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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs in on Tavares, but where to they go if Plan A falls through?
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:08 PM ET
The answer is and always has been Bozak.

4x5 should get it done

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Wrong



A: teh bozek
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:09 PM ET
[quote=jribout]
True that.... just cannot pay him too much for too long... better to take a step back this year and not be handcuffed financially in 2-3 years
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:10 PM ET
Risto makes no sense for the leafs. Especially for Nylander
- ClarksonDavid


He's got the tools, just needs the focus. Get him to a contender and put him with some talent and he'll blossom. A right shot with a bit of an edge. Nylander gets allot of favourable press for a 20 goal scorer that plays on the wing with Austin Matthews. He's soft and when Matthews isn't with him, the offense dries up. It's easier to get wingers then defensemen or centres. Can't get better without bold moves. It'll just be the same team as last year, if we don't make a master stroke of a move.
BuzzKiller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:12 PM ET
Salary cap should be based on income after taxes. What a nightmare trades would become
- jribout

Owners should each give the league $79.5 million at the start of the year, league pays the players out of one central state players pay income tax based on that state levels the playing field, owners settle up their account at the end of the year getting money back or paying for overages (ltir)
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:12 PM ET
Wrong



A: teh bozek

- Tumbleweed


Guy is flat money in shootouts
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 24 @ 10:13 PM ET
Best to forget about Tavares. Too expensive with the young guns needing to get paid.
Might look good for 3 or 4 years, but by year 4 or 5, it'll be a boat anchor of a contract. Having Matthews at 1 and Kadri at 2 is a decent top 2 lines. If Bozak could sign for 3 years at $10 million total, it's a gain. Lots of 4th line veterans out there, so it'll shore up the centre spot. Maybe some overtures toward Buffalo could put the Nylander brothers together. Rasmus Ristolainen should be the target. If you have to throw in a plug like Connor Carrack to get it done, then do so.

- PrinceLH


With the way the cap is expected to go up a Tavares deal is never going to look bad.

Unless Bozak is willing to sign a one year deal for fourth line money it's better for both parties for him to sign somewhere else.

Let's not give Buffalo anything, OK? Nylander is going to be a star in the league, I'd rather have him on our roster.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
Owners should each give the league $79.5 million at the start of the year, league pays the players out of one central state players pay income tax based on that state levels the playing field, owners settle up their account at the end of the year getting money back or paying for overages (ltir)
- BuzzKiller


Hate to break it to you, but it doesn't work like that. Taxes are based on residency, not the address from which you get paid. PLUS, even if it did work that way, the NHL is based in New York, which has very high taxes so this would be very bad for the players.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
He's got the tools, just needs the focus. Get him to a contender and put him with some talent and he'll blossom. A right shot with a bit of an edge. Nylander gets allot of favourable press for a 20 goal scorer that plays on the wing with Austin Matthews. He's soft and when Matthews isn't with him, the offense dries up. It's easier to get wingers then defensemen or centres. Can't get better without bold moves. It'll just be the same team as last year, if we don't make a master stroke of a move.
- PrinceLH


Good chance Nylander plays center in Bozak's sheltered secondary offensive role. There have been articles that have broke down his play at center and while he's not ready for bigger matchups he plays strongly against weaker competition.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
Look I will admit that even as a fan of Bozie I get what you're saying.

But I looked around both in house and around the league and am having a hard time finding a better option.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Agreed there isn't a lot of options.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:21 PM ET
Good chance Nylander plays center in Bozak's sheltered secondary offensive role. There have been articles that have broke down his play at center and while he's not ready for bigger matchups he plays strongly against weaker competition.
- Blazed


So first line money for 3rd line minutes. Defense needs fixing.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:21 PM ET
Did you just say trade nylander for riostolanein? and we have to add?

