Unless he’s willing to sign a deal for no more than 3 years (which is extremely unlikely) no thanks.

Also keep in mind that the rumor came from Ek, so it’s about as valid as the stories you hear about Elvis Presley still being alive and working at a Winn-Dixie in Tupelo, MS
- BiggE

Don't want JvR. Just not a fan and not a fan at the cost will probably be.

Here is my ideas:
- Sign Antoine Roussel to a 2-3 year deal around 2.5-3 million a season. Brings in a solid PK guy and also brings some grit and skating to help get in on the forecheck.

- Check price for Ian Cole and Calvin De Haan. If I can get one signed then i look to move Gudas. Edmonton seems like a likely destination. Can I get Anton Slepyshev for Gudas and Weal? Slepyshev has good size and skills. just hasn't produced. Didn't seem to get a lot of chances with Edmonton. Could he provide more in a 3rd line role.

- Check in Lehner as an upgrade to Neuvirth.

Biggest thing is I need to get a solid PK type and better role players unless something unexpected falls into your lap.

Repost from last thread. This is annoying me

hey bill or anyone, I remember reading Ustimenko's mom or dad or something died earlier in the season. Does anyone else recall this? A Flyers prospect definitely had to take time away from the game because of the death of someone close. Forget who it was for sure though

It was a number of months ago

Anyone?

An all left handed defense and a penalty machine, great.

Depending on the cost, I'm not opposed to it...which means I'm probably opposed to it.
- jmatchett383

Honestly (and this wont be popular), I dont see a 3C worth the contract cost and blocking of future players.

I'd personally rather move G back to 1C, sign Neal as 1LW and we should be set as far as the top 3 lines. Then as Frost looks to make the jump we can move G back to 1W and drop Neal to 2LW.

Added bonus we get some grit and size and piss off Pittsburgh fans.

Allen and Elliott paired well as a tandem in St Louis so I see it as a bit more than a minor upgrade. At some point you will need to move a pick or 2 to upgrade the team. Going from Neuvirth to Allen could give you a better shot to make the playoffs and perhaps win a round.

Re Myers:
If Winnipeg wants to keep Trouba, he won’t come cheap. They will need to move salary and teams know it. I don’t think anyone is parting with a 1st for Tyler Myers with one year left on his deal at 5.5 million. He’s basically a one year rental and he’s not a top pair guy. However he’s better than Gudas and should help the PK.
- BiggE

Shouldn't be giving up 2nd round picks for short term moves in my opinion.

I bet they could get Duclair on the cheap. How many teams will this be in soon to be 6 seasons? 4?

He is a talented kid but by many accounts he is lazy and disinterested.

The smoke is definitely thick on this dude.
- MBFlyerfan

Duclair has been suggested as an upgrade over Kuhnhackl. So there you go.

Honestly (and this wont be popular), I dont see a 3C worth the contract cost and blocking of future players.

I'd personally rather move G back to 1C, sign Neal as 1LW and we should be set as far as the top 3 lines. Then as Frost looks to make the jump we can move G back to 1W and drop Neal to 2LW.

Added bonus we get some grit and size and piss off Pittsburgh fans.
- juiced

So Patrick is our 3C for the next 2 years, and we're moving Giroux back to C after he just had his best statistical season?

Also, where are we getting the grit?

I bet they could get Duclair on the cheap. How many teams will this be in soon to be 6 seasons? 4?

He is a talented kid but by many accounts he is lazy and disinterested.

The smoke is definitely thick on this dude.
- MBFlyerfan

Go with the Ryan Wilson approach and base it all on charts and be charitable for these poor misused kids.

So Patrick is our 3C for the next 2 years, and we're moving Giroux back to C after he just had his best statistical season?

Also, where are we getting the grit?
- jmatchett383

Like I said...it wouldn't be embraced by most. I see it as a more cost effective stop gap as we wait for a 3C to emerge from within.

I get Claude had his best year.....but I also think a line of Neal-Giroux-TK would stomp it too. Then we'd have Weal-Coots-Jake and Lindbolm-Patrick-Simmonds.

