Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I think his review of the 3-4th round defensemen is stupid. Yeah, most defensemen at that point of the draft of course don’t have game breaking ability. You are hoping that 1-2 turn out to be solid NHLers.
Getting a four pick trade up and a goalie for the 39th and 48th pick is where the Rangers didn’t get the value they should have.
I think the Rangers got some damn good prospects with this draft. Just didn’t think they got all of the value they could.
If this goalie turns out to be a stud, maybe we will see it different. - Pete V . Yea the 2nd rd debacle ruined this whole draft for me. No one can justify the goalie pick and to have lost the other in a trade is ok, but for god sakes don’t have a complete brain fart the way they did with the other pick. That needed to be a forward with upside, not a goalie with upside. It’s not even the player to me that I’m upset about, it’s the position that I have an issue with using it for. I really can’t stand it how that rd played out. And I’m not a reactor to a draft one way or the other. It just seemed like they had no idea what they were doing in that moment. It’s like drafting a Kicker in fantasy football to early
I also still wonder do they even scout in Canada? They don’t draft Canadian players. I don’t get it |
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TommyGTrain
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Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll Joined: 05.19.2017
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Still don't understand the unhinging of many here over the 39th pick.
We had 10 picks --- TEN, and so many are upset over ONE of them. Thats 10% of the draft by professionals you guys take issue with?
We got 3 solid players in first round. If we hit on even 2 of the remaining players, that makes it an OUTSTANDING draft! This whole notion of: "well we could have done better" ----- according to whom exactly? Some guy in his basement who never traveled to Europe to see teenagers , yes teenagers who aren't even done growing yet play hockey? Some guy that makes lists up? Come on!
Lets wait at least 2 years before we even consider passing judgement. Then you throw Gorton to the wolves if they all can't develop into professional players. GOODNESS!!
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I so hope that Miller will be our top pairing guy down the road, hitting all that potential that every single expert says he has. And everyone who says it was so awful we gave a 2nd to move down to take him can go (frank) off. |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I so hope that Miller will be our top pairing guy down the road, hitting all that potential that every single expert says he has. And everyone who says it was so awful we gave a 2nd to move down to take him can go (frank) off. - mdw7413
I hope he turns into a poor man's Brent Burns. A rover than can score and recover due to him being a great skater. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I hope he turns into a poor man's Brent Burns. A rover than can score and recover due to him being a great skater. - tomburton99
Gonna make Burns look like he is skating in glue |
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MiloslavHorava
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 02.12.2016
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Olaf Lindbom:
The Rangers said he was the HIGHEST rated goalie on THEIR draft board.
Unless anyone on here can confirm he will not have an NHL career, lets just all stop with the insanity and just like the draft last year, hold off judging until these KIDS... they are KID get a chance. There are also late bloomers and guys who continue to prove well into their mid twenties.
The most talented player at 18yrs old isn't always still the most talented at 25. |
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dman78
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 12.28.2011
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Still don't understand the unhinging of many here over the 39th pick.
We had 10 picks --- TEN, and so many are upset over ONE of them. Thats 10% of the draft by professionals you guys take issue with?
We got 3 solid players in first round. If we hit on even 2 of the remaining players, that makes it an OUTSTANDING draft! This whole notion of: "well we could have done better" ----- according to whom exactly? Some guy in his basement who never traveled to Europe to see teenagers , yes teenagers who aren't even done growing yet play hockey? Some guy that makes lists up? Come on!
Lets wait at least 2 years before we even consider passing judgement. Then you throw Gorton to the wolves if they all can't develop into professional players. GOODNESS!! - TommyGTrain
Can we throw Sather and Clark to the wolves now at least? |
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Couldn’t have said it better, 100% how I feel, I don’t think we did a great job filming organizational holes, did we get talented prospects yes but not enough of them where we needed, to me Gorton didn’t do Quinn too many favors with this draft - KreiderBomb
You always seemed like the type to film organizational holes. |
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dman78
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 12.28.2011
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Olaf Lindbom:
The Rangers said he was the HIGHEST rated goalie on THEIR draft board.
Unless anyone on here can confirm he will not have an NHL career, lets just all stop with the insanity and just like the draft last year, hold off judging until these KIDS... they are KID get a chance. There are also late bloomers and guys who continue to prove well into their mid twenties.
The most talented player at 18yrs old isn't always still the most talented at 25. - MiloslavHorava
The problem is two of the 3 people in charge of rebuilding this franchise are fossils that have repeatedly shown they lack the ability to pick talent and try to be cute with the picks they make to prove how much smarter they are then everyone else. Then it blows up in their faces with no consequences and it's us the fans that havery to suffer for it. |
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Olaf Lindbom:
The Rangers said he was the HIGHEST rated goalie on THEIR draft board.