No thanks

- burn


But that way the Sabres will finally have a Nylander that plays in the NHL
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:23 PM ET
Wrong



A: teh bozek

- Tumbleweed


yes
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
I’d rather Pesce but the Canes won’t (well, at least shouldn’t) trade him.
- Steven_Seagull

I think you might be right... Debate over.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
So first line money for 3rd line minutes. Defense needs fixing.
- PrinceLH


Bozak was making 4.25 in the same role. A little more to have three lines with dynamic offensive talent.

A 22 year old with essentially two full NHL seasons matches or outscored Ryan O'Rielly, Logan Couture, Matt Duchene, Jordan Eberle, Mike Hoffman, Ryan Johansen, Tyler Johnson, Paul Stastny etc etc.

I'd be pretty comfortable with that for sure.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Bozak was making 4.25 in the same role. A little more to have three lines with dynamic offensive talent.

A 22 year old with essentially two full NHL seasons matches or outscored Ryan O'Rielly, Logan Couture, Matt Duchene, Jordan Eberle, Mike Hoffman, Ryan Johansen, Tyler Johnson, Paul Stastny etc etc.

I'd be pretty comfortable with that for sure.

- Blazed



That’s just because he plays with Matthews.


(even though he only played half the season with Matthews the first year, and Matthews missed 20 games last year...)
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Bozak was making 4.25 in the same role. A little more to have three lines with dynamic offensive talent.

A 22 year old with essentially two full NHL seasons matches or outscored Ryan O'Rielly, Logan Couture, Matt Duchene, Jordan Eberle, Mike Hoffman, Ryan Johansen, Tyler Johnson, Paul Stastny etc etc.

I'd be pretty comfortable with that for sure.

- Blazed

Nylander at C, is not the worst idea. Only issue with it, is that it leaves Matthews to play with Hyman and Brown.


Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Nylander at C, is not the worst idea. Only issue with it, is that it leaves Matthews to play with Hyman and Brown.
- PatC80



Or Kapanen. Or Marner. Or Johnsson plays LW and Hyman plays RW. Or Jagr.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:34 PM ET
Or Kapanen. Or Marner. Or Johnsson plays LW and Hyman plays RW. Or Jagr.
- Steven_Seagull

Jagr would fit in nicely..

Could always trade with Carolina for Victor Rask
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
But that way the Sabres will finally have a Nylander that plays in the NHL
- TheMussel



Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:37 PM ET
But that way the Sabres will finally have a Nylander that plays in the NHL
- TheMussel



How did I miss this?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
Nylander at C, is not the worst idea. Only issue with it, is that it leaves Matthews to play with Hyman and Brown.
- PatC80

Or Mitchell.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
That’s just because he plays with Matthews.


(even though he only played half the season with Matthews the first year, and Matthews missed 20 games last year...)

- Steven_Seagull


and it's not like other players don't get to play with good players. Would Nylander post 60+ next year at 3C, I doubt it. Still has dynamic offensive talent and can begin to grow and develop into the role.
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
Nylander at C, is not the worst idea. Only issue with it, is that it leaves Matthews to play with Hyman and Brown.
- PatC80


On paper I like Hyman-Matthews-Kapanen.

Not opposed to caving and giving Matthews Marner which would be great to watch. Hurts the overall depth but I think Marleau-Kadri-Kapanen could be a fun defensive line. Talk about speed on those wings.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:50 PM ET
On paper I like Hyman-Matthews-Kapanen.

Not opposed to caving and giving Matthews Marner which would be great to watch. Hurts the overall depth but I think Marleau-Kadri-Kapanen could be a fun defensive line. Talk about speed on those wings.

- Blazed

Hyman Matthews Marner
Marleau Kadri Brown
Johnsson Nylander Kapanen
Grundstrom teh bozek Ufa like Tim Schaller.

Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
Hyman Matthews Marner
Marleau Kadri Brown
Johnsson Nylander Kapanen
Grundstrom teh bozek Ufa like Tim Schaller.

- PatC80


It's not that I don't dislike it because I really like the third line. I wasn't a big fan of Brown on the Kadri line. He's a good jobber but they really didn't seem to have an offensive potency together.
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