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Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
According to BSH, Wylie was one the biggest risers in Central Scouting’s rankings going from 179 to 71 in their final ranking report. He also played with Hart so the scouting staff may know a little more about him than others having watched Hart for the last few years.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
bighandsome91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shut up, nerd., CA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Jun 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
- twpguy


Traded 7 back to MTL.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
did the kings have to give any compensation the the devils?
- 2Real


I don’t believe so
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
- twpguy


Perhaps he did try to move but the offers weren’t good enough or teams weren’t willing to trade picks after the 1st. We’ll never know. Hextall has been willing to be aggressive moving up or back, so it’s not like he’s hesitant to do so.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
- twpguy

He was forced into that trade albeit because he chose to fly with an injury prone tandem. Who knew Mrazek would fall off a cliff?
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
Team negative in full effect. 😱
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
I still find it amazing...American kids and a few Swedes. Guess we know where the Flyer scouts are located.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'd also be interested in some of these long shots with great potential in the later rounds:
(I really like Oliver Okuliar)

Oliver Okuliar - lw
Patrick Khodorenko - c
Carl Jakobsson - lw/rw
Marcus Westfalt - c/lw
Lukas Dostal - g
Drew Deridder - g

- dubc55



Decent pick in the 7th.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
Perhaps he did try to move but the offers weren’t good enough or teams weren’t willing to trade picks after the 1st. We’ll never know. Hextall has been willing to be aggressive moving up or back, so it’s not like he’s hesitant to do so.
- Sublime55


I do believe Hexy was active in making a trade to improve club. Prices have been very high according to NHL Network. Hexy will not give up a young stud unless it is a great deal for the club. Still UFA and trades out there.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
I do believe Hexy was active in making a trade to improve club. Prices have been very high according to NHL Network. Hexy will not give up a young stud unless it is a great deal for the club. Still UFA and trades out there.
- cdearth23


Not much out there for UFA besides Tavares and I don't see any major long term signings happening for the Flyers. As long as the Flyers avoid all the 32+ year old UFAs, unless its a decent 1 year deal, I will be happy.

The players I see that may look interesting all have some major concerns:
Robin Lehner (G)
Calvin De Haan (D)
Matt Calvert (LW)
Martin Frk (RW)

The Flyers are going to have a huge amount of cap space next year if they don't do any major signing and their roster is basically set. I wonder if Hextall would help another team shed salary for a cost.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Not much out there for UFA besides Tavares and I don't see any major long term signings happening for the Flyers. As long as the Flyers avoid all the 32+ year old UFAs, unless its a decent 1 year deal, I will be happy.

The players I see that may look interesting all have some major concerns:
Robin Lehner (G)
Calvin De Haan (D)
Matt Calvert (LW)
Martin Frk (RW)

The Flyers are going to have a huge amount of cap space next year if they don't do any major signing and their roster is basically set. I wonder if Hextall would help another team shed salary for a cost.

- Glak18


I like Riley Nash or Bozak for the 3rd line center role. Both slightly younger than Fip and a little cheaper. Not sure if Bozak kills penalties.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Not much out there for UFA besides Tavares and I don't see any major long term signings happening for the Flyers. As long as the Flyers avoid all the 32+ year old UFAs, unless its a decent 1 year deal, I will be happy.

The players I see that may look interesting all have some major concerns:
Robin Lehner (G)
Calvin De Haan (D)
Matt Calvert (LW)
Martin Frk (RW)

The Flyers are going to have a huge amount of cap space next year if they don't do any major signing and their roster is basically set. I wonder if Hextall would help another team shed salary for a cost.

- Glak18


I like Riley Nash or Bozak for the 3rd line center role. Both slightly younger than Fip and a little cheaper. Not sure if Bozak kills penalties.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
Team negative in full effect. 😱
- Lawless18


Bottom line is this: if their two first rounders pan out, this will be a successful draft. If one of the their depth defenseman work out, it’ll be a bonus. They didn’t really reach for the two firsts if you go by Bill’s analysis and they supplemented their center depth in the system with one of the top wingers of this draft. The only downer out of this draft was not getting Berggren, but that’s not to say they didn’t try to get him.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
I like Riley Nash or Bozak for the 3rd line center role. Both slightly younger than Fip and a little cheaper. Not sure if Bozak kills penalties.
- cdearth23


Bozak would ask for 5-6M for how many years? NOPE

Nash is interesting, put up points with a good team, depends on asking price, but these are the signings you normally end up with the Dale Weises.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
- twpguy



What realistically would you have done differently?

I'm sure Hextall didnt think to try and trade for a 3rd rounder , it's not like he is a GM or anything.

Ignoring the fact that he obviously didnt think of trying to get a 3rd round pick you know it takes two teams to trade right?
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Jun 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
I disagree. They'll need a lot of that cap space to re-sign and extend their own quality young players. What you want is to have available cap space to use to make moves when you really identify what your holes are when you need to make those final moves to become a top team. Now is not the time for that.

What do you think the cost of adding Trouba, Parayko, Hamilton would be? I don't even believe teams are actively shopping those players.

- MJL



A bit later that same day ANNNNNNND Dougie is gone
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
1. Over 35 deal
2. $6.25 million / year
3. 3 Years
4. Multiple years removed from NHL

None of that makes any sense for the Flyers this year, next year or the ever.

- opeth_pa


It would’ve been ideal. 6.25 is nothing for him for 3 years. Still a very good player

Like others said. He prob never had the flyers on his radar.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 23 @ 4:11 PM ET


A bit later that same day ANNNNNNND Dougie is gone

- Lip_Out


And to another team once again with the same rumors of not being a good teammate, not someone I want on the Flyers anyway.
FlyerAdam30
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sewell, NJ
Joined: 04.15.2012

Jun 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
Not overly impressed with any Flyers pick honestly. Not sure why Hextall didnt trade for a 3rd round pick, considering he gave one away for a bad goalie.
- twpguy

Not sure the pressing need to make a deal just to get a 3rd back. It’s not like they haven’t been adding tons of prospects with multiple 1st rounders the last few years. They have an extra 3rd next for what it’s worth
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Why do that deal with Montreal? If they wanted a 7th today to draft shouldn’t we have gotten a 6th next year? Confused Bc there’s no guarantee the pick is going to be a higher one next year
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 4:22 PM ET
Not sure the pressing need to make a deal just to get a 3rd back. It’s not like they haven’t been adding tons of prospects with multiple 1st rounders the last few years. They have an extra 3rd next for what it’s worth
- FlyerAdam30


People just need to female dog. Our GM lands two firsts and people have a stick up their ass not having a 3rd
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 4:24 PM ET
Bozak would ask for 5-6M for how many years? NOPE

Nash is interesting, put up points with a good team, depends on asking price, but these are the signings you normally end up with the Dale Weises.

- Glak18


3 years? I have interest in bozak. We have a ton of cap space now and In the future. Even with signing our own players. Hexy is going to be making some signings this summer
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
Why do that deal with Montreal? If they wanted a 7th today to draft shouldn’t we have gotten a 6th next year? Why are we charity?
- Just5

6th round. 7th round. They're both massive craps shoots. I get what you're saying but who knows, maybe a move like that every once in a while keeps you in good terms with other GMs or something.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
People just need to female dog. Our GM lands two firsts and people have a stick up their ass not having a 3rd
- Just5

I love how for some people this time of year every 3rd is gonna turn into the next Ghost. And then at the trade deadline they're looking to give them away like candy for a rental.
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