Neal plays with Grit ... im not sure how much you got to watch him during his time in Pitts, Nashville and Vegas. He isnt a glove dropper but he's physical and heavy.

I like this a lot. Not completely sold on Myers but I like the fact that you steered away from JVR, ROR and any other albatross out there...

Neal is a scumbag.

Like I said...it wouldn't be embraced by most. I see it as a more cost effective stop gap as we wait for a 3C to emerge from within.

I get Claude had his best year.....but I also think a line of Neal-Giroux-TK would stomp it too. Then we'd have Weal-Coots-Jake and Lindbolm-Patrick-Simmonds.

Neal plays with Grit ... im not sure how much you got to watch him during his time in Pitts, Nashville and Vegas. He isnt a glove dropper but he's physical and heavy.
- juiced

I watched probably 85% of Neal's games in Pittsburgh, and he's dirty but not "gritty." He's actually passive for his size, IMO. He'll lay a cheap shot, but he's not what I'd call a gritty/sandpaper guy.

Why would a guy like Riley Nash be blocking anyone? Keep G at center, Coots is 1C, Patrick is 2C, Nash/UFA is 3C. Once Frost is ready, he becomes your 3C and you have a very good 4C in Nash/UFA who can slide up for injuries.

Neal is a scumbag.
- Feanor

Also this

If they can't find a center in free agency I just really want no parts of Filppula back, that's all I ask.

Sharks decline qualifying offer to DeMelo. Any interest? Even as a depth guy? RHD.
- arichardson22

Yes definitely if we can move gudas

[quote=jmatchett383]I watched probably 85% of Neal's games in Pittsburgh, and he's dirty but not "gritty." He's actually passive for his size, IMO. He'll lay a cheap shot, but he's not what I'd call a gritty/sandpaper guy.

Why would a guy like Riley Nash be blocking anyone? Keep G at center, Coots is 1C, Patrick is 2C, Nash/UFA is 3C. Once Frost is ready, he becomes your 3C and you have a very good 4C in Nash/UFA who can slide up for injuries.

Its also an option but at about a similar cost. Some like Coke, some like Pepsi...

I just feel we'd get more total TEAM offense out of a top line LW with center adjustments...then a mid grade center on the 3rd line.

I do agree Neal is a stick foul and borderline player, but he isnt a Marchand or Burrows level one... more a Malkin level one.

If they can't find a center in free agency I just really want no parts of Filppula back, that's all I ask.
- Ftown19125

I have maintained that Hextall would bring him back on a cheap short term deal based on his comments after the season ended. Unless he was playing through an injury which has been unreported to date, I don't see how in anyway he doesn't make the team worse, let alone better.

Shouldn't be giving up 2nd round picks for short term moves in my opinion.
- MJL

how are you defining a short term move?

[quote=jmatchett383]I watched probably 85% of Neal's games in Pittsburgh, and he's dirty but not "gritty." He's actually passive for his size, IMO. He'll lay a cheap shot, but he's not what I'd call a gritty/sandpaper guy.

Why would a guy like Riley Nash be blocking anyone? Keep G at center, Coots is 1C, Patrick is 2C, Nash/UFA is 3C. Once Frost is ready, he becomes your 3C and you have a very good 4C in Nash/UFA who can slide up for injuries.

Riley Nash is the perfect 3c for us right now. Only 29 so a few years younger than Fip plus he would cost less. Fip might take less than his $5mil from last year but Nash could be had for less.

I agree with Neal being more dirty than gritty. Never liked his game but he was a Penguin.

I watched probably 85% of Neal's games in Pittsburgh, and he's dirty but not "gritty." He's actually passive for his size, IMO. He'll lay a cheap shot, but he's not what I'd call a gritty/sandpaper guy.

Why would a guy like Riley Nash be blocking anyone? Keep G at center, Coots is 1C, Patrick is 2C, Nash/UFA is 3C. Once Frost is ready, he becomes your 3C and you have a very good 4C in Nash/UFA who can slide up for injuries.




