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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 23 @ 2:52 PM ET

John Vogl
‏ @BuffaloVogl

The Sabres will not talk with John Tavares, Jason Botterill says.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Getting upset about a 6th round pick

f@cking amateur hour

Way to go full Gerbe on this one

- adambuffalo

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
We have all the defense.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
you are DEAD wrong


we are getting a worse pick in next years draft


we were dead last

take a f@cking flier on a goalie or a speedy winger, don't piss it away for a worse return

- homiedclown



You're really taking this hard.

Are you sure this isn't about ROR still being a Sabre?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
He thinks the 6th round next year is gonna be better, or the player he wanted was gone. Or he's gonna flip two 6ths for a 5th next year. Or he thinks he's gonna need it.

Who knows?

- jcragcrumple

no, it was stupid


if the leafs wanted the pick, they should have given us the 5th next year, or the 6th and 7th

all Botts got as a sabre is 31st place


it's stupid
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
You're really taking this hard.

Are you sure this isn't about ROR still being a Sabre?

- jcragcrumple


“Full Gerbe” was high quality.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
We have all the defense.
- RhinoFan



So much leverage
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:55 PM ET

Bob McKenzie
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9m9 minutes ago

FWIW, MTL has not traded Max Pacioretty.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
no, it was stupid


if the leafs wanted the pick, they should have given us the 5th next year, or the 6th and 7th

all Botts got as a sabre is 31st place


it's stupid

- homiedclown



He's the first GM in history to do that
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
John Vogl
‏ @BuffaloVogl

The Sabres will not talk with John Tavares, Jason Botterill says.

- Stripes77



Hey, Botterill, what the hell have you been doing lately?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Sorry, that’s just poor asset management. It’s like trading five bucks for three next year. Sure it’s not much, but what’s the point?
- gcomella34

I would say it’s more like trading $5 for $4.995. But it is bad asset management.

Are we going to ice an entire team of Scandinavia D in 3 years?
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
John Vogl
‏ @BuffaloVogl

The Sabres will not talk with John Tavares, Jason Botterill says.

- Stripes77


Wonder if it was Tavares telling them they wouldn’t be talking.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
You're really taking this hard.

Are you sure this isn't about ROR still being a Sabre?

- jcragcrumple

it's a stupid move

you are getting a worse pick a year later


you did the team IN YOUR DIVISION a favor



trust me, if the bills did this with the first 6th rd pick in the draft, and traded it to the patriots for their 6th rd pick the following year

the buffalo news would be ripping the hell out of the bills
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
I would say it’s more like trading $5 for $4.995. But it is bad asset management.

Are we going to ice an entire team of Scandinavia D in 3 years?

- SabresFaninIndiana



Murray had family and friends policy as well...
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Sorry, that’s just poor asset management. It’s like trading five bucks for three next year. Sure it’s not much, but what’s the point?
- gcomella34


Its closer to 4.75 for 5 seeing as that picks success rate in either draft is so low. He got worse value, it was in division as well, so it wasn't good.


Still, its a 6th. Teams may not wanted to trade next years for this years pick. Nine times out of ten neither player is going to be anything.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Sorry, that’s just poor asset management. It’s like trading five bucks for three next year. Sure it’s not much, but what’s the point?
- gcomella34

pretty much


and we were the worst team in the nhl

take a flier on a goalie or a speedy winger
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
John Vogl
‏ @BuffaloVogl

The Sabres will not talk with John Tavares, Jason Botterill says.

- Stripes77

I guess JB plans on continuing to celebrate drafting Dahlin. His job is over for the year.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
it's a stupid move

you are getting a worse pick a year later


you did the team IN YOUR DIVISION a favor



trust me, if the bills did this with the first 6th rd pick in the draft, and traded it to the patriots for their 6th rd pick the following year

the buffalo news would be ripping the hell out of the bills

- homiedclown


If the NFL had 14 rounds, and they did this in the 12th, it would be a curiosity, which is what this is. It's an odd move, but not a reason to get your blood pressure up. Maybe he wants to trade 2 6ths for a 5th next year?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
Its closer to 4.75 for 5 seeing as that picks success rate in either draft is so low. He got worse value, it was in division as well, so it wasn't good.


Still, its a 6th. Teams may not wanted to trade next years for this years pick. Nine times out of ten neither player is going to be anything.

- RhinoFan

it's the first pick this year for a middle to late 6th next year


pathetic
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
I would say it’s more like trading $5 for $4.995. But it is bad asset management.

Are we going to ice an entire team of Scandinavia D in 3 years?

- SabresFaninIndiana


A current asset is never equivalent to a similarly priced asset in the future. It always costs you to get access to an asset now when paying with a future asset. You’re purchasing the time value of the asset. Granted a sixth isn’t huge, as you stated, but it is bigger than you indicated. When you make a move like that you NEVER go backwards or equal in asset value, always more. If you borrow 5 bucks from the bank they don’t have you pay back 4.99.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
I guess JB plans on continuing to celebrate drafting Dahlin. His job is over for the year.
- PrinceChill



O'Reilly gets moved in July

Pacorietty ends up a Sabre but not in the deal for ROR

ROR goes to the blues

My guess
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
Hey, Botterill, what the hell have you been doing lately?
- sskkoo1

Deciding who they were gonna by to take 1st.

It was a tough call. It’s all they could focus on.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
If the NFL had 14 rounds, and they did this in the 12th, it would be a curiosity, which is what this is. It's an odd move, but not a reason to get your blood pressure up. Maybe he wants to trade 2 6ths for a 5th next year?
- jcragcrumple



Or, he should have said, "Hey, Toronto, give us your 5th next year for our 1st pick in the 6th this year?" That would have been a fair trade off.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
it's the first pick this year for a middle to late 6th next year


pathetic

- homiedclown


Gerbe's about to tell you to relax
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Deciding who they were gonna by to take 1st.

It was a tough call. It’s all they could focus on.

- ImThatGuy



I guess that 1 scout from Carolina talking up Svech really got in everyone's head.
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