Any player that can play NHL games, no matter their role, is a great pick.
- Glak18

That's how I look at it -- yeah, you want them to be the best players and show a lot of skill, but sometimes, offense just doesn't come but you still gotta find a way to see if they have any other metrics that can help you

For example: The Flyers need somebody, anybody, to come in here and help them kill penalties. If somebody told me that the Jay O'Brien kid would never score 10 goals but he would be the primary PKer on an unit that was Top 10 in the league for a decade, I'll take it

The fact that the Flyers have 2 NHL d-men who were drafted outside the first round is pretty awesome no matter how you slice it.
- MBFlyerfan

Well 4 if you include non-flyer drafted...

MacDonald a steal in the 6th.

Well 4 if you include non-flyer drafted...

MacDonald a steal in the 6th.
- Glak18

This is true.

Geez #112 is taking forever.

Not having a pick in the 3rd round is killing me
- dubc55

Hextall has a couple of 4 round picks I believe. He could package a couple to move up if he’s targeting someone.

Oh Bulat taken by the Kings...

Well 4 if you include non-flyer drafted...

MacDonald a steal in the 6th.
- Glak18

Exactly -- he's not my favorite, but he's an NHL player and he certainly has exceeded his draft position

Not having a pick in the 3rd round is killing me
- dubc55

OTOH, I have to take this gap between Flyers picks to do some errands or they will never get done.

Hextall has a couple of 4 round picks I believe. He could package a couple to move up if he’s targeting someone.
- Sublime55

Rnd 4 #112
Rnd 5 #127
Rnd 5 #143
Rnd 6 #174
Rnd 7 #190
Rnd 7 #205

Young assets are best used to replace roster players that can be moved for value. Only way I move young assets is for a proven NHL player after the team has won a cup or on the cusp of winning one. Flyers are neither and that one player probably won't put them there yet.
- Glak18

Flyers are not there yet. Agreed. I'm talking about a young, already established RD that will be here for our future cup runs. I don't believe we have that top potential RD in system. We missed out on Dobson and Bouchard. Tells me there may be a trade out there for a RD.

IMO next season is another building year. Get people in system that will contribute in 19-20 and beyond. Standing pat will not get us a playoff round win which we all agree is the natural progression for this group.

More disappointed with Hexy not making a move for 18-19 season. Seems like prices were too high to get into top ten. Would have thought Dobson or Bouchard made sense for us. I like our 1st round draft picks though. Our money will pay for a lot of beer in college. I hope there is something out there in UFA or trade to get our RD we covet. Also 3rd line center. Let's see what happens. I trust Hexy and his team.
- cdearth23

Never know what might happen but if you're expecting Hextall to make a big move this off season, I think you're going to be disappointed. They might get a lesser depth RH defenseman but quality RH defenseman are at a premium.

Flyers are not there yet. Agreed. I'm talking about a young, already established RD that will be here for our future cup runs. I don't believe we have that top potential RD in system. We missed out on Dobson and Bouchard. Tells me there may be a trade out there for a RD.

IMO next season is another building year. Get people in system that will contribute in 19-20 and beyond. Standing pat will not get us a playoff round win which we all agree is the natural progression for this group.
- cdearth23

Established RD who is still young...ok that would be Konecny, Rubstov and a draft pick.

Never know what might happen but if you're expecting Hextall to make a big move this off season, I think you're going to be disappointed. They might get a lesser depth RH defenseman but quality RH defenseman are at a premium.
- MJL

Agreed. What single acquisition could he make that would propel this team to the next level, and by that I mean an appearance in the Eastern Conference Finals?

Flyers are not there yet. Agreed. I'm talking about a young, already established RD that will be here for our future cup runs. I don't believe we have that top potential RD in system. We missed out on Dobson and Bouchard. Tells me there may be a trade out there for a RD.

IMO next season is another building year. Get people in system that will contribute in 19-20 and beyond. Standing pat will not get us a playoff round win which we all agree is the natural progression for this group.
- cdearth23

If Patrick, Konecny, Sanheim and lindblom can all take significant steps forward as players, standing pat could definitely get them a playoff round win.

Agreed. What single acquisition could he make that would propel this team to the next level, and by that I mean an appearance in the Eastern Conference Finals?
- Sinisalo4vr

With or without destroying the team?

Agreed. What single acquisition could he make that would propel this team to the next level, and by that I mean an appearance in the Eastern Conference Finals?
- Sinisalo4vr

I'm sure the Flyers will add some complementary pieces at a reasonable price, but what Hextall seems to be banking on is the continued development of guys like Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, etc.

Some health for his goaltenders would also be a plus.

Can't believe Marchenko went at 49. They were probably taking a D anyway but I would have loved for the Flyers to get him. I think he's gonna be a steal. Detroit and Isles made out like bandits. This appears to be a great draft. I don't think the Flyers did a great job thus far, not bad but looking at what some of the other teams picked up it's tuff. They should have found a way to get a pick or two early in the 2nd. I hope they really like O'Brien. I trust them but there where enough players there to risk trading down and getting him. On the other hand maybe the other teams were thinking the same way and valuing quantity in this draft. Damn I wish this was a dream and Detroit's picks were really ours.