Unless anyone on here can confirm he will not have an NHL career, lets just all stop with the insanity and just like the draft last year, hold off judging until these KIDS... they are KID get a chance. There are also late bloomers and guys who continue to prove well into their mid twenties.
The most talented player at 18yrs old isn't always still the most talented at 25. - MiloslavHorava
It's not the player, it's where the player was picked in relationship to the expectations and likelihood he would go. In addition, trading the second round pick rather than a third to move up four spots took away a chance to grab another asset there.
If they had grabbed one of Ryan McLeod, Bode Wilde, Jack Drury, Ruslan Ishakov, Jonathan Tychonick, Kirill Marchenko, Adam Ginning, Akil Thomas, Calen Addison, Jacob Olofsson, Filip Hallander, David Gustafsson or Jacob Olofsson, especially Thomas or Tychonick, at 39 and then followed by Lindbom at 48, some might be unhappy but few would be as annoyed as they are now. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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It's not the player, it's where the player was picked in relationship to the expectations and likelihood he would go. In addition, trading the second round pick rather than a third to move up four spots took away a chance to grab another asset there.
If they had grabbed one of Ryan McLeod, Bode Wilde, Jack Drury, Ruslan Ishakov, Jonathan Tychonick, Kirill Marchenko, Adam Ginning, Akil Thomas, Calen Addison, Jacob Olofsson, Filip Hallander, David Gustafsson or Jacob Olofsson, especially Thomas or Tychonick, at 39 and then followed by Lindbom at 48, some might be unhappy but few would be as annoyed as they are now. - airjan23
So if Miller turned into a fantastic player with another team and we found out the Rangers nixed a deal to get him by adding a 2nd, that would be brought up everyday for years to come.
We have no idea why the 2nd was added. Maybe one of the 4 teams before the 26 was going to take him. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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I think his review of the 3-4th round defensemen is stupid. Yeah, most defensemen at that point of the draft of course don’t have game breaking ability. You are hoping that 1-2 turn out to be solid NHLers.
Getting a four pick trade up and a goalie for the 39th and 48th pick is where the Rangers didn’t get the value they should have.
I think the Rangers got some damn good prospects with this draft. Just didn’t think they got all of the value they could.
If this goalie turns out to be a stud, maybe we will see it different. - Pete V
Value is a good barometer to go by, but unfortunately for us, we have to wait and see if Gorton and Co. were correct. I would've loved to see more dynamic forwards taken, but having a plethora of food young dmen isn't anything to sneeze at. Just look at Nashville. The young/veteren forwards have plenty of upside. Others will come one way or another.
Patience Laddys!
I would also like the Old Guard to fuxing retire already as well.
Burton...sorry if I was a Richard before, but you do deserve it sometimes.
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Still don't understand the unhinging of many here over the 39th pick.
We had 10 picks --- TEN, and so many are upset over ONE of them. Thats 10% of the draft by professionals you guys take issue with?
We got 3 solid players in first round. If we hit on even 2 of the remaining players, that makes it an OUTSTANDING draft! This whole notion of: "well we could have done better" ----- according to whom exactly? Some guy in his basement who never traveled to Europe to see teenagers , yes teenagers who aren't even done growing yet play hockey? Some guy that makes lists up? Come on!
Lets wait at least 2 years before we even consider passing judgement. Then you throw Gorton to the wolves if they all can't develop into professional players. GOODNESS!! - TommyGTrain
Hallelujah TG Train! Preschool on brotha. I'm with ya!!!
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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It's not the player, it's where the player was picked in relationship to the expectations and likelihood he would go. In addition, trading the second round pick rather than a third to move up four spots took away a chance to grab another asset there.
If they had grabbed one of Ryan McLeod, Bode Wilde, Jack Drury, Ruslan Ishakov, Jonathan Tychonick, Kirill Marchenko, Adam Ginning, Akil Thomas, Calen Addison, Jacob Olofsson, Filip Hallander, David Gustafsson or Jacob Olofsson, especially Thomas or Tychonick, at 39 and then followed by Lindbom at 48, some might be unhappy but few would be as annoyed as they are now. - airjan23
Sorry Jan, but the " where he was picked " thing only goes so far. IF he's Nyrs topped ranked goalie by. Head and shoulders, by Gorton's account, then you can't take issue with taking the " best" goalie in the draft at 39. Whether nor not Gorton and the Dino Duo is correct is another argument all together, and WE simply don't have their reasoning for their opinion of Olaf.
Gorton has been at the Helm for two drafts this far. Last year seems to have been a success. Too much too ask to give him a little credit? |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Value is a good barometer to go by, but unfortunately for us, we have to wait and see if Gorton and Co. were correct. I would've loved to see more dynamic forwards taken, but having a plethora of food young dmen isn't anything to sneeze at. Just look at Nashville. The young/veteren forwards have plenty of upside. Others will come one way or another.
