

But Wahlstrom & two 2nds is MUCH more appealing

Doubt we will ever know the exact circumstances
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:14 PM ET
Wow , thank you.

So we would be on the hook for 6.5.

Maybe he trades ror for a couple young guys or draft picks.

I'd keep him, if he is the problem, then move him

- Boss34

ROR gets paid 8.5 million this year. 7.5 of it is a signing bones that he gets paid on july 1st. He will then earn 1 million during the season.

His cap hit is the average of the length of the contract 7.5.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:18 PM ET
That could be true too
Lots of assumptions going on here

I’d have been p!ssed if we got pick11 & two 2nds

But Wahlstrom & two 2nds is MUCH more appealing

Doubt we will ever know the exact circumstances

- jdfitz77


Whoever slipped would have bee fine with me. Dobson, Bouchard, Boqvist, Wahlstrom....any would have made me happy.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:18 PM ET
What is zadarov, girgo, compher and a 2nd worth?

Is it worth less then mcgin, (2) 2nds and 10th overall

Seams pretty even.
Hope they move ror for a player this year if at all

- Boss34


Tough to compare this way though
So much goes into determining “value” of a player(s)
So many circumstances factor in

Even now with O’Reilly
His trade value goes up after we pay the Bonus
His value also should go up when Tavares signs

However,
a team like Pitt that’s set at Center would never give us as much as StL would

Heck,
You even gotta figure that his value is greater due to a team like MTL bc their GM has to win NOW to save his job
If he wasn’t on the hot seat though,
O’Reilly would likely have less value to him

So many nuances

And some ppl act like making a trade should just be simple & happen overnight

Even GMTM said he was after Kane for years before he could finally get them to trade him
And that was probably only bc of the locker room stuff


I don’t fans appreciate just how complicated making a major trade can be
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:19 PM ET
What is the Sabres cap hit of they pay ror's bonus?

7.5?

- Boss34


Whatever bonus we pay goes towards our Cap
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:20 PM ET
http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/ryan-oreilly-6353/


In 2018-19, O'Reilly will earn a base salary of $1,000,000 and a signing bonus of $7,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,500,000.

- homiedclown


It’s more complicated than that
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:20 PM ET
ROR gets paid 8.5 million this year. 7.5 of it is a signing bones that he gets paid on july 1st. He will then earn 1 million during the season.

His cap hit is the average of the length of the contract 7.5.

- Mentalorgasm5

👍
Thank you
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:23 PM ET
Whoever slipped would have bee fine with me. Dobson, Bouchard, Boqvist, Wahlstrom....any would have made me happy.
- Lunaion


Of that group, i pretty much agree
Although i liked Wahlstrom & Dobson A LOT
They’re both Top5 guys imo
Still surprised they fell

Stupid Islanders

Dream trade at this point...
JT leaves
They give us Wahlstrom & Dobson for O’Reilly

Yeah, yeah... i know
That’s why i said “dream” trade
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:23 PM ET
Tough to compare this way though
So much goes into determining “value” of a player(s)
So many circumstances factor in

Even now with O’Reilly
His trade value goes up after we pay the Bonus
His value also should go up when Tavares signs

However,
a team like Pitt that’s set at Center would never give us as much as StL would

Heck,
You even gotta figure that his value is greater due to a team like MTL bc their GM has to win NOW to save his job
If he wasn’t on the hot seat though,
O’Reilly would likely have less value to him

So many nuances

And some ppl act like making a trade should just be simple & happen overnight

Even GMTM said he was after Kane for years before he could finally get them to trade him
And that was probably only bc of the locker room stuff


I don’t fans appreciate just how complicated making a major trade can be

- jdfitz77



I would rather get some young nhl ready players if we move ror.

Winning this year is important for this fan base.

I'm liking our chances of 85-95 points this year.

And yeah I'm a fan , maybe that says my opinion
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:25 PM ET
I would rather get some young nhl ready players if we move ror.