Can't believe Marchenko went at 49. They were probably taking a D anyway but I would have loved for the Flyers to get him. I think he's gonna be a steal. Detroit and Isles made out like bandits. This appears to be a great draft. I don't think the Flyers did a great job thus far, not bad but looking at what some of the other teams picked up it's tuff. They should have found a way to get a pick or two early in the 2nd. I hope they really like O'Brien. I trust them but there where enough players there to risk trading down and getting him. On the other hand maybe the other teams were thinking the same way and valuing quantity in this draft. Damn I wish this was a dream and Detroit's picks were really ours.
- hockeyphan25

Teams can't worry about other teams, you can't draft everyone. Flyers need to pick what they can get and try to take the best they can.

EDIT: Detroit's picks could be ours...just have a couple losing seasons.

Can't believe Marchenko went at 49. They were probably taking a D anyway but I would have loved for the Flyers to get him. I think he's gonna be a steal. Detroit and Isles made out like bandits. This appears to be a great draft. I don't think the Flyers did a great job thus far, not bad but looking at what some of the other teams picked up it's tuff. They should have found a way to get a pick or two early in the 2nd. I hope they really like O'Brien. I trust them but there where enough players there to risk trading down and getting him. On the other hand maybe the other teams were thinking the same way and valuing quantity in this draft. Damn I wish this was a dream and Detroit's picks were really ours.
- hockeyphan25

I keep reading all of these should've's and it's ridiculous. First of all we don't know what Hextall tried to do, what other teams are willing to agree to and what the cost was. Far too many amateur GM's out there who think they really know these players or even know them even remotely near as well as NHL teams with full time scouts who have extensively scouted players.

Can't believe Marchenko went at 49. They were probably taking a D anyway but I would have loved for the Flyers to get him. I think he's gonna be a steal. Detroit and Isles made out like bandits. This appears to be a great draft. I don't think the Flyers did a great job thus far, not bad but looking at what some of the other teams picked up it's tuff. They should have found a way to get a pick or two early in the 2nd. I hope they really like O'Brien. I trust them but there where enough players there to risk trading down and getting him. On the other hand maybe the other teams were thinking the same way and valuing quantity in this draft. Damn I wish this was a dream and Detroit's picks were really ours.
- hockeyphan25

They had a plethora of picks to make those selections because they were bad and were subsequent sellers at the deadline. They got some luck with the way the draft has been going no doubt. Keep in mind the Flyers have three really solid drafts before this one getting guys in later rounds like Lindblom, Allison, Laczynski, Strome, Ratcliffe..et al. They also got extremely lucky to move up to 2 to get Patrick last year.

FWIW, I’m really happy getting Farabee and O’Brien and adding defensive depth in the second. The Flyers scouts get the benefit of the doubt until they don’t.

Never know what might happen but if you're expecting Hextall to make a big move this off season, I think you're going to be disappointed. They might get a lesser depth RH defenseman but quality RH defenseman are at a premium.
- MJL

Right. But that's my point. We have/had cap space, two 1st round picks, a few tradeable assets, (and more than a few dead weight players we would love to trade). If we were going to pounce it would be now. I'm not talking about trading valuable prospects for older rental type players but players that fill meed and will be with us for awhile. I'd love Trouba or Paryko added to our d corp. Myers is righty. Him and Gudas are only righties.

Right. But that's my point. We have/had cap space, two 1st round picks, a few tradeable assets, (and more than a few dead weight players we would love to trade). If we were going to pounce it would be now. I'm not talking about trading valuable prospects for older rental type players but players that fill meed and will be with us for awhile. I'd love Trouba or Paryko added to our d corp. Myers is righty. Him and Gudas are only righties.
- cdearth23

I disagree. They'll need a lot of that cap space to re-sign and extend their own quality young players. What you want is to have available cap space to use to make moves when you really identify what your holes are when you need to make those final moves to become a top team. Now is not the time for that.

What do you think the cost of adding Trouba, Parayko, Hamilton would be? I don't even believe teams are actively shopping those players.

Right. But that's my point. We have/had cap space, two 1st round picks, a few tradeable assets, (and more than a few dead weight players we would love to trade). If we were going to pounce it would be now. I'm not talking about trading valuable prospects for older rental type players but players that fill meed and will be with us for awhile. I'd love Trouba or Paryko added to our d corp. Myers is righty. Him and Gudas are only righties.
- cdearth23

Those players are expensive, you are not getting them for pieces the Flyers don't want anymore. You only get those players for players you don't want to give away.

I have been saying this a lot, but making a trade is not just Hextall's choice...other teams have to agree.

I'm sure the Flyers will add some complementary pieces at a reasonable price, but what Hextall seems to be banking on is the continued development of guys like Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, etc.

Some health for his goaltenders would also be a plus.
- johndewar

It's hard to accept but we are still building. Hart needs to be as good as advertised. If so, we will be in great shape. The kids will continue to develop. Can't wait.

Those players are expensive, you are not getting them for pieces the Flyers don't want anymore. You only get those players for players you don't want to give away.

I have been saying this a lot, but making a trade is not just Hextall's choice...other teams have to agree.
- Glak18

It's amazing. Hextall should force other teams to give up their coveted young players for assets and players we as fans are willing to give up.