Patience Laddys!
I would also like the Old Guard to fuxing retire already as well.
Burton...sorry if I was a Richard before, but you do deserve it sometimes. - rrentz
Nah, I'm good. You do you and I'll fact check. It's worked for thus far. Why change it? |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Nah, I'm good. You do you and I'll fact check. It's worked for thus far. Why change it? - tomburton99
Why do I bother.
Yes misread a stat, doesn't make you Lou Lamorello because you corrected me.
I intend to be me. Hope you get that call up to the Show one day little buddy
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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Sorry Jan, but the " where he was picked " thing only goes so far. IF he's Nyrs topped ranked goalie by. Head and shoulders, by Gorton's account, then you can't take issue with taking the " best" goalie in the draft at 39. Whether nor not Gorton and the Dino Duo is correct is another argument all together, and WE simply don't have their reasoning for their opinion of Olaf.
Gorton has been at the Helm for two drafts this far. Last year seems to have been a success. Too much too ask to give him a little credit? - rrentz
At the end of the day, time to just root for the players we drafted. Hope the goalie pick turns out to play s decade plus in New York.
And I actually like the defense options they acquired in the 3rd round and down. Don’t care about drafting for need in those rounds. Just get the best assets you can and the ones you think will have the most value as the years progress.
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climbdenali12
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Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24 Joined: 11.18.2008
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I just got home from a family friends graduation party...great time. They had a band, awesome food etc. There were also a bunch of friends of the grad. You know 17 and 18 year old kids. I saw the same kids friday night watching the draft. We have know clue what these kids become when the grow to be actual adults.
Did you see Jack Hughes when Quinn was selected. He a pimpled face high schooler who is a child. Yeah he is great at hockey and dominates his age group as well as some older levels.
I guess my point is that with the Internet and social media these kids get so much exposure both good and bad and while there are some good indicators on certain player, nothing is a given and we just need to wait and see with all of these picks. |
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Sorry Jan, but the " where he was picked " thing only goes so far. IF he's Nyrs topped ranked goalie by. Head and shoulders, by Gorton's account, then you can't take issue with taking the " best" goalie in the draft at 39. Whether nor not Gorton and the Dino Duo is correct is another argument all together, and WE simply don't have their reasoning for their opinion of Olaf.
Gorton has been at the Helm for two drafts this far. Last year seems to have been a success. Too much too ask to give him a little credit? - rrentz
I hope they are correct. Did note that they likely have forgotten more about hockey that I would ever know. My view and lots of experts differ from the path they took. Trust me, as a fan, I hope they are right. As someone who blogs about the team, much prefer when they are good, since it's easier to get motivated to write about that. |
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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Gonna make Burns look like he is skating in glue - mdw7413
By the time he makes it to the NHL, Burns will likely look like he's skating in glue. |
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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I hope they are correct. Did note that they likely have forgotten more about hockey that I would ever know. My view and lots of experts differ from the path they took. Trust me, as a fan, I hope they are right. As someone who blogs about the team, much prefer when they are good, since it's easier to get motivated to write about that. - airjan23
Definitely a tough season to write about, but at least it was interesting.
Thanks again. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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I hope they are correct. Did note that they likely have forgotten more about hockey that I would ever know. My view and lots of experts differ from the path they took. Trust me, as a fan, I hope they are right. As someone who blogs about the team, much prefer when they are good, since it's easier to get motivated to write about that. - airjan23
I gotcha |
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If we signed JVR and Nash(don’t want Nash want JVR) and had a team that looked something like this do you think we’d be competitive?
Kreider Zib Buch
JVR Chytil Zucc
Nash Hayes Andersson
Vesey Boo Fast
Skjei Pionk
Smith Shattenkirk
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Pete V
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Location: Troy, MI Joined: 05.16.2007
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If we signed JVR and Nash(don’t want Nash want JVR) and had a team that looked something like this do you think we’d be competitive?
Kreider Zib Buch
JVR Chytil Zucc
Nash Hayes Andersson
Vesey Boo Fast
Skjei Pionk
Smith Shattenkirk
Staal Deangelo - nyrangers9479
That team wouldn’t totally suck but it still probably wouldn’t be a true playoff contender. I just see them going after that secondary UFA market and not chasing any big fish.
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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That team wouldn’t totally suck but it still probably wouldn’t be a true playoff contender. I just see them going after that secondary UFA market and not chasing any big fish. - Pete V
I think you're right. With Gorton committing to a rebuild, I don't think he's going after the big FA's. As much as I like JVR, I think we're at least a year away from signing a big UFA. |
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