Also this
- jmatchett383

Nash also has played wing so you could slide him to 3rd line wing once your in house option is ready

Looking at the depth chart... https://www.eliteprospect...elphia-flyers/depth-chart

There's a lot of talk about which UFA/RFA to go after. Before trading assets or spending cap space. Which of the prospects has a legit chance of making the team next year? None of this years draft guys are ready (O`Brien or Farabee may have the skill and/or hockey HQ to jump, but not physically).

Center... Does Frost or other have a good chance?

LW... I assume Lindblom is here to stay in the NHL. Other?

RW... I know some people are high on NAK. But, I think he might be a elite AHL'er. Still early at 22, but he's slow and smallish for the NHL... I could be wrong.

Defense... A lot has been written about this... Hagg made the jump. Sanheim is probably there too. Sounds like Morin would have been there without injury. Is Myers ready? (Manning is not on the depth chart, did I miss something?)

Goalie... I really don't care. Just waiting until Hart is ready... I hope he doesn't disappoint. Is Lyon ready for the number 2 spot, or does he need more constant play? IF yes, we can trade Neuvirth without spending a lot on his replacement.

Looking at the depth chart... https://www.eliteprospect...elphia-flyers/depth-chart

There's a lot of talk about which UFA/RFA to go after. Before trading assets or spending cap space. Which of the prospects has a legit chance of making the team next year? None of this years draft guys are ready (O`Brien or Farabee may have the skill and/or hockey HQ to jump, but not physically).

Center... Does Frost or other have a good chance?

LW... I assume Lindblom is here to stay in the NHL. Other?

RW... I know some people are high on NAK. But, I think he might be a elite AHL'er. Still early at 22, but he's slow and smallish for the NHL... I could be wrong.

Defense... A lot has been written about this... Hagg made the jump. Sanheim is probably there too. Sounds like Morin would have been there without injury. Is Myers ready? (Manning is not on the depth chart, did I miss something?)

Goalie... I really don't care. Just waiting until Hart is ready... I hope he doesn't disappoint. Is Lyon ready for the number 2 spot, or does he need more constant play? IF yes, we can trade Neuvirth without spending a lot on his replacement.
- leon neon

I think Vorobyev and Vecchione both have a shot of making it, as long as they don't pick up another center.

agreed, Myers should be the target, he could be priced right.

On another note you have posted numerous, well thought out posts. In fact they might be to well thought out. It is possible you need Hockey Buzz Rehab. I think we should ask Bill if he provides any type of insurance to the posters.
- wcorvette

LOL

Looking at the depth chart... https://www.eliteprospect...elphia-flyers/depth-chart

There's a lot of talk about which UFA/RFA to go after. Before trading assets or spending cap space. Which of the prospects has a legit chance of making the team next year? None of this years draft guys are ready (O`Brien or Farabee may have the skill and/or hockey HQ to jump, but not physically).

Center... Does Frost or other have a good chance?

LW... I assume Lindblom is here to stay in the NHL. Other?

RW... I know some people are high on NAK. But, I think he might be a elite AHL'er. Still early at 22, but he's slow and smallish for the NHL... I could be wrong.

Defense... A lot has been written about this... Hagg made the jump. Sanheim is probably there too. Sounds like Morin would have been there without injury. Is Myers ready? (Manning is not on the depth chart, did I miss something?)

Goalie... I really don't care. Just waiting until Hart is ready... I hope he doesn't disappoint. Is Lyon ready for the number 2 spot, or does he need more constant play? IF yes, we can trade Neuvirth without spending a lot on his replacement.
- leon neon

I think Frost is going to be a good one, but I don't see him making the jump just yet. He still needs to put on some muscle. And I also don't see him as a 3C.

I think Vorobyev and Vecchione both have a shot of making it, as long as they don't pick up another center.
- Ftown19125

I tend to agree. Both have 50-60 games in the AHL. We don't have a strong chance of a cup next year... give the kids a shot and experience. Let them make their mistakes on a down season. How much damage can they do at 3C?

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