Winning this year is important for this fan base.

I'm liking our chances of 85-95 points this year.

And yeah I'm a fan , maybe that says my opinion

- Boss34


I hear ya
StL might be our best trade partner to get NHL ready (or at least close to ready) players back
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
Of that group, i pretty much agree
Although i liked Wahlstrom & Dobson A LOT
They’re both Top5 guys imo
Still surprised they fell

Stupid Islanders

Dream trade at this point...
JT leaves
They give us Wahlstrom & Dobson for O’Reilly

Yeah, yeah... i know
That’s why i said “dream” trade

- jdfitz77


I consider either one of them a fair trade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
I would rather get some young nhl ready players if we move ror.

Winning this year is important for this fan base.

I'm liking our chances of 85-95 points this year.

And yeah I'm a fan , maybe that says my opinion

- Boss34

ror for zucker, greenway and belpedio
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
I hear ya
StL might be our best trade partner to get NHL ready (or at least close to ready) players back

- jdfitz77



I still feel like Vancouver is a fit for ror.
Cap space with the sundins retiring.
Canadian market.
Young center on his way in/ could use a few years protection
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
I consider either one of them a fair trade.
- Lunaion


We’ll just have to see now
I’m thinking once we pay the bonus,
and JT chooses...
we should be able to get a really great return

But i was way off on what i thought we’d get for Kane...
so I’m just kind of in wait & see mode

Just hope I’m not disappointed again
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
ror for zucker, greenway and belpedio
- homiedclown


I’d be a fan of Zucker +
and even take back Ennis, if it makes the “+” we get better
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
Whatever bonus we pay goes towards our Cap
- jdfitz77


Not the easiest thing to dig up, but I don't think this is accurate.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
U need a hug man
So bitter

- jdfitz77

you are correct about this. I am a very bitter person.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:35 PM ET
you are correct about this. I am a very bitter person.
- BeadyEyedDouche

suck it beady
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:36 PM ET
I still feel like Vancouver is a fit for ror.
Cap space with the sundins retiring.
Canadian market.
Young center on his way in/ could use a few years protection

- Boss34


Makes sense
But idk what they’d give?
Can’t see them give up Hughes (Not a big fan anyways)
Juolevi is supposedly off limits, but he’s another LH guy anyways- so no thanks
There’s no way Boeser or Horvat is on the table

I like Gaudette, but he tops out as a 3C
Goldobin is ok, but he’s probably an average LW2 at best
Even if they give us both those guys & a 1st next year (I’m sure it would be lotto protected),
I don’t think that’s enough
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 26 @ 11:37 PM ET
We’ll just have to see now
I’m thinking once we pay the bonus,
and JT chooses...
we should be able to get a really great return

But i was way off on what i thought we’d get for Kane...
so I’m just kind of in wait & see mode

Just hope I’m not disappointed again

- jdfitz77


Maybe, but the draft is over, so things change. I just put his value around a #10 pick, and I didn't think anyone would pay it. Now, it's real players and cap implications.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:38 PM ET
ror for zucker, greenway and belpedio
- homiedclown


You had me at Zucker
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:40 PM ET
you are correct about this. I am a very bitter person.
- BeadyEyedDouche


The City of Buffalo was gonna paint Delaware Ave “blue & gold” in ‘06 or 07 if we made the Cup

Watch some of the highlotes from those 2 years

Then watch some highlights of Jack & Dahlin

Then get laid or drunk or both

This team will still have its holes...
but it’ll put a damn smile on your face at least
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:41 PM ET
Maybe, but the draft is over, so things change. I just put his value around a #10 pick, and I didn't think anyone would pay it. Now, it's real players and cap implications.
- Lunaion


I guess we will just have to wait

Still won’t be surprised if O’Reilly doesn’t get moved though
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:41 PM ET
ror for zucker, greenway and belpedio
- homiedclown

Which one of those was a 6th?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:44 PM ET
Which one of those was a 6th?
- sbroads24

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