I’d have to compare that list to every other teams goalie picks in the same time frame to make a determination on managements goalie drafting prowess. We have hank, shestyorkin looks to be the real deal, one or two others are still in development. Goalies are a total crapshoot. All that being said, I’m not using this argument to justify the 2nd round pick today
- picklerick

Time is still on their side for the likes of Shesterkin, Huska and Wall.

Oh I got it....Never draft a goalie. I betcha that out of every 10 goalies drafted by ANY team over the years that maybe 1 or 2 have made it to NHL.
- rrentz

Probably should draft a goalie that has ranks in the 90's 100's and 200's at 39th overall.

Nope, no relation. I'd rather be a glass half full kinda of guy then a the opposite. Kind of like to focus on positive, especially when it has to do w/ the NYR, seeing that it's , you know, ENTERTAINMENT, and not life and death.


IT will all work out my man...NYR prospect pool is better today than it has been in years. Why should I act like I have sand in my vagiiina and whine about another prospect that might/might not be better than the picks that were chosen?
- rrentz

Fair enough I try and be positive too but people are aloud to have their opinion and voice it on here positive or negative I mean that's what this thread is for I wish I could be as positive as you when it comes to this team but we've seen way too many failures in the draft and overall with this team through out the yrs. We will see how it plays out over the next few yrs I hope some of these picks become really good players and bring the cup back home.

Time is still on their side for the likes of Shesterkin, Huska and Wall.
- tomburton99

Wait a minute..You said that NYR sucks at drafting goalies, but along w/ Hank, and Montoya (good career as dependable goalie) Shesterkin, and Huska have a chance too!? Sounds like good picks to me. Along w/ Georgiev and this new pick, NYR has given themselves an excellent goalie prospect pool.

If NYR has 3 or 4 goalies that become NHL ready than that gives them a choice of who to keep or trade for players, prospects and future draft picks. Win/Win

Fair enough I try and be positive too but people are aloud to have their opinion and voice it on here positive or negative I mean that's what this thread is for I wish I could be as positive as you when it comes to this team but we've seen way too many failures in the draft and overall with this team through out the yrs. We will see how it plays out over the next few yrs I hope some of these picks become really good players and bring the cup back home.
- dman78

What has Gorton done to lose faith?

I mean he didnt drraft Jessimen...did he?

Wait a minute..You said that NYR sucks at drafting goalies, but along w/ Hank, and Montoya (good career as dependable goalie) Shesterkin, and Huska have a chance too!? Sounds like good picks to me. Along w/ Georgiev and this new pick, NYR has given themselves an excellent goalie prospect pool.
- rrentz

When do we get a dam shoot first goal scorer that a true 1st line star player not a nice 2nd or 3rd line er who thinks pass 1st. That's what I want to know.

Wait a minute..You said that NYR sucks at drafting goalies, but along w/ Hank, and Montoya (good career as dependable goalie) Shesterkin, and Huska have a chance too!? Sounds like good picks to me. Along w/ Georgiev and this new pick, NYR has given themselves an excellent goalie prospect pool.
- rrentz

Montoya good dependable goalie...has a career .908 ssave percentage. y u no internet so gud?

When do we get a dam shoot first goal scorer that a true 1st line star player not a nice 2nd or 3rd line er who thinks pass 1st. That's what I want to know.
- dman78

#9 Kratsov is just that buddy

Thought (because today was underwhelming and I had some scotch), what do the avs need? Any way to pry away that potential jack Hughes Ottawa gift pick from them?

Thought (because today was underwhelming and I had some scotch), what do the avs need? Any way to pry away that potential jack Hughes Ottawa gift pick away from them?
- picklerick

For Brady Skjei, Filip Chytil and the Rangers 1st round pick, maybe.

For Brady Skjei, Filip Chytil and the Rangers 1st round pick, maybe.
- tomburton99

Mehhhhhhhhhhhh

Montoya good dependable goalie...has a career .908 ssave percentage. y u no internet so gud?
- tomburton99

Are you kidding me!? Montoya has been a steady NHL goalie/backup for many years! Any sane person would consider him a successful NHL goalie. 99% of goalies drafted don't get to where he's gotten...You do understand that a good draft pick doesn't mean he has to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

I will admit I hope the goalie does become a Hall of Famer though. That be nice

Are you kidding me!? Montoya has been a steady NHL goalie/backup for many years! Any sane person would consider him a successful NHL goalie. 99% of goalies drafted don't get to where he's gotten...You do understand that a good draft pick doesn't mean he has to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

I will admit I hope the goalie does become a Hall of Famer though. That be nice
- rrentz

Montoya has 67 wins out of the 136 games he's started. Good for a .49 win percentage. Please keep going.

Montoya has 67 wins out of the 136 games he's started. Good for a .49 win percentage. Please keep going.
- tomburton99

Not saying he’s a good goalie but I’m pretty sure only two of those teams made the playoffs

Also, it’s pretty damn depressing that this is the topic of conversation on draft weekend

Catching up on the draft and just read all 1300+ comments. Plan is to have a blog up sometime tomorrow. Rebuild sure looks to be in full effect in terms of timeframe associated with that plan.

I posted it during the season but think it’s appropriate here. We do a terrible job drafting after the 1st round, one of the lowest success rates in the entire league. After this weekend the problem seems pretty clear, we go off the board, and then sit here and justify it by saying that’s y we have scouts etc etc. No. They’ve been bad for years now drafting past the 1st round and it’s bc they think they’re smarter than everyone else in the league.

