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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs in on Tavares, but where to they go if Plan A falls through?
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Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:07 PM ET
JT would be great but if not, flip off and go after Stastny. Forget Bozak and forget Thornton.

If you can't land a center ok fine, try and get Skinner then and move Nylander to center and bring Skinner in for the wing.

Still need to figure something out on defence too, though not adverse to adding Orpik on a one year cheaper deal to shore up the 5-6 with a stay at home physical vet. Upgraded Polak role really.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:10 PM ET
JT would be great but if not, flip off and go after Stastny. Forget Bozak and forget Thornton.

If you can't land a center ok fine, try and get Skinner then and move Nylander to center and bring Skinner in for the wing.

Still need to figure something out on defence too, though not adverse to adding Orpik on a one year cheaper deal to shore up the 5-6 with a stay at home physical vet. Upgraded Polak role really.

- Roadrunner75


Not a fan of adding Stastny at all, he will be getting $$$.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:11 PM ET
Not a fan of adding Stastny at all, he will be getting $$$.
- Blazed


And JT isn't??


Better than Bozak last season. More goals and assists, and a better FOW% too.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:22 PM ET
And JT isn't??


Better than Bozak last season. More goals and assists, and a better FOW% too.

- Roadrunner75


Stastny had 52 points at 32. Tavares had 84 at 27. Not a good comparison.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:24 PM ET
And JT isn't??


Better than Bozak last season. More goals and assists, and a better FOW% too.

- Roadrunner75


I'd say the vast majority are ready to move on from Bozak, unwilling to sign that age/production long term at this point, also not a good selling point for your Stastny argument.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:07 AM ET
Did you just say trade nylander for riostolanein? and we have to add?

No thanks

- burn

The future of he NHL lies with Rasmi. Sabres just drafted Rasmus Dahlin. They may be willing to give up Rasmus Ristolainen. Together with Rasmus Sandin, those two Rasmi could be a potent pairing, that pulls Rasmus Dahlin to the team, and complete the defensive Rasmus trifecta.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:09 AM ET
The news that Tavares is meeting with the Bruins might be good for the Leafs. Means his camp is just trying to get them to pony up on the sponsorships.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:32 AM ET
The news that Tavares is meeting with the Bruins might be good for the Leafs. Means his camp is just trying to get them to pony up on the sponsorships.
- Feeling Glucky?

Or bad news because they'll kick your ass in the playoffs?
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:42 AM ET
Or bad news because they'll kick your ass in the playoffs?
- LeftCoaster


Lies. I'm fairly confident this has never happened, let alone twice in the last several years.

I know the Leafs didn't win the cup, but can't seem to remember why not. Probably they were too good for the cup. Now that we're likely losing JVR and teh Bozek, we should be slightly less good, so they will be willing to win.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 12:47 AM ET
Lies. I'm fairly confident this has never happened, let alone twice in the last several years.

I know the Leafs didn't win the cup, but can't seem to remember why not. Probably they were too good for the cup. Now that we're likely losing JVR and teh Bozek, we should be slightly less good, so they will be willing to win.

- Thecakeisalie

Need to fix the defense first!!
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 25 @ 12:49 AM ET
Need to fix the defense first!!
- LeftCoaster



How many 1st round picks does it take to pry Tanev out of Vancouver? I’ll willing to go as high as all.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:50 AM ET
Need to fix the defense first!!
- LeftCoaster


Yeah, we'll see what Dubust does to upgrade.

Maybe we'll get some improvement from within by some of our prospects, but I'm not sure who would be ready by next year, and even if someone like Liljegren or Sandin make the team, you can't pin all your hopes on a rookie to carry your defense.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 25 @ 12:53 AM ET
Yeah, we'll see what Dubust does to upgrade.

Maybe we'll get some improvement from within by some of our prospects, but I'm not sure who would be ready by next year, and even if someone like Liljegren or Sandin make the team, you can't pin all your hopes on a rookie to carry your defense.

- Thecakeisalie



Someone tell Garf that.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:53 AM ET
Or bad news because they'll kick your ass in the playoffs?
- LeftCoaster

What do Nucks fans know about that?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:54 AM ET
Need to fix the defense first!!
- LeftCoaster

Adding forward assets for nothing but cap helps that. Especially when that forward is a possession beast like Tavares.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 25 @ 1:02 AM ET
Who cares what you think? What’s important is what UG thinks. If he likes him, then don’t trade for him.
- Steven_Seagull


I'll speak on that idiots behalf. He really really likes Faulk.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 25 @ 1:03 AM ET


Trade Bill Ny for Ristolainen.

What a terrible idea that is.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:07 AM ET
What do Nucks fans know about that?
- Feeling Glucky?

About what?

In the past ten seasons the Canucks have won 30 games in the playoffs, how many do the Leafs have

Edit: I just checked, the Leafs have won 8 games in the playoffs over the past ten seasons.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:13 AM ET
How many 1st round picks does it take to pry Tanev out of Vancouver? I’ll willing to go as high as all.
- Steven_Seagull

I'd be willing to accepts two second round picks personally, can you make it happen?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 1:14 AM ET
Adding forward assets for nothing but cap helps that. Especially when that forward is a possession beast like Tavares.
- Feeling Glucky?

It would be a nice addition for sure!!
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 25 @ 1:42 AM ET
Hate to break it to you, but it doesn't work like that. Taxes are based on residency, not the address from which you get paid. PLUS, even if it did work that way, the NHL is based in New York, which has very high taxes so this would be very bad for the players.
- TrashPanda


Actually taxes are partially residency and also where you earn the income. Players get paid in the state they played in. It's why some states have an "entertainment" tax for athletes and performers, etc.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:51 AM ET
The love for Kapanen together with the readiness to trade Willie for whatever is so Joe From The Bridge Leaf fan insanity. I can't wait till Dubas locks up Nylander so I don't have to read this stuff anymore. And I like Kap, but c'mon...
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:52 AM ET
Actually taxes are partially residency and also where you earn the income. Players get paid in the state they played in. It's why some states have an "entertainment" tax for athletes and performers, etc.
- Aaron_85


Bottom line, teams located in cities that have no state tax can offer their players more net income. End of story. The fact that people are still trying to deny this is incredible.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 25 @ 1:55 AM ET
The love for Kapanen together with the readiness to trade Willie for whatever is so Joe From The Bridge Leaf fan insanity. I can't wait till Dubas locks up Nylander so I don't have to read this stuff anymore. And I like Kap, but c'mon...
- Zezel


If the Leafs miraculously sign Tavares, Nylander is on the block for help on D immediately. The Leafs need a legit #1 D (at least another top pairing D) and Nylander is the ticket to get that. Maybe you'd keep Nylander for 1 more year to inflate his numbers by playing beside Tavares, but sooner or later, you'd move Nylander to get help on D to balance the team.

If you look at is as: Nylander for Tavares + #1 D, it's a no-brainer.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:59 AM ET
If the Leafs miraculously sign Tavares, Nylander is on the block for help on D immediately. The Leafs need a legit #1 D (at least another top pairing D) and Nylander is the ticket to get that. Maybe you'd keep Nylander for 1 more year to inflate his numbers by playing beside Tavares, but sooner or later, you'd move Nylander to get help on D to balance the team.

If you look at is as: Nylander for Tavares + #1 D, it's a no-brainer.

- Unholy_Goalie

None of us have brains!! It's so great you can tell us how it is!
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