Going back to 2009 the NYR have drafted 3 players past the 1st round that have played over 100 NHL games. Fast Buchnevich and Duclair.

I'm not going to debate whether or not the goalie the Rangers goalie was the best possible goalie to take when they did, I believe them when they say they think he was best goalie of the draft

I just hate taking a goddamn goalie, period

whatever though, this draft is about Kravtsov, Miller and Lundkvist and I am excited about them and maybe a couple of these later round defensemen will eventually pan out

Larry Brooks talking about a chance of Kravtsov coming over this year like Chytil, hope so.

I posted it during the season but think it’s appropriate here. We do a terrible job drafting after the 1st round, one of the lowest success rates in the entire league. After this weekend the problem seems pretty clear, we go off the board, and then sit here and justify it by saying that’s y we have scouts etc etc. No. They’ve been bad for years now drafting past the 1st round and it’s bc they think they’re smarter than everyone else in the league.

Going back to 2009 the NYR have drafted 3 players past the 1st round that have played over 100 NHL games. Fast Buchnevich and Duclair.
- nyrangers9479

As per your last paragraph, there is indeed that issue after the first round for the past 10 years. But in 2nd or later Rounds in just the prior 9 seasons dating back to when Hank and Dom. Moore were both drafted in 2000, the Rangers had 19 players (as opposed to just 3) that played at least 100 NHL games, who were drafted after Round One.

Of those 19 players, 11 played at least 100 or more games with the Rangers. Those 11 in draft year order from 2000 to 2008 are:
Hank, Moore, Tjutin, Hollweg, Prucha, Dawes, Dubinsky, Callahan, Anisimov, Hagelin, and Stepan.
Unfortunately, Michael Sauer fell short by 2 games, in having his career end as a result of that Dion Phaneuf head shot at 98 games played all for the Rangers. Otherwise, it would have been 20 players, and 12 doing so with the Rangers drafted after Round One in the prior 9 drafts from 2000 to 2008.

So there is a glaring difference there having to do with both management and scouting in causing the past 10 years' draft issues after the 1st Round, along with experiencing some very questionable 1st Round selections.

Gorton:

On Kravtsov having the option to buy out his final KHL year, "those contracts are hard to read but I would say that the option is there. He wants to be here sooner than later so I think that will help us."

Can Kravtsov go to Hartford, "yea, similar to Chytil."

Gorton:

On Kravtsov having the option to buy out his final KHL year, "those contracts are hard to read but I would say that the option is there. He wants to be here sooner than later so I think that will help us."

Can Kravtsov go to Hartford, "yea, similar to Chytil."
- jimbro83

Now we really know why the word, "TANK", doesn't belong in both, the Rangers and their fans' vocabulary.
God for bid had we had the 1st overall pick, and did not select Dahlin, what this comments section would have then looked like.
I just hope they can bring Kravstov here to the AHL earlier, and have him work wonders to save this draft, on top of selecting Miller who was also a good pick, despite some wanting someone else at #22. I also hope that Lindkvist can learn how to position himself better defensively, with that being his supposed drawback. His offensive game skills and ability will help make up in part for that.

Rangers did also sign Lindqvist and Meskanen after the season, so at least they should help with the lack of forward depth

but man, talk about a European flavor around here

Gorton speaks about how that's just the way it went, always take the best player available on our list, it just worked out that when it came to our turn to pick it was a European

bullpoop brah

Rangers did also sign Lindqvist and Meskanen after the season, so at least they should help with the lack of forward depth

but man, talk about a European flavor around here

Gorton speaks about how that's just the way it went, always take the best player available on our list, it just worked out that when it came to our turn to pick it was a European

bullpoop brah
- jimbro83

So much for Quinn's "Team Rangers U.S.A."!

So much for Quinn's "Team Rangers U.S.A."!
- RangerSaver

you know if you remember, when Herb Brooks came in he brought a lot of European flavor to the team, Mikko Leinonen, Reijo Ruotsalainen, Kent-Erik Andersson, Peter Sundstrom to name several, along with a lot of Americans like Pavelich, Mclanahan, Silk

could be that same kind of thing going on here for awhile, a college coach again, what's old is new again

They weren't active player trade wise as we expected to see, so do you feel that this week they will be just that, Jim, as well as being active in the free agent market? I feel they will be in on both. Also, a year ago we felt that Staal could be a buyout candidate this summer, if he did not approve of a trade. Given the February sell off, and the situation now, including with their overload of young d'men, will they try to trade as much of Staal's contract as possible, and if not able with his approval, then buy him out, given the new $79.5M higher cap, and their already extra created cap space?
Or do they keep Staal as a veteran d'man to mentor the younger d'men, and be a voice leader for all in the locker room?

They weren't active player trade wise as we expected to see, so do you feel that this week they will be just that, Jim, as well as being active in the free agent market? I feel they will be in on both. Also, a year ago we felt that Staal could be a buyout candidate this summer, if he did not approve of a trade. Given the February sell off, and the situation now, including with their overload of young d'men, will they try to trade as much of Staal's contract as possible, and if not able with his approval, then buy him out, given the new $79.5M higher cap, and their already extra created cap space?
Or do they keep Staal as a veteran d'man to mentor the younger d'men, and be a voice leader for all in the locker room?
- RangerSaver

I don't know, there was recently a question about whether Staal's contract turns into a partial NTC July 1st or remains a NMC

capfriendly says it remains a NMC and if they aren't buying him out, which appears very unlikely, I say he is still here and that's the plan, for him to